Something I just realized with the whole Afghanistan disaster

[TheGerman]

Its been reported that not even our allies knew we were just going to go out for milk in the middle of the night and bail. It's obvious there was no plan outside of GTFO as fast as possible even though there was basically zero reason to; its not like 20 armor divisions were 2 days away and heading towards us or whatever. No reason to go, but we left with the chaos infused panic only seen by meth heads who are warned 2 minutes before the cops show up to arrest them.

On the flip side of this, no one has mentioned, or noticed, just how many Taliban showed up, in force, at basically the exact bases we had just abandoned. This wasn't just a few hundred of them or some random platoon that realized, hey, something is different here. It was an organized army across all fronts that knew where to go, when it was safe to move in further and then had a plan of what to cut off from where; thus causing the fallout we are seeing of 10's of thousands of US and allies basically left behind.

You can't tell me that they can mass that big of a force let alone do anything that didn't resemble a human wave zerg rush against these areas and installations in ~2 days. If they could, why hadn't they ever before done anything even 25% of the size of this?

No fucking way. There's something else to this.

Oh and P.S. - this also proves that basically fucking everyone over there is in some way Taliban/terrorist. They just weren't wearing uniforms and shooting at you at the time leadership deemed them 'the good guys' we had to win over.

 

[AllenOne1]

What I'm afraid of is that this was the plan and it was executed exactly to plan. Our military is not this incompetent, they know how to plan, they know how to execute and to your point there was no reason to rush. The question that scares me is WHY?

 

[nockhunter]

That whole thing was done on purpose for something down the road. I was saying it Saturday, and I'm still convinced today. There is no way that even this administration is this stupid!!!!!!!!!

Mike

 

[BullGear]

It's nothing more than the Demwits believe their lies and expecting everyone else to do the same. Joe had to get o ut BEFORE September 11th. He wanted to grandstand. Now I bet he doesn't even have a speech on 9-11.

He's such a loser...

 

[Jerry V]

I agree that something does not pass the smell test. How are we gonna do "over the horizon operations" when we just lost a shit ton of equipment and the "Generals" say they have heard rumors about equipment being taken out of country. But we do not know where? who? why? I call BS. This is the plan that they had

 

[DIBBS]

That whole thing was done on purpose for something down the road. I was saying it Saturday, and I'm still convinced today. There is no way that even this administration is this stupid!!!!!!!!!

Mike

Yes they are this stupid, they believe their own fucking lies.
Lions in sheep's clothing... in plain view.

MOAB

 

[Carlos Danger]

There is no way that even this administration is this stupid!!!!!!!!!

Mike

Don't kid yourself.

 

[nockhunter]

Call me a skeptic, I don't buy it.

 

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

I blame cheap beofeng radios from Amazon.

 

[Bender]

All of this is happening on purpose. You really think they put Biden in because he is the smartest guy in the room? Lmaoooooo!

America ended with JFK mobile haircut delivery.

 

[papershredder]

Biden certainly is that incompetent. But, yeah this was planned. Too bad Biden and Co. aren't going to be charged with treason because this is exactly what it is. Our equipment left behind and a pre-meditated pull out which transitioned the very people who harbored those who attacked on 9/11 to take control of all installations with no resistance what-so-ever. If that ain't aiding and abetting or providing support to a congressionaly declared enemy, then I don't know what is. Maybe we have the rights to oil pipelines secured now, mining rights, or maybe our leaders struck a behind the scenes deal with the taliban to pick on China now? Doubt it, but who knows? The fact the we the people are continually being left in the dark and lied to about the whole situation does not bode well for the current administration. Hopefully more Americans are waking up now and start planning on removing some politicians come mid term elections.

 

[Bender]

If we do not return to paper in person only voting.

we are finished

 

[Jerry V]

Mid terms will be too late. Pissolosi has called her minions back to session starting tomorrow to push the 1.5 and 3.5 trillion bills thru and give illegals ability to vote {citizen or not} and who knows what else in the 27,000 page bill that will take many of our state and personal rights away. We need to stop the Politian's from any further legislation. This administration has no mandate and the majority of the population does not agree with their policies and proposals. The demwits are weak now and we need to keep the pressure on. Call for impeachment, removal of all cabinet members that went along with the current failure of the Executive branch and State dept. We cannot be afraid to peacefully protest as is our right under the constitution. Need a call to Washington with 1 million plus voices.

