Suppressors SilencerShop 7.62 QD shoot off

[godofthunder]

I saw this video the other day and thought it may be of interest to some people here. They compare the most popular QD 7.62 cans on .308, 300 BO, and 5.56. I wish they added the 6.8 SPC in there but this is a good video anyways. Starting to think I should have gone with a specwar, but I think I'll be happy with the shorter length of the YHM phantom LT. This should answer some questions for people though!

 

[Charger442]

Man, i love my 30BA.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Man, i love my 30BA.

I agree. I also really like my 30BAS.

The SPECWAR seem like a great can for the money. If i was going to buy another can for dedicated semi 7.62 use, I would strongly consider SWR's suppressor.

 

[Pusher591]

What's the deal with not posting SF results?

 

[Helidriver]

Wow, you can really hear the tuning fork "ting" on that AAC flash hider.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Wow, you can really hear the tuning fork "ting" on that AAC flash hider.

Yep. I have an AAC M4 2000 and it rings pretty bad when shooting. It is really annoying if you use electronic muffs when shooting.

I hate the mounting system on the AAC. It is one of my few firearm related purchases that I regret.

 

[PRDRIVER]

What's the deal with not posting SF results?

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[317millhand]

The new Breakout compensator works much better than the blackout flash hiders for the AAC cans. No more ringing

 

[PRDRIVER]

The new Breakout compensator works much better than the blackout flash hiders for the AAC cans. No more ringing

The ringing is annoying. My main issue is with the 51 tooth mount. Out of 11 mounts, I found one that locks up solid. Other mounts that I tried, would loosen up to the first locking tooth after being tight and my 3/4 MOA AR became a 4 to 5 MOA gun. The accuracy was downright terrible.

I put my one good mount on my SBR and dedicated the M4 2000 to use on that rifle.

 

[Blaster7Romeo]

What's the deal with not posting SF results?

Probably because it was loud as hell! the one i have heard was not impressed with one bit.. it was louder than the surefire SS and AAC sdn6 to my ear.. buy a long way.. and it was on a gun that should even make it quieter.. But Surefire has never calmed to be the quietest can..

 

[godofthunder]

What's the deal with not posting SF results?

I read that they did test it but it was so bad that they thought there actually was something wrong with it, so they didn't want to post it and were going to work with SF to see if something was actually wrong.

 

[Paddywagon]

Bought a Specwar 7.62 myself about a month ago. one of these videos was what actually wound up sealing the deal for me after I had been doing quite a bit of research prior to it. Wound up getting an Octane 45 at the same time.

 

[mike in pa]

Yep. I have an AAC M4 2000 and it rings pretty bad when shooting. It is really annoying if you use electronic muffs when shooting.

I hate the mounting system on the AAC. It is one of my few firearm related purchases that I regret.

There are many others that have the same feeling.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Companies like surefire, silencerco, and aac have come out with some innovative designs, but their real strength lies in the marketing of their products. They are very good at making consumers feel that they need the certain innovations that they are marketing or the suppressor they purchase will be a waste of money, a $200 tax stamp, and a year of waiting.

Truth be told, there are some fantastic suppressors built by companies that don't have a huge marketing budget, that will out perform the hyper marketed suppressors any day of the week and will save you a good chunk of change too.

 

[PRDRIVER]

I read that they did test it but it was so bad that they thought there actually was something wrong with it, so they didn't want to post it and were going to work with SF to see if something was actually wrong.

If that is true, I would like to know what could be so wrong with it that could give it such poor results. This could be a huge black eye for Surefire. They either have a terrible performing suppressor, or their quality control is so bad that they produced a suppressor with big enough issues that a company testing the surefire suppressor would not even post the results.

 

[rancilio]

And based on that video, I thought that the YHM did not fare too well. How far off could the SF be?

 

[MLC]

Does anyone know how the SWR Omega/Omega 30 compares to the Specwar?
I haven't shot mine on an AR10 but it's great on my 308 bolt gun, 20" 223AI and a little louder on my 16" AR.
Stupid quiet on a 300BLK TC.

 

[ridenrunwv]

I've been debating on the Thunderbeast or Specwar. I'm curious how comparable the Specwar and 30BA/30P1 are in accuracy and also sound reduction. Too bad they didn't have a 30BA in the comparison.

 

[Charger442]

And based on that video, I thought that the YHM did not fare too well. How far off could the SF be?

i would guess its not a great sales tactic for Silencer Shop (and SF) to post up that a suppressor that cost more than twice what a YHM costs with proprietary brakes that take specific shoulder machining on the barrel actually suppress worse than the aforementioned YHM, which finished last in that comparison in decibel reduction.

