So how does one deal with transfusions in the wake of Clot Shot

[sirhrmechanic]

Buddy and I were discussing this question...

What is the status of the nation's blood supply in the wake of everyone getting a clot shot and dropping over dead? In theory, anyone donating blood who has taken a vax is now 'infected' with vaccine. Their choice... fine, I get it.

But what happens if someone who is not willing to accept an experimental and dangerous vaccine that is killing people at an extraordinary rate... who needs a transfusion? In a medical emergency, is one going to get an arm full of blood that is swimming with things?

I'm not a medical professional, so I have no idea whether the blood supply puts the un-vaccinated at risk? Is there a way to request blood from non-vaxxed individuals? Are they even allowed to donate blood any more?

It's something I never thought of or heard discussed during all this crap. So what is the science? What are the concerns? How does it all work?

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. I am on the "Can't give blood" list because I spent too much time overseas. And the one that is hilarious is... "Too much time living in England during Mad Cow Disease." Seriously. So, there ya go. Maybe I should get a couple of gallons of my own blood drawn and frozen? At least I'll know where it came from!! ;-)

 

[AllenOne1]

You can have your own blood drawn processed and stored for your own use but it is expensive to have them do it. Worth it in my mind if you are probably going to need it in the near future.

I try to avoid doctors at all costs, I refuse to go unless I think I'm going to die anyway and even then I'll think twice about it these days.

 

[DIBBS]

I did a little research a while back and the folks who collect blood around here didn't seem to have a problem with vaccinated blood, which I think is bullshit.

Not sure how widespread this approach is.

As @AllenOne1 stated, I have a huge distrust of Pharma and the Medical profession in general and try and avoid doctors... unless in dire need, among other things.

 

[Carnifex]

I'm not a medical professional

You don’t say?

 

[7.62willdo]

this is a legitimate question, maybe we could get a legitimate answer from a doctor, I know we have a few on here….

 

[Eli17L]

I would like to know....

 

[sirhrmechanic]

You don’t say?

I did say...

I'll say it again... not a medical professional. But I don't want to be sitting on a gurney someday wondering if I am getting poisoned.

So perhaps someone can jump in with some good discussion!

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. Not Anti Vaxx, either. I've had everything from all the childhood ones to shingles and one flu shot many years ago. It was a waste of time and I never did it again. But I am all for vaccination. Smallpox, measles, polio, diptheria, mumps, rubella, tetnus... had them all growing up happily. But this latest one is a psy op IMHO (and that field I do know)... not a medical necessity. So asking a legit question.

 

[AllenOne1]

Here is information posted by Mount Sinai is that legitimate for you?

Autologous Blood Donation (Your Own Blood)

Although blood donated by the general public and used for most people is thought to be very safe, some people choose to use a method called autologous blood donation. Autologous blood is blood donated by you, which you later receive if you need a transfusion during or after surgery.

• You can have blood taken from 6 weeks to 5 days before your surgery.
• Your blood is stored and is good for a few weeks from the day it is collected.
• If your blood is not used during or after surgery, it is thrown away.

If you wish to donate your own blood, you must make arrangements yourself. Your hospital may be set up to receive these donations and store the blood. Otherwise, your local blood bank may handle this process. Most of the time, you will need to pay for this process.

Problems can arise with autologous blood donation.

• Donating this blood can make you anemic, or have a lower blood count, before your surgery. As a result, it is still possible that you will need to receive a blood transfusion with blood donated by the general public. In this case, your provider may suggest that you do not donate your own blood too close to your surgery date so that you have time to recover before surgery.
• In rare cases, a mistake by the blood center or the hospital can result in you receiving the wrong unit of blood. If this happens, you may have a reaction to the blood you receive.

To help your body make more blood cells, your provider may ask you to take extra vitamins and minerals, including:

• Iron tablets
• Folic acid
• Vitamin C

You may also get a medicine by injection to boost your blood count before surgery.

 

[EddieNFL]

^ Late to the party.

Although blood donated by the general public and used for most people is thought to be very safe...

Hmmm

 

[EddieNFL]

PS. Not Anti Vaxx, either. I've had everything from all the childhood ones to shingles and one flu shot many years ago. It was a waste of time and I never did it again. But I am all for vaccination. Smallpox, measles, polio, diptheria, mumps, rubella, tetnus... had them all growing up happily. But this latest one is a psy op IMHO (and that field I do know)... not a medical necessity. So asking a legit question.

You're talking about properly developed and vetted vaccines, not a "Jim Jones" KoolAide solution brewed with only political/monetary gain in mind.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

You're talking about properly developed and vetted vaccines, not a "Jim Jones" KoolAide solution brewed with only political/monetary gain in mind.