 

[theLBC]

Oh and P.S. - this also proves that basically fucking everyone over there is in some way Taliban/terrorist. They just weren't wearing uniforms and shooting at you at the time leadership deemed them 'the good guys' we had to win over.

no arguments with most of this.
i think it might be a bit over the top to say they are all terrorists, but you might be right about them leaning the taliban way.
imagine living your entire life, or most of it, being a man in a muslim world, and then almost overnight a bunch of heretics come in and put a bunch of deviants and karens in charge of you, and having women tell you what to do, or what you can't do.
and they are surprised the men aren't embracing it? hahahahahaha!

 

[TheGerman]

no arguments with most of this.
i think it might be a bit over the top to say they are all terrorists, but you might be right about them leaning the taliban way.
imagine living your entire life, or most of it, being a man in a muslim world, and then almost overnight a bunch of heretics come in and put a bunch of deviants and karens in charge of you, and having women tell you what to do, or what you can't do.
and they are surprised the men aren't embracing it? hahahahahaha!

If you assumed they were all terrorists in the sense that any of these apply to them:

- They have actively fought the US
- They have passively fought by providing intel, logistics, storage, etc
- They have provided some other assistance in any form; training, weapons/munitions assembly, transportation, etc.
- They are indifferent and if they had a choice between how shit was and the US still being there, they'd choose to blow you up and/or would not assist you against anyone if given the chance
- Has a unibrow

I'd be right 98% of the time.

 

[TexPatriot]

I agree that something does not pass the smell test. How are we gonna do "over the horizon operations" when we just lost a shit ton of equipment and the "Generals" say they have heard rumors about equipment being taken out of country. But we do not know where? who? why? I call BS. This is the plan that they had

Nothing appears as it seems when you're dealing with the NWO and the swamp. We've only see the tip of the iceberg, what they want us to see.

Biden himself was probably the last person in his so called administration to know we were pulling out and they had to wake up the gimp to inform him.

 

[theLBC]

If you assumed they were all terrorists in the sense that any of these apply to them:

- They have actively fought the US
- They have passively fought by providing intel, logistics, storage, etc
- They have provided some other assistance in any form; training, weapons/munitions assembly, transportation, etc.
- They are indifferent and if they had a choice between how shit was and the US still being there, they'd choose to blow you up and/or would not assist you against anyone if given the chance
- Has a unibrow

I'd be right 98% of the time.

lol, i am not going to argue the point beyond this about "them", but to be fair, a good number of americans want to kill or quarantine folks that haven't had the #clotshot, so really which one is more of a danger to me?

 

[candyx]

What I'm afraid of is that this was the plan and it was executed exactly to plan. Our military is not this incompetent, they know how to plan, they know how to execute and to your point there was no reason to rush. The question that scares me is WHY?

Why do they cut and run from Bagram in July, where you would conduct all evac from to get all people out then Military in a orderly fashion. President going against the Military Advisors tells me that someone has the dirt on Biden and his family and he had to cut and run as told to. Why would POTUS knowingly and willfully leave thousands of Americans in the hands of the Taliban , he would either be totally insane or is doing it to protect his own interest. Think about it, what was ordered is completely opposite how you run a withdraw . Were not talking about 1 or 2 Americans left behind as expendable your talking about 15,000 plus. What is baffling that if the Generals knew this and were against this order that none of them pulled out a 45 and stop this problem from taking place to begin with.

 

[TxWelder35]

Has China moved in yet?

 

[Bender]

It all makes sense when you understand that powers that be are literally trying to destroy America and our way of life.

 

[candyx]

It all makes sense when you understand that powers that be are literally trying to destroy America and our way of life.

We are literally fucked 3 sheets to the wind, Biden goes you have camel toe and the wicked witch from the west in charge. I'd rather take my chances with the Taliban at that point.

