Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

[Hawk Gunner]

I bought a Badger build about 18 months ago before i deployed and just getting around to shooting it finally. It's supposed to be a Gen 2 and has less than 1k rounds fired. Today at the range I was getting a large number of light primer strikes. If I put the same round in my LTR it fired fine. I had the same issue on SWAMMO, FED GMM, and some handloads so I dont think it was just a hard primer issue.

Any suggestions on things to look at or for?

 

[jasonk]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

What's the serial number on the action? Less than 100 = Gen 1 I believe.

 

[turbo54]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

First off, check the serial number to see if you have a gen1 or 2. Gen 1's had light strike issues because of the firing pin spring.

Secondly, what trigger is installed?

 

[Hawk Gunner]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

Serial # is 14X so it is a Gen 2 for sure, and it has a timney trigger.

 

[turbo54]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

Timney trigger is the problem.

I assume you have a 510.

You need the 510-U.

The "U" designates a different sear, which holds the striker/firing pin a little further back when cocked.

Call Timney and have them send you the "U" sear.

Problem solved.

 

[kydron]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Timney trigger is the problem.

I assume you have a 510.

You need the 510-U.

The "U" designates a different sear, which holds the striker/firing pin a little further back when cocked.

Call Timney and have them send you the "U" sear.

Problem solved. </div></div>

+1, I had the same issues (different action) and they were resolved after Timney sent me a new sear. Here is a thread that shows the difference between the two sears. That would be the first thing I'd eliminate.

Snipershide.com - Can a timney trigger cause light primer strikes?

 

[Terry Cross]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

I would do one thing before working with the trigger.

The M2008 Actions have a firing pin that can be "adjusted" for proper protrusion from the breech face. During coating, etc. this entire assembly comes apart. When re-assembled, the firing pin is threaded into the cocking piece and the protrusion is set. If this is not set to recommended spec, it will not matter what trigger you have in the rifle. Badger publishes the recommended protrusion range for their actions so that this can be easily checked.

If your FP is set to spec, then definitely go to the U-sear and you should get positive results.

Let us know how this works out.

 

[Hawk Gunner]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

well I looked on badgers website and didnt find any instructions.

Can someone explain or post a picture or two of what I'm looking at before i go and screw something up

I've been known to tear stuff up without proper guidance.

Thanks for the input and help guys!!

 

[turbo54]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

Take the bolt out of your rifle.

Twist the bolt shroud to allow the striker/firing pin to go into the forward "fired" position.

Measure from the bolt face to the tip of the firing pin. Using the rod that comes out the bottom of your dial/digital caliper works fine for this.

You should come up with a MINIMUM of .050", and a MAXIMUM of .080". ~.065" is ideal.

Measure several times until you're confident you got a good solid measurement.

I doubt you have a problem with this, but it's worthwhile to check.

 

[Hawk Gunner]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

LOL, ok simple enough as i suspected. I'll post results this evening.

 

[Wheres-Waldo]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

I think Austin had the same problem with his M2008, I'm not sure if he had a Timney in his, but it wound up being the trigger after we checked his firing pin protrusion.

If your protrusion is off, simply loosen the set screw you will see on the underside of the cocking piece, either turn your firing pin IN or OUT depending on where you need to be... make sure your firing pin is indexed with the slot that is cut in the threaded end in line with your set-screw and tighten back down.

(Anyone know how many threads per inch the firing pin shank is?)

 

[Hawk Gunner]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

ok i measure to the best of my abilities 4 times. I had an average of .052 with .048 on the low side and .55 on the high side.

I adjusted it it's averaging .07 now. It's a little longer than both the pins in my 700s now.

It also seems to be hitting with a little more authority than it did before i started. I'll make a quick trip to the range tomorrow on my way to work to check it.

If that doesnt fix it, then I'll call Timney for the U upgrade.

Thanks for all the advice and help. It's greatly appreciated!

 

[turbo54]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hawk Gunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok i measure to the best of my abilities 4 times. I had an average of .052 with .048 on the low side and .55 on the high side.

I adjusted it it's averaging .07 now. It's a little longer than both the pins in my 700s now.

It also seems to be hitting with a little more authority than it did before i started. I'll make a quick trip to the range tomorrow on my way to work to check it.

If that doesnt fix it, then I'll call Timney for the U upgrade.

Thanks for all the advice and help. It's greatly appreciated! </div></div>

Best of luck with that. I expect you'll still need the U sear, though. ~.055" protrusion isn't too bad.

 

[Wheres-Waldo]

Re: Soft primer strikes on a Gen 2 M2008 action.

Any updates?