Exact-a-mundo!!!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Krawlven]

Here is information posted by Mount Sinai is that legitimate for you?

Autologous Blood Donation (Your Own Blood)

Although blood donated by the general public and used for most people is thought to be very safe, some people choose to use a method called autologous blood donation. Autologous blood is blood donated by you, which you later receive if you need a transfusion during or after surgery.

• You can have blood taken from 6 weeks to 5 days before your surgery.
• Your blood is stored and is good for a few weeks from the day it is collected.
• If your blood is not used during or after surgery, it is thrown away.

If you wish to donate your own blood, you must make arrangements yourself. Your hospital may be set up to receive these donations and store the blood. Otherwise, your local blood bank may handle this process. Most of the time, you will need to pay for this process.

Problems can arise with autologous blood donation.

• Donating this blood can make you anemic, or have a lower blood count, before your surgery. As a result, it is still possible that you will need to receive a blood transfusion with blood donated by the general public. In this case, your provider may suggest that you do not donate your own blood too close to your surgery date so that you have time to recover before surgery.
• In rare cases, a mistake by the blood center or the hospital can result in you receiving the wrong unit of blood. If this happens, you may have a reaction to the blood you receive.

To help your body make more blood cells, your provider may ask you to take extra vitamins and minerals, including:

• Iron tablets
• Folic acid
• Vitamin C

You may also get a medicine by injection to boost your blood count before surgery.

My wife did that in preparation before she gave birth to our kids.

She was in a really bad car wreck the year before she got pregnant. Some odd results of one of the transfusions during that, is she can't take most blood if she needs more now.

Lot of complications for her pregnancy, and the way things were placed, she had a high chance of bleeding out if she didn't have a c section.

Her Dr vanished day of.
New random guy comes in, ignores plan completely.
"Normal birth" massive amounts of bleeding, and they don't use the blood stored for her.
Second time in 2 years she almost died in a hospital.


Just because it's taken from, and saved specifically for you, doesn't mean they will use it.

 

[Jack's Dad]

If you needed blood bad enough to require a transfusion would you turn down vax filled blood? Case A you could die very quickly without the blood. Case B you'll almost certainly never have an adverse reaction. Just curious if you are willing to die for your largely paranoid notions. It's also easy to be cavalier in the hypothetical but when the rubber meets the road you should be thankful for what you can get.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

If you needed blood bad enough to require a transfusion would you turn down vax filled blood? Case A you could die very quickly without the blood. Case B you'll almost certainly never have an adverse reaction. Just curious if you are willing to die for your largely paranoid notions. It's also easy to be cavalier in the hypothetical but when the rubber meets the road you should be thankful for what you can get.

Depends on the situation... if I were going in for a procedure, no I would want to know what is going on.

If I was bleeding out from a car wreck, I would take what I could get.

But I am interested in the concept... not so much in the immediate practical application in my arm.

So the question stands... Are people who don't want any exposure to the 'clot shot' that is killing people left and right... at risk from transfusions?

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. There is an interesting historical precedent for your comment, which is that a lot of people in WW2 were concerned that they might get transfused with "Negro" blood. The US Army Medical Corps didn't make any distinctions. And as African American units were often in support roles, they were readily available blood donors. So an awful lot of creepy-ass-cracker GI's found themselves with several pints of Soul Brother in their system. And didn't have any adverse effects. Because we all bleed the same blood. Right up until that blood is filled with gene-modifying antibodies created by James Bond Villians like Bill Gates, Moderna, Pfizer and any number of other globalist monsters. I know blood is interchangeable based on type. But would anyone take Blood from a flaming Aids patient? Oh wait, you can't say that. It's not woke.

 

[7.62willdo]

Not hard to see who got the shot and who didn’t….. in this thread.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

<sarc>Not me - if I was bleeding out and needed a transfusion and they couldn't satisfy me that the blood going into my veins was 100% pure unaltered un vaccinated blood ( from White people) and was positively, absolutely free of Democrat/Libtard/Socialist/Commie components I'd rather lie there and die than compromise my next-to-godly pure blood. Arian Pure Blood or death for me. Pure Blood Rules.

If you aren't willing to die for your convictions they are just silly suggestions. Run on along and die now because we don't wanna be tainted with that kind of bullshit, do we? See ya in Heaven. Or Valhalla. Or whatever.... </sarc>

VooDoo

 

[SanPatHogger]

Maybe find a couple clean friends with the same blood type as you. If you are having some type of procedure and need some, you could donate to yourself ahead of time and have a friend or two in reserves.

Are you in south Texas? I'll give you some.

