Slugging barrels......Don't F'in do things like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Frank Green]

The owner of the rifle felt it wasn’t shooting good enough. He thinks the steel isn’t good. So, he decided to make his own bushing and put it on a cleaning rod and push it down the bore to check the barrel. He feels there are tight spots in it. I’ll guarantee you that he scored the tops of the lands. Barrel is guaranteed junk now.
Any lint, dirt, carbon particles etc.... will get forced between the slug and the bore and your going to do damage. Worse yet.... a steel bushing was made and to what spec it was made to and your pushing it down the bore. Nothing but a disaster here.

Nothing in his email about how he’s cleaning it, how many rounds on it… how it’s shooting etc… not to mention what the diameter/spec he made his custom steel bushing to in order to check the bore.

Yes.... No warranty being given.

I'm refraining from using very choice words right now!

 

[Frank Green]

I can't get the video to attach and don't know why. The video shows him pushing it down the bore.

 

[MK20]

This is why God made lead.

 

[Rob01]

You can’t fix stupid but you can deny its warranty. I am sure he laps his rings too. lol

 

[DownhillFromHere]

In 60+ years of shooting shotgun, rifle and handgun and reloading for all of them starting at age 14, I've learned a little. And the more I learn the more I understand how much more there is to know.

And one of the things of which I am sure is that Homo sapiens as a species hasn't really evolved much in 5000 years.

 

[Frank Green]

This is why God made lead.

There are three guys and are top smiths...... and I'll say these three guys will tell you when they have used a lead slug.... they can get close to what they think the bore size is....and they are honest and will say.... it's subjective at best.

 

[Makinchips208]

All he has to do is get some of that abrasive paste and polish the scratches out. Then the barrel is better than new!

 

[Threadcutter308]

I bet he owns a borescope........

 

[XP1K]

All he has to do is get some of that abrasive paste and polish the scratches out. Then the barrel is better than new!

Thoroclean for the win!

 

[Rob01]

I bet he owns a borescope........

I’d put money on that!

 

[Jwoo]

Post like this make the Hide one of the best platforms for those seeking knowledge on all thing regarding rifle precision!

 

[stanley_white]

The owner of the rifle felt it wasn’t shooting good enough. He thinks the steel isn’t good. So, he decided to make his own bushing and put it on a cleaning rod and push it down the bore to check the barrel. He feels there are tight spots in it. I’ll guarantee you that he scored the tops of the lands. Barrel is guaranteed junk now.
Any lint, dirt, carbon particles etc.... will get forced between the slug and the bore and your going to do damage. Worse yet.... a steel bushing was made and to what spec it was made to and your pushing it down the bore. Nothing but a disaster here.

Nothing in his email about how he’s cleaning it, how many rounds on it… how it’s shooting etc… not to mention what the diameter/spec he made his custom steel bushing to in order to check the bore.

Yes.... No warranty being given.

I'm refraining from using very choice words right now!

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Was he a prior BPCR shooter?

-Stan

 

[918v]

Nothing in his email about how he’s cleaning it, how many rounds on it… how it’s shooting etc…

Tell him to get with a SH member with a post count exceeding 15k to properly evaluate the condition of the bore.

 

[Im2bent]

He should have applied a polishing compound to his slug and lapped his barrel to a very consistent bore diameter. In fact if he removed those pesky lands he could front load that baby with some fff with a primed empty case and voila. He could hunt primitive rifle season.

 

[Modoc]

I am truly amazed.

I don’t know of a single BPCR shooter who would allow any steel touch the inside of their barrels.

 

[TheJeanyus]

All he has to do is get some of that abrasive paste and polish the scratches out. Then the barrel is better than new!

Bronze brush, cleaning rod chucked up in a drill...good as new in no time.

 

[hafejd30]

I’m going to check my AI Bartlein barrels right now

Cleaning rod
Steel bushing
Spit
Hammer for the tight spots

 

[DIBBS]

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[diggler1833]

I bet his 5-R lands are even more radius'd now. You could call it a 5R2 or 5RR.

 

[MK20]

He is putting the R in 5r

 

[ShtrRdy]

Yikes!!! Would you mind posting a few pictures of damaged spots?

 

[Frank Green]

Was he a prior BPCR shooter?