 

[NWhairlessyeti]

I've been debating on the Thunderbeast or Specwar. I'm curious how comparable the Specwar and 30BA/30P1 are in accuracy and also sound reduction. Too bad they didn't have a 30BA in the comparison.

I am in the same boat. I have been leaning toward the ThunderBeast but would not mind taking a look at the Specwar.

Any input from either brand users?

 

[ridenrunwv]

I'm also leaning towards Thunderbeast. Seems like Thunderbeast has the accuracy and weight advantage but Specwar definitely would handle high rates of fire better and possibly be quieter. Just wish I knew more on the two but never seem to see them directly compared.

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[Renegade]

Does anyone know how the SWR Omega/Omega 30 compares to the Specwar?

I measured it at 145 a few years ago.

 

[1slow01z71]

Im really disappointed in how the yhm ti performed. Wish the specwar would've come out a little earlier before I bought the phantom.

 

[drjjl]

Was also disappointed that they showed the surefire in the intro but didn't post the testing of it in the video. Did they just not test it? You'd think if they did test it, but didn't want to show the results they would have just edited or redid the intro so as not to imply that it was included in the test..

 

[1slow01z71]

I read that they did test it but it was so bad that they thought there actually was something wrong with it, so they didn't want to post it and were going to work with SF to see if something was actually wrong.

Thats what Dave told me this morning. I will be picking up a specwar after seeing that video.

 

[Delta4-3]

With the exception of some of the newer SF cans, they are some of the loudest cans ive heard since the 80's.

 

[ccoker]

I went out with Levi 2 weeks ago and we did some more testing.
We also did a POI shot test between the Templar Tactical Archangel, Thunderbeast 30-p1 and Griffen Arnament can.

Guess which came out on top?
Will be processing vids soon.

Plan to do more testing including a 300 BO and 6.8 test.

 

[drjjl]

I think they updated the video description. It now says: "We did shoot the SOCOM 762 as well; but, there turned out being an issue with the suppressor, so those results aren't included in this video."

I'd like to see them update the video to include the socom.

 

[1slow01z71]

I went out with Levi 2 weeks ago and we did some more testing.
We also did a POI shot test between the Templar Tactical Archangel, Thunderbeast 30-p1 and Griffen Arnament can.

Guess which came out on top?
Will be processing vids soon.

Plan to do more testing including a 300 BO and 6.8 test.

Really wish yall would've posted that video a couple weeks ago. Literally lasy week I bought a griffin armament recce 7 and phs 338 so I could be sure I made the right choice.

 

[PRDRIVER]

I've been debating on the Thunderbeast or Specwar. I'm curious how comparable the Specwar and 30BA/30P1 are in accuracy and also sound reduction. Too bad they didn't have a 30BA in the comparison.

I would buy a Specwar if you are going to run it hard on a .308 semi auto. If you are looking for a lighter weight precision type can, i would go with a 30BA all day long. I have a 30BA and love it.

 

[ridenrunwv]

I have always been curious to just what extent is considered running it too hard with a titanium can and how much less worry is it when running hard with 556 or 300 Blackout subs for example.

 

[1slow01z71]

Since 300blk uses a relatively small charge of pistol powder it really doesnt heat up much. Not much heat makes it past the gas block compared to other calibers. Ive dumped a 30rd mag fairly quick when shooting at rabbits with my 110 vmax load and the can was about as hot as a couple rounds of 223 through it. I wouldnt be worried about 300blk through a ti can unless you were running full auto belt fed. Thats just my unedeucated opinion with owning a ti phantom and a 16" 300blk. If you had an sbr 300blk you moght want to be a bit more cautious but I cant see it being too bad.

 

[ridenrunwv]

300 Blackout is sounding better and better. I knew it was supposed to be good with shooting suppressed subsonic rounds but if even standard velocity won't heat a titanium can bad that's another awesome plus. What's cost difference in reloading for it vs 223?

 

[1slow01z71]

Only cost difference is the bullet. Theres cheap (speer tnt) to expensive (barnes blacktip). I enjoy the heck out of mine but it is definitely a reloaders cartridge. Its expensive from the store and its not very accurate. Reloading is a fourth to sixth of store bought cost and my group sizes went from 2.5moa to some under moa.

 

[NWhairlessyeti]

Does anyone know what the POI shift looks like with the SpecWar? Comparable with the ThunderBeast? I would not mind having an all around suppressor though I do have a YHM .556 that I am not thoroughly impressed with. I would not mind running it on sub calibers but I am leaning more towards a direct thread that I can run on my .308, .300WM and 7mm.
Suggestions?