 

[AllenOne1]

Maybe find a couple clean friends with the same blood type as you. If you are having some type of procedure and need some, you could donate to yourself ahead of time and have a friend or two in reserves.

Are you in south Texas? I'll give you some.

That's actually a good idea if you know ahead of time that you might need blood. They were going to let me donate for my sister in law but we figured it out to late to get it done. Can't remember how many days they needed before the surgery to get it processed.

It's not like on Mash were you are on the next table pumping it over.

 

[Sako man]

But I am interested in the concept... not so much in the immediate practical application in my arm.

So the question stands... Are people who don't want any exposure to the 'clot shot' that is killing people left and right... at risk from transfusions?

Right now as it stands, you would want to avoid a possible transfusion with vaccinated blood. Like Covid itself, there is not enough data currently on the long term effects of spike proteins and how they effect the organs, and nervous system. In accepting vaccinated blood you would also be receiving previously developed spike proteins. However, accepting vaccinated blood is probably safer than receiving the vaccines themselves. As well timing effects the equation, the more time that goes by between when the donor received their last booster and when they gave blood, the better for the recipient.

 

[Aftermath]

Maybe I should get a couple of gallons of my own blood drawn and frozen?

That shit is surely toxic.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Didn't a lot of people get AIDS back in the 80's from blood transfusions?
Then they stopped homosexuals from donating to stop it?

 

[theLBC]

i can't donate either, for the same reason (time in the uk).

i'm out!

 

[SRW]

I spent some time in the hospital this summer due to sever diverticulitis. 8 days in June then 4 last week for my sigmoidectomy. First trip i was admitted from the ER. While in the ER, once they knew they were going to admit me I got to play 20 questions with the staff to cover all the insurance, medical directive, etc. questions. When they asked for permission to do a blood transfusion if necessary I asked if they knew if the blood had received the Covid vax or not. The two nurses looked at each other then me and said they’ve never heard that question before.

Based on that, I don’t think it’s something they track or care to.

I‘ve never thought about having my blood stored but that would mean that I’d have to go to wherever it’s store if I need it.

 

[AngryKoala]

Based on the effectiveness over time I wouldn't worry if it had been "tainted" or not.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

That shit is surely toxic.

Well if you mean from beer, caffeine, whatever they put in Pop Tarts and Safety-Kleen Parts Washer fluid... you ain't kidding!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Didn't a lot of people get AIDS back in the 80's from blood transfusions?
Then they stopped homosexuals from donating to stop it?

A few got it... I don't think it was huge numbers.

But they didn't stop the gays from donating. The set up a screening test so every pint was tested (those extra vials on the blood bag). So Aids infested shits would go in and donate blood.... but then it would get destroyed. It was sort of a "Don't ask Don't Tell" deal. Because you can force the population to mask up and take untested vaccines that cause heart failure for a virus with a 99.996 percent survival rate.

You can't however, call out an Aids fag. And Princess Diana wanted to hug you. And Freddie Mercury was an icon. And Aids Babies could got to Kindergarden and bite normal kids.

Nope... can't discriminate against Aids.

Sirhr

 

[Long_Action]

I look at my 1/2 glass of whiskey a little different than most of you Lads. Had a quarter size hole in my heart, patched at the age of 3.... 41 years ago. Never served in the military due to this, and have been told "No" My entire life.

I have been married 20 years, to the same woman. She still puts up with my shit and we have a wonderful son, whose birth parents graciously let us adopt 15 years ago.

The best advice I can give is "Don't be afraid to live." When you are dead, you won't be able to feel anything anyway. Most "Men" question things like blood donations, because they worry about the wellbeing of their children.

I have zero fear of death, because I have been living on "Bonus" time for 40 years. God willing, my kiddo will never have to worry about a transfusion, but all kids should be safe from the BS that was peddled upon them.

With the advice about not being afraid to live, comes some responsibility. In doing so, don't be afraid to talk to others like a Man. Men were put on this planet to protect women and children. For Christ sake, speak up. Women need support, thus they need Men to start talking like "Men"!

Just my 2 cents...

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

Buddy and I were discussing this question...

What is the status of the nation's blood supply in the wake of everyone getting a clot shot and dropping over dead? In theory, anyone donating blood who has taken a vax is now 'infected' with vaccine. Their choice... fine, I get it.

But what happens if someone who is not willing to accept an experimental and dangerous vaccine that is killing people at an extraordinary rate... who needs a transfusion? In a medical emergency, is one going to get an arm full of blood that is swimming with things?

I'm not a medical professional, so I have no idea whether the blood supply puts the un-vaccinated at risk? Is there a way to request blood from non-vaxxed individuals? Are they even allowed to donate blood any more?