 

[JakeM]

Its been reported that not even our allies knew we were just going to go out for milk in the middle of the night and bail. It's obvious there was no plan outside of GTFO as fast as possible even though there was basically zero reason to; its not like 20 armor divisions were 2 days away and heading towards us or whatever. No reason to go, but we left with the chaos infused panic only seen by meth heads who are warned 2 minutes before the cops show up to arrest them.

On the flip side of this, no one has mentioned, or noticed, just how many Taliban showed up, in force, at basically the exact bases we had just abandoned. This wasn't just a few hundred of them or some random platoon that realized, hey, something is different here. It was an organized army across all fronts that knew where to go, when it was safe to move in further and then had a plan of what to cut off from where; thus causing the fallout we are seeing of 10's of thousands of US and allies basically left behind.

You can't tell me that they can mass that big of a force let alone do anything that didn't resemble a human wave zerg rush against these areas and installations in ~2 days. If they could, why hadn't they ever before done anything even 25% of the size of this?

No fucking way. There's something else to this.

Oh and P.S. - this also proves that basically fucking everyone over there is in some way Taliban/terrorist. They just weren't wearing uniforms and shooting at you at the time leadership deemed them 'the good guys' we had to win over.

Chinese intelligence working with Pakistan, after telling Joe that he should leave.

 

[theLBC]

Chinese intelligence working with Pakistan, after tell Joe that he should leave.

the chinese have pakistan over a barrel financially. this is how china wins, not with guns but with money and influence (bribery).

 

[theLBC]

sorry, but not worried about terrorist goat herders when the ex director of the cia is this fucking piece of shit.

 

[JakeM]

the chinese have pakistan over a barrel financially. this is how china wins, not with guns but with money and influence (bribery).

They are doing that in Africa. They are basically buying countries with global corporatism.

 

[Baer45]

Its been reported that not even our allies knew we were just going to go out for milk in the middle of the night and bail. It's obvious there was no plan outside of GTFO as fast as possible even though there was basically zero reason to; its not like 20 armor divisions were 2 days away and heading towards us or whatever. No reason to go, but we left with the chaos infused panic only seen by meth heads who are warned 2 minutes before the cops show up to arrest them.

On the flip side of this, no one has mentioned, or noticed, just how many Taliban showed up, in force, at basically the exact bases we had just abandoned. This wasn't just a few hundred of them or some random platoon that realized, hey, something is different here. It was an organized army across all fronts that knew where to go, when it was safe to move in further and then had a plan of what to cut off from where; thus causing the fallout we are seeing of 10's of thousands of US and allies basically left behind.

You can't tell me that they can mass that big of a force let alone do anything that didn't resemble a human wave zerg rush against these areas and installations in ~2 days. If they could, why hadn't they ever before done anything even 25% of the size of this?

No fucking way. There's something else to this.

Oh and P.S. - this also proves that basically fucking everyone over there is in some way Taliban/terrorist. They just weren't wearing uniforms and shooting at you at the time leadership deemed them 'the good guys' we had to win over.

The best reason I have heard is because the military is not all onboard with the coup, etc. and could not be counted on not to stay against orders and keep things together so Biden closed the military air strip and stopped making checks to Afghan contractors. Not getting a check said “it’s over” and on came the Taliban with empty military bases full of goodies waiting for them…..the people in control don’t care about American lives any more then the Taliban…the babies being tossed over the fence and bodies dropping from planes is on every Democrat and Rhino politician and those that support them…

 

[candyx]

sorry, but not worried about terrorist goat herders when the director of the cia is this fucking piece of shit.

They should learn from this how fast the Taliban took back their country in 72 hours walking in the presidential palace.

 

[Boatninja]

I think somebody is behind the barn getting ready if not allready screwing us all somehow. As inconvenient and unprovable as it may seem it is nonetheless too convenient. Don't forget the politicians mantra "Don't ever let a good crises go to waste"!!!

 

[Bender]

sorry, but not worried about terrorist goat herders when the director of the cia is this fucking piece of shit.

This just makes it easy during the blue igloo time. They have identified themselves and their intents.

