SOMEONE WHO KNOWS FROM WHICH RIFLE IS THIS STOCK???
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It is from a Mauser. Sporterizing military type as you can see the thumb cutout for stripper clips in the stock
Agree it's Mauser but which one? The location of the plate for cocking/decocking looks like a Swede 38. The sling mount looks like an Argentine 09 plus it would have a crossbolt. Too many Mausers too little time.
It appears to be cut out for a large ring. That eliminates Swedes, Mexican and Spanish Mausers. Can't get a length (full or intermediate) without a tape from one end to the other of the action let in.
I suggest dropping a Mauser action in there if you can ask a friend who might have one. Quite a number of full length actions will drop into the same stock. The doo-dad on the right side of the butt-stock would tell me it's pre- WWII German. It's a tool sort of to help you break the bolt down.
Added: It's pretty nice looking for ANY military stock. Makes me think too, that the bolt breakdown button and the crossbolt were add-ons. There is too much volume in that stock to have been a cut-down military.
This is a GEW-98:
So, I'm thinking you have an aftermarket Mauser 98, Large ring stock. Unless you can see "proofs" somewhere in it, that would tell you closer to what it was.
I suggest dropping a Mauser action in there if you can ask a friend who might have one. Quite a number of full length actions will drop into the same stock. The doo-dad on the right side of the butt-stock would tell me it's pre- WWII German. It's a tool sort of to help you break the bolt down.
Added: It's pretty nice looking for ANY military stock. Makes me think too, that the bolt breakdown button and the crossbolt were add-ons. There is too much volume in that stock to have been a cut-down military.
This is a GEW-98:
So, I'm thinking you have an aftermarket Mauser 98, Large ring stock. Unless you can see "proofs" somewhere in it, that would tell you closer to what it was.
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i don´t think thats is a Mauser, al least not for KAR 98, it´s much newer. and the small curve in the front let me see that probably it´s not a military gun.
it´s almost the half of that mauser stock.
i´ll upload few pics with a mesure refference.
THANKS,
Marie Franziska.
I don't think it's a cut-down stock. Like you say, there's too much there for it to have started as a military stock. I've seen a bunch of hunting rifles with the crossbolt, seems to just be one of those things some folks like and others don't.
But the stock disc, that one puzzles me a wee bit. I think it's a unit disc, not a takedown disc, same as the pic you have.
UNIT DISC
vs
TAKEDOWN DISC
Either way, sporter stocks with any kind of disc are something I've barely seen unless it was a chopped-down military stock. Maybe a previous owner just thought it looked cool?
I think that is correct. I just looked through all 400 pages of my primary resource on all the various Mauser military rifles and there is no military Mauser in this reference book with a stock like the one on this thread:
My guess? Absent some military proof marks on the stock, its likely a commercial stock of European origins perhaps made during the 1960s-70-80s to fit a surplus large ring Mauser action.
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Stock has a cut out for an upper hand guard spring, not a sporter stock feature. In the barrel channel you can see the cut out.
The stock is cut for a military rear sight base, again generally not a sporter stock feature.
Without question a large ring, but model? Metric tonnes (yes, that's correct) of small contracts and rebuilds. There are large ring Mexican La Coruna Mausers made by Fabrica de Armas with upper hand guards; Steyr and FN Colombian contracts and the like. The stock disk could be an add on but not the barrel channel inletting. A very nice sporter stock artfully made from a military stock.
Would have been a straight bolt version as there is no remnant of a bent bolt handle scallop.
This is a La Courna and fits the outline save the finger grooves. They did produce a model with no finger grooves (scarce rifle). Sling swivel inletting is in the correct place. Same contour on the butt plate from the side. Recoil lug in the correct spot.
Yugo works as well.
Columbian may be closer?
None the less, think it is a military stock well done. Markings on or under the butt plate could help as could any in the inletting.
If a standard 98 action wont fit, it's probably Yugo.
The stock is cut for a military rear sight base, again generally not a sporter stock feature.
Without question a large ring, but model? Metric tonnes (yes, that's correct) of small contracts and rebuilds. There are large ring Mexican La Coruna Mausers made by Fabrica de Armas with upper hand guards; Steyr and FN Colombian contracts and the like. The stock disk could be an add on but not the barrel channel inletting. A very nice sporter stock artfully made from a military stock.
Would have been a straight bolt version as there is no remnant of a bent bolt handle scallop.
This is a La Courna and fits the outline save the finger grooves. They did produce a model with no finger grooves (scarce rifle). Sling swivel inletting is in the correct place. Same contour on the butt plate from the side. Recoil lug in the correct spot.
Yugo works as well.
Columbian may be closer?
None the less, think it is a military stock well done. Markings on or under the butt plate could help as could any in the inletting.
If a standard 98 action wont fit, it's probably Yugo.
So, Yugo 24/47 and 52/47 (long action Mauser) or Yugo M48 (intermediate action)?
The large ring Mexican you speak of is actually an M24 FN or M24/30 FN. Prior to and after those were imported to Mexico, the Model 1910 (Small ring) was the standard. I have been told they were intermediate and standard length. I do not have my 1933 Mexican with me to determine measurements.
Up until 1936 when they went to that 'new' model, I was under the understanding the actions were standard. I am under the understanding, the 1936 is intermediate. I cannot validate that, so if anyone has that action please come on and give us your assessment.
The large ring Mexican you speak of is actually an M24 FN or M24/30 FN. Prior to and after those were imported to Mexico, the Model 1910 (Small ring) was the standard. I have been told they were intermediate and standard length. I do not have my 1933 Mexican with me to determine measurements.
Up until 1936 when they went to that 'new' model, I was under the understanding the actions were standard. I am under the understanding, the 1936 is intermediate. I cannot validate that, so if anyone has that action please come on and give us your assessment.
Stepping back and re reading, I guess the m48 would be right out as the stock for the M48 has the 98k style stock slot for the sling. The FN rifles mostly have the rear sling swivel inletted further back on the bottom of the stock, closer toward the toe vs just behind the pistol grip. The exercise here I guess is to show it is an altered military stock vs a commercial stock. Commercial would be a relative term as the rifle was most likely a custom/guild gun as opposed to a commercial / production stock. Measurement of the distance between the action screw holes would decide standard or intermediate. Action inletting is defiantly a large ring Mauser of some iteration. Pictures of the butt plate and close ups of the action inletting could possibly help.