-Stan

Not that I know of. It's on a F class gun.

 

[Frank Green]

He is putting the R in 5r

More like the "G" instead of R.

G stands for gouges!

 

[Frank Green]

I’d put money on that!

I would most likely lose that bet!

 

[Frank Green]

Yikes!!! Would you mind posting a few pictures of damaged spots?

Don't have the barrel in hand and he didn't send any pic's of the bore if he took any.

Wish I could post the video of him pushing the rod down the bore!

I told him flat out... not going to warranty it.

 

[Baron23]

Not that I know of. It's on a F class gun.

He's an F class shooter and doesn't know better. Wow.....I tend to F class is generally fairly experienced shooters and not brand new riflemen. Incredible.

 

[roostercogburn98]

I bet he owns a borescope........

Stop it

 

[MO Fugga]

He can become real good at grouping snakeshot.

 

[OkieMike]

He's an F class shooter and doesn't know better. Wow.....I tend to F class is generally fairly experienced shooters and not brand new riflemen. Incredible.

Which begs the question... If he's new, did a fellow "experienced" shooter suggest he try this?

Mike

 

[Threadcutter308]

Stop it

Yer just eggin' me on.......

 

[lash]

I’m still trying to to figure out what he thought he was accomplishing.

 

[lash]

Yer just eggin' me on.......

Stop…don’t, stop…don’t stop.

 

[OkieMike]

I’m still trying to to figure out what he thought he was accomplishing.

Raising Frank's blood pressure?

Mike

 

[supercorndogs]

I do that to every Savage and ballistic advantage barrel I get and they all shoot OK fer me.

 

[bigbuckslayer3]

A steel bushing, hell just run a length of all thread thru it.

 

[Mike Casselton]

A steel bushing, hell just run a length of all thread thru it.

Rebar is cheaper

 

[oldrifleman]

I am surprised he didn't just make up a matching broach to "staighten" out the rifling

 

[MK20]

You can get away with doing some really weird stuff to guns if you really know what you are doing, but you have to really know your stuff and you can't go bitching about warranty after you go off experimenting.

 

[waveslayer]

More like the "G" instead of R.

G stands for gouges!

R for Retard!

 

[Rodney65]

I’m still trying to to figure out what he thought he was accomplishing.

Same

 

[Im2bent]

I’m still trying to to figure out what he thought he was accomplishing.

My impression from the op was he was trying to prove Frank's barrel had an inconsistent bore and wanted a new barrel. @Frank Green ?

 

[corsairpilot62]

What was Dude thinking?! And what happened to just some Ballistol, a nylon brush, and some cotton scraps. Works fine all the time.

 

[Ex E6]

WTH , another mental midget experiment , I figured they were voted out . Did I miss something ???.

ANY of the following Lead ,Copper , Tin or combination aka White metal . Any electricians around ? ,perhaps they could lend a Bell Ringer bit and do a smooth bore

 

[Edds]

About a month ago, I stuck a 2" long .330" pin gauge into the well oiled bore of a new 338 Bartlein barrel blank. I turned it loose and it slowly started slithering to the other end. I was fascinated by the fact that I could put my finger over the hole and feel a suction and make the pin stop, remove my finger and it would start moving again. In a few seconds it fell out the other end. I'm easily entertained.

 

[Threadcutter308]

About a month ago, I stuck a 2" long .300" pin gauge into the well oiled bore of a 338 Bartlein barrel blank. I turned it loose and it slowly slithered out the other end.

 

[carbonbased]

Worse yet.... a steel bushing was made and to what spec it was made to and your pushing it down the bore.

Amateur, that slugger was.

Pros use diamond-encrusted carbide pumice bushings.

 

[Edsel]

We do practice a lot of “snake oil and voodoo” things…

…this one just so happens to be destructive

 

[Edsel]

Did he use Dykem to try and prove his point?

 

[Numedal]

Did he use Dykem to try and prove his point?

After all, how else would one know where the bore was tight?

 

[CK1.0]

I’m always amazed when guys would rather blame a poor defenseless tube of steel for accuracy issues instead of looking in the mirror (when 99.9% of the time it’s the human that sucks).

No need to throw shade on borescopes and abrasives either… they’re just tools, it’s not their fault goofballs that stroke away their rifling give them a bad rap.