It's something I never thought of or heard discussed during all this crap. So what is the science? What are the concerns? How does it all work?

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. I am on the "Can't give blood" list because I spent too much time overseas. And the one that is hilarious is... "Too much time living in England during Mad Cow Disease." Seriously. So, there ya go. Maybe I should get a couple of gallons of my own blood drawn and frozen? At least I'll know where it came from!! ;-)

Jesus.. I didnt even think about this but very good point.
Will VAIDs blood overpower my pureblood and give me the myo if it comes down to it? Dont wanna find out..

 

[Codiekfx400]

I donate blood regularly and have never been asked if I had the clot shot or not. Next time I go in I will ask the nurse. Should make for interesting conversation.

 

[SONIC SAAMI]

I donate blood regularly and have never been asked if I had the clot shot or not. Next time I go in I will ask the nurse. Should make for interesting conversation.

you giving potential life to someone I’ve been told it is one of the healthiest things you can do for yourself. Sort of an out with the old and in with the new type of thing.
It’ll be interesting to hear what information do you get from the nurse.

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

you giving potential life to someone I’ve been told it is one of the healthiest things you can do for yourself. Sort of an out with the old and in with the new type of thing.
It’ll be interesting to hear what information do you get from the nurse.

And if you're on roids, you actually have to get rid of the excess red blood cells. When I hit 35, Im gonna be absolutely juiced to the max on TRT. No reason not to...

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Well, they did get magic Johnson to retire.

A few got it... I don't think it was huge numbers.

But they didn't stop the gays from donating. The set up a screening test so every pint was tested (those extra vials on the blood bag). So Aids infested shits would go in and donate blood.... but then it would get destroyed. It was sort of a "Don't ask Don't Tell" deal. Because you can force the population to mask up and take untested vaccines that cause heart failure for a virus with a 99.996 percent survival rate.

You can't however, call out an Aids fag. And Princess Diana wanted to hug you. And Freddie Mercury was an icon. And Aids Babies could got to Kindergarden and bite normal kids.

Nope... can't discriminate against Aids.

Sirhr

His magical Johnson got him AIDS

 

[EddieNFL]

Well, they did get magic Johnson to retire.

His magical Johnson got him AIDS

And Tommy Morrison.

 

[AngryKoala]

And if you're on roids, you actually have to get rid of the excess red blood cells. When I hit 35, Im gonna be absolutely juiced to the max on TRT. No reason not to...

They give you test big whoopee. You want the real results of roids take dbol, deca and test-e for 8-10 week cycle. Never felt better than those two months.

 

[BoilerUP]

Roll the dice on bleeding out and dying now, or roll the dice on transfused vaccinated blood causing you an issue later.

I've been vaxxed/boosted (don't give a shit if anybody else has) and died seven times already, so pay yous money and take yous chances.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Not possible.

and died seven times already,

Death is a one way ticket. You don't get to do it over again and again.
Close to death? Certainly. Many of us have been there. Some of the junkies on the streets are given narcan a couple times in the same day. Moments from death but not dead.

Just busting your balls. We know what you mean.

 

[PCR]

Lot of interesting responses here. I have wondered the same thing and believe it’s a legit question considering what’s in the jab

 

[Lostin89]

Buddy and I were discussing this question...

What is the status of the nation's blood supply in the wake of everyone getting a clot shot and dropping over dead? In theory, anyone donating blood who has taken a vax is now 'infected' with vaccine. Their choice... fine, I get it.

But what happens if someone who is not willing to accept an experimental and dangerous vaccine that is killing people at an extraordinary rate... who needs a transfusion? In a medical emergency, is one going to get an arm full of blood that is swimming with things?

I'm not a medical professional, so I have no idea whether the blood supply puts the un-vaccinated at risk? Is there a way to request blood from non-vaxxed individuals? Are they even allowed to donate blood any more?

It's something I never thought of or heard discussed during all this crap. So what is the science? What are the concerns? How does it all work?

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. I am on the "Can't give blood" list because I spent too much time overseas. And the one that is hilarious is... "Too much time living in England during Mad Cow Disease." Seriously. So, there ya go. Maybe I should get a couple of gallons of my own blood drawn and frozen? At least I'll know where it came from!! ;-)

All I can add to this is that the last couple times I've given blood they've very clearly asked me if I've had any if the covid vaccinations. When pressed on the why, I've only got the "for records keeping" responses.

Could be a total coincidence...maybe not tho

 

[918v]

Second hand vaccination is like second hand smoke.

