some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
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Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
Interesting. The V-max in the 17HMR just looks like it fragments to bits. For varmint hunting, that is the desired effect. For something that I want to keep the meat from, that might not be a good thing (depending on where I am aiming). I thought the 17HMR might be good for turkey hunting. It might be, you just have to go for a clean head shot.
Interesting. The V-max in the 17HMR just looks like it fragments to bits. For varmint hunting, that is the desired effect. For something that I want to keep the meat from, that might not be a good thing (depending on where I am aiming). I thought the 17HMR might be good for turkey hunting. It might be, you just have to go for a clean head shot.
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
Wow. There are some interesting differences between the 17hmr and 22mag.
I would be interested to see how a 20gr hollow point 17hmr round compares in regards to penetration
Wow. There are some interesting differences between the 17hmr and 22mag.
I would be interested to see how a 20gr hollow point 17hmr round compares in regards to penetration
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
i was wanting to see what the 17hm2 looked like i converted mine over from the 22lr to the 17 hm2 and i caught a fox in the head about 100yrds out and it left a massive exit wound the 22 would have never done something like that i was freakin amazed
i was wanting to see what the 17hm2 looked like i converted mine over from the 22lr to the 17 hm2 and i caught a fox in the head about 100yrds out and it left a massive exit wound the 22 would have never done something like that i was freakin amazed
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting. The V-max in the 17HMR just looks like it fragments to bits. For varmint hunting, that is the desired effect. For something that I want to keep the meat from, that might not be a good thing (depending on where I am aiming). I thought the 17HMR might be good for turkey hunting. It might be, you just have to go for a clean head shot. </div></div>
I switched to the 20gr. Gamepoints for groundhog hunting after having a bunch get away due to bullet splash wounding. A guy from rimfire central recommended the 20gr CCI gamepoints and said aim for head or shoulder blades and they drop like a rock. He was right. No more dramatic fragmentation on impact unless I hit a big bone. On a turkey, I would think you could get controlled expansion in the breast until you hit a bone then get a shotgun effect into the entrails. The V-max will likely start fragmenting on feathers and blow out the breast.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting. The V-max in the 17HMR just looks like it fragments to bits. For varmint hunting, that is the desired effect. For something that I want to keep the meat from, that might not be a good thing (depending on where I am aiming). I thought the 17HMR might be good for turkey hunting. It might be, you just have to go for a clean head shot. </div></div>
I switched to the 20gr. Gamepoints for groundhog hunting after having a bunch get away due to bullet splash wounding. A guy from rimfire central recommended the 20gr CCI gamepoints and said aim for head or shoulder blades and they drop like a rock. He was right. No more dramatic fragmentation on impact unless I hit a big bone. On a turkey, I would think you could get controlled expansion in the breast until you hit a bone then get a shotgun effect into the entrails. The V-max will likely start fragmenting on feathers and blow out the breast.
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
The 20gr XTPs are what I use on anything larger than a PDog now, they are very different than the VMAX in 17gr with a glancing hit or bone impact. I've shot a large number of rabbits with the 17gr VMAX and have not had a single one get away, but it's not uncommon to have to finish the animal with a second shot. By that time, you are looking at a pile of meet and fur. The 20gr XTPs (and game points) haven't ever taken more than 1 shot and have always provided clean kills with minimal external damage. I would guess some where in the range of 300-400 rabbits with a .17 HMR do date.
The 20gr XTPs are what I use on anything larger than a PDog now, they are very different than the VMAX in 17gr with a glancing hit or bone impact. I've shot a large number of rabbits with the 17gr VMAX and have not had a single one get away, but it's not uncommon to have to finish the animal with a second shot. By that time, you are looking at a pile of meet and fur. The 20gr XTPs (and game points) haven't ever taken more than 1 shot and have always provided clean kills with minimal external damage. I would guess some where in the range of 300-400 rabbits with a .17 HMR do date.
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 338BLOODHOUND</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i was wanting to see what the 17hm2 looked like i converted mine over from the 22lr to the 17 hm2 and i caught a fox in the head about 100yrds out and it left a massive exit wound the 22 would have never done something like that i was freakin amazed </div></div>
Which bullets were you using? The ballistic tips or the hollow points?
Honestly, I was pretty shocked to see fragmentation in gel. I wasn't expecting that. It would be interesting to see what the hollow points do. The ballistic tips are certainly far more accurate (in my guns).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 338BLOODHOUND</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i was wanting to see what the 17hm2 looked like i converted mine over from the 22lr to the 17 hm2 and i caught a fox in the head about 100yrds out and it left a massive exit wound the 22 would have never done something like that i was freakin amazed </div></div>
Which bullets were you using? The ballistic tips or the hollow points?
Honestly, I was pretty shocked to see fragmentation in gel. I wasn't expecting that. It would be interesting to see what the hollow points do. The ballistic tips are certainly far more accurate (in my guns).
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
At 50 to 75yds 20gr hollowpoints penetrate 100% with exit wounds on groundhog size game. And must be violent on internals as well, based on the ones my gun has killed. VMAX just splash wound when you shoot anything bigger than a squirrel or rabbit.
However my Lilja barrel on the Sako Quad just doesn't like the 20 grainers. It likes 17gr VMAX. Oh well, I keep boxes of the 20gr HP, it's a killer not a target gun.
At 50 to 75yds 20gr hollowpoints penetrate 100% with exit wounds on groundhog size game. And must be violent on internals as well, based on the ones my gun has killed. VMAX just splash wound when you shoot anything bigger than a squirrel or rabbit.
However my Lilja barrel on the Sako Quad just doesn't like the 20 grainers. It likes 17gr VMAX. Oh well, I keep boxes of the 20gr HP, it's a killer not a target gun.
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
If you keep the 17 hmr to its limitations, it is one of the funnest going. How do you not like that cartridge?
Did I mention I like the 17 hmr? Like a fat kid likes cupcakes!
That fragmentation factor prevents ricochet, which is a big plus in my area. More reason to smile!
If you keep the 17 hmr to its limitations, it is one of the funnest going. How do you not like that cartridge?
Did I mention I like the 17 hmr? Like a fat kid likes cupcakes!
That fragmentation factor prevents ricochet, which is a big plus in my area. More reason to smile!
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
The HM2 is a bad ass and overlooked little round. Everyone here knows shot placement is key, and when following that rule the HM2 has just as wide range of use as the HMR as far as im concerned. In its effective range that is..
The HM2 is a bad ass and overlooked little round. Everyone here knows shot placement is key, and when following that rule the HM2 has just as wide range of use as the HMR as far as im concerned. In its effective range that is..
Re: some gel tests .17hmr, .22lr , .22mag
The only run-offs I have ever had with a .17 HMR on groundhogs where with the 20 gr. Gamepoints. Never had one do anything more than kick for a bit with the 17 gr. VMAX or 17 gr. TNT. Shots to lung area stone them every time.
The only run-offs I have ever had with a .17 HMR on groundhogs where with the 20 gr. Gamepoints. Never had one do anything more than kick for a bit with the 17 gr. VMAX or 17 gr. TNT. Shots to lung area stone them every time.