 

[Blaster7Romeo]

With the exception of some of the newer SF cans, they are some of the loudest cans ive heard since the 80's.

we shot a 762 Socom RC on a 20in bolt gun and it was louder than the 16in gas gun with a 762 SS and the Socom was defiantly louder! the sad thing is i think they have the best mount for precision rifle use..

 

[1slow01z71]

we shot a 762 Socom RC on a 20in bolt gun and it was louder than the 16in gas gun with a 762 SS and the Socom was defiantly louder! the sad thing is i think they have the best mount for precision rifle use..

Check out the griffin armament taper mount. Its nice, and theyre half the price of surefire.

 

[VTSEAL]

The real shame is there is no industry standard quick detach system. That would significantly reduce the switching penalty and allow us to have the right product for the right situation, AND interchangeability.

 

[1slow01z71]

Be glad the industry hasn't adopted a standard. AAC were one of the main QD leaders a couple years ago when the can industry exploded so their shitty 51T design could've been adopted.

 

[teskymo]

Companies like surefire, silencerco, and aac have come out with some innovative designs, but their real strength lies in the marketing of their products. They are very good at making consumers feel that they need the certain innovations that they are marketing or the suppressor they purchase will be a waste of money, a $200 tax stamp, and a year of waiting.

Truth be told, there are some fantastic suppressors built by companies that don't have a huge marketing budget, that will out perform the hyper marketed suppressors any day of the week and will save you a good chunk of change too.

Such as?????

 

[PRDRIVER]

Such as?????

Allen Engineering

I would put their AEM5 suppressor up against offering from Gemtech, AAC, Silencerco, YHM, or Surefire. I will guarantee no brake/flash hider attachable .223 suppressor from any of those 5 companies will meter better or sound better to your ear than the AEM5 on an AR platform. Their AE22 offering is even quieter though it is hard to differentiate between the two an a semi auto platform.

 

[Naish]

Is there any other test out there with a SF 762 Socom that shows how loud it is?

 

[300LW]

I'd like to see Allen Engineering included in the testing. I suspect Ron would provide a can if asked.

 

[1slow01z71]

Theres hardly any info on allen engineering out there. Anybody have a link to a review of his cans?

 

[ridenrunwv]

Seen so many good things on Ops Inc and now Allen Engineering that I really wish they were included in some tests like this. Silencershop doesn't sell them though so I would say it is unlikely they would be testing and potentially promoting them if the results are favorable.

 

[Cobracutter]

Becuase some companies do not spend half their profits/budgets on marketing..................

They just made good products, and good prices and let them sell themselves. They might not sell as many to the mouthbreathers but they build up a solid reputation for experinced users.

There are a bunch of small can manufatures out there that make great products that exceed the performance and design of the big names, while being at a lower price point.

When you buy AAC, Surefire, ect.... a large chunk of the price is marketing reimbursables.

 

[LanceS4803]

Im really disappointed in how the yhm ti performed. Wish the specwar would've come out a little earlier before I bought the phantom.

And, you get to pay a premium for reduced performance, albeit at lighter weight. I was surprised.

 

[BurnOut]

Does anyone know where the Saker 762 would fit in, regarding sound suppression? I'm guessing that it would be similar to the SDN-6 due to the similarity in overall size/weight, but as always, I retain the right to be wrong.

I'm wondering because I already have an SDN-6, and have been thinking of getting another QD .30 cal can. I have been leaning towards the Saker 762 but after watching the video, the Specwar is giving me a lot to think about. Decisions, decisions....

 

[Kamkaze]

Allen Engineering

I would put their AEM5 suppressor up against offering from Gemtech, AAC, Silencerco, YHM, or Surefire. I will guarantee no brake/flash hider attachable .223 suppressor from any of those 5 companies will meter better or sound better to your ear than the AEM5 on an AR platform. Their AE22 offering is even quieter though it is hard to differentiate between the two an a semi auto platform.

I believe you as I am sure you know you stuff, I would love to see the Allen suppressor go head to head with the specwar as from what I have seen tested it is the quietest suppressor on an AR. I am about to go look up the Allen stuff.

 

[<Flatliner>]

While I haven't shot the SF 7.62 Socom. I have shot the 6.8 socom. I've also shot it without hearing protection. While it isn't the quietest can I've ever heard I think the benefit's outweigh the slight lower decibel reduction. For starters the SF can is light. I don't know what it's made out of but I assume iconel or some similar alloy because they claim it's full auto rated. The trend lately for suppressors is titanium. I even see people who run them on gas guns. These people running titanium cans on semi's and sbr's are pushing the limits of the metals physical resistance to heat. For a carbine, I think the SF is solid choice for a bullet proof, battle ready can that you can attach and run as hard as you would want too.