 

[Maciej]

When blood is donated it’s subsequently processed to separate red blood cells, white blood cells, and platelets. The issues associated with the vaccine is the uncontrolled activation of platelets. If you’re getting a transfusion, it’s usually red blood cells, so all is copacetic for those that are concerned.

 

[SanPatHogger]

COVID-19 Vaccines

Vaccines are seen as one of the best ways to stop COVID-19. Learn more about the types of vaccines, including the newly approved Novavax.

www.webmd.com

 

[rhsc]

If you needed blood bad enough to require a transfusion would you turn down vax filled blood? Case A you could die very quickly without the blood. Case B you'll almost certainly never have an adverse reaction.

How do you know that? Genuinely interested if you have evidence to support the assertion.

Full disclosure: I haven't taken the vax and would still go with option B. I wouldn't like it, but the choice is pretty easy - risk almost certain death now, or possibly deal with health issues later. I don't like the choice, but hey, life is full of dilemmas.

 

[7.62willdo]

How do you know that? Genuinely interested if you have evidence to support the assertion.

Full disclosure: I haven't taken the vax and would still go with option B. I wouldn't like it, but the choice is pretty easy - risk almost certain death now, or possibly deal with health issues later. I don't like the choice, but hey, life is full of dilemmas.

He knows that because he got the shot so everybody should get the shot…..

 

[DIBBS]

COVID-19 Vaccines

Vaccines are seen as one of the best ways to stop COVID-19. Learn more about the types of vaccines, including the newly approved Novavax.

www.webmd.com

The FDA says its safe so it MUST be true. Mmmmmm Hmmmm.

Call me skeptical. They don't fucking know.

 

[SanPatHogger]

The FDA says its safe so it MUST be true. Mmmmmm Hmmmm.

Call me skeptical. They don't fucking know.

I was looking to see if there was a market for my unvaxed blood and I found that. Seems like I'm not allowed to sell my blood, just the plasma.
Too bad though... Could use the extra cash for primers and other goodies..

 

[Jack's Dad]

He knows that because he got the shot so everybody should get the shot…..

I don't give a fuck what you do honestly. I ain't selling anything. You do you. I do me.

 

[Jack's Dad]

I don't have any evidence. The prevalence of people with adverse reactions to the shot are relatively rare considering how many doses were given. Anything is possible obviously. Some things are just less likely to happen than other things.

 

[Sako man]

I don't have any evidence. The prevalence of people with adverse reactions to the shot are relatively rare considering how many doses were given. Anything is possible obviously. Some things are just less likely to happen than other things.

Humm, rare? Could be, but this is what I know anecdotally. My father is now at risk for blood clots, his D-dimer test is now in the 2500 range, which is way up there if you understand the test, this came on three weeks after his second shot. My aunt on my mothers side died of a massive stroke, my cousin who is nurse (who believes it was vaccine related) found her on the kitchen floor half conscious, who know's how long she had been there, she passed a day later. That was a week after her first booster, which was her third shot. We have numerous family members in various medical fields, they have seen some wild things relating to both Covid and the vaccines, neither of which you want to get.

 

[AngryKoala]

Humm, rare? Could be, but this is what I know anecdotally. My father is now at risk for blood clots, his D-dimer test is now in the 2500 range, which is way up there if you understand the test, this came on three weeks after his second shot. My aunt on my mothers side died of a massive stroke, my cousin who is nurse (who believes it was vaccine related) found her on the kitchen floor half conscious, who know's how long she had been there, she passed a day later. That was a week after her first booster, which was her third shot. We have numerous family members in various medical fields, they have seen some wild things relating to both Covid and the vaccines, neither of which you want to get.

I guess one would have to define rare and apply a statistical range. My opinion (no medical validation) is the adverse occurrence is somewhere in-between "rare" and "everyone's going to die."

 

[cast1]

Several differences between getting jabbed and getting jabbed blood. This is coming from a regretfully jabbed MD here btw. Getting jabbed conscripts your body’s ribosomes by turning you into a GMO, like some Monsanto corn, to get your own body to make the spike protein. Being transfused with the blood of somebody like me should in theory present you only with a temporary load of spike protein, to which I suppose you should make antibodies to. It might actually give you the benefit of conveying an immune response, without the mRNA/adenovirus delivery vehicle/mechanism.

Autologous donation is very difficult to orchestrate, let alone family or relative donations. Also, with autologous, you have to donate well enough in advance of the need that your own erythropoietic system can make up for the donated blood. Otherwise you’re just getting back the blood you recently lost in the first place.

Most hospitals use some third party for blood products (we use blood assurance) and my experience is they are not very receptive to that level of coordination. You more or less get what you get.