 

[RGStory]

If you assumed they were all terrorists in the sense that any of these apply to them:

- They have actively fought the US
- They have passively fought by providing intel, logistics, storage, etc
- They have provided some other assistance in any form; training, weapons/munitions assembly, transportation, etc.
- They are indifferent and if they had a choice between how shit was and the US still being there, they'd choose to blow you up and/or would not assist you against anyone if given the chance
- Has a unibrow

I'd be right 98% of the time.

Nope.

I can't agree with this, or else I must now be a terrorist.

I paid my taxes which we now know went to fund weapons/munitions for the Taliban.

 

[RGStory]

Why do they cut and run from Bagram in July, where you would conduct all evac from to get all people out then Military in a orderly fashion. President going against the Military Advisors tells me that someone has the dirt on Biden and his family and he had to cut and run as told to. Why would POTUS knowingly and willfully leave thousands of Americans in the hands of the Taliban , he would either be totally insane or is doing it to protect his own interest. Think about it, what was ordered is completely opposite how you run a withdraw . Were not talking about 1 or 2 Americans left behind as expendable your talking about 15,000 plus. What is baffling that if the Generals knew this and were against this order that none of them pulled out a 45 and stop this problem from taking place to begin with.

Leaving 15K United States Citizens in the benevolence of the Taliban, means we cannot execute missions or use force against the Taliban. Nor can a growing public backlash force our hands lest we endanger our citizens trapped behind lines.

If I was a clever diabolical fucker, I could have conceived of a plan like this.

Unfortunately, you are going to be hard pressed to convince me that Biden is still churning out thoughts at anything faster than senile gramps speed.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

 

[sixsixnine]

I blame cheap beofeng radios from Amazon.

Most underrated post of the entire thread.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Its been reported that not even our allies knew we were just going to go out for milk in the middle of the night and bail. It's obvious there was no plan outside of GTFO as fast as possible even though there was basically zero reason to; its not like 20 armor divisions were 2 days away and heading towards us or whatever. No reason to go, but we left with the chaos infused panic only seen by meth heads who are warned 2 minutes before the cops show up to arrest them.

On the flip side of this, no one has mentioned, or noticed, just how many Taliban showed up, in force, at basically the exact bases we had just abandoned. This wasn't just a few hundred of them or some random platoon that realized, hey, something is different here. It was an organized army across all fronts that knew where to go, when it was safe to move in further and then had a plan of what to cut off from where; thus causing the fallout we are seeing of 10's of thousands of US and allies basically left behind.

You can't tell me that they can mass that big of a force let alone do anything that didn't resemble a human wave zerg rush against these areas and installations in ~2 days. If they could, why hadn't they ever before done anything even 25% of the size of this?

No fucking way. There's something else to this.

Oh and P.S. - this also proves that basically fucking everyone over there is in some way Taliban/terrorist. They just weren't wearing uniforms and shooting at you at the time leadership deemed them 'the good guys' we had to win over.

Joe said today that we're gonna be sending them money and offering trade incentives.

 

[TheGerman]

Nope.

I can't agree with this, or else I must now be a terrorist.

I paid my taxes which we now know went to fund weapons/munitions for the Taliban.

Nice try hiding the real reason being your unibrow

 

[theLBC]

 

[TheGerman]

He's douchy, but hes not wrong.

 

[NoDopes]

tells me that someone has the dirt on Biden and his family

The entire world has access to Hunter's laptop and enough evidence to put the entire family away for a lifetime. Nobody in power cares.
FBI, CIA, DOJ, AG, Congress, NOBODY.

 

[GrantB]

Just a couple thoughts to try and start painting this clusterfuck picture. 1: we don’t know the reason for this debacle but it’s either money and/or power and sooner or later the beneficiary will come to light. 2: biden is not controlling anything, it’s whoever has their hand up his pussy (soros, obama, gates, china, putin or ???) or a group of people with a single goal in mind. 3: whoever is calling the shots wants biden and possibly harris out of the picture because why else would a lifelong politician tie themselves to this disaster, biden continues to double down on, this was my decision and I did the right thing and the buck stops with me. A politician will deflect, blame someone else or deny it was there doing. I think the people that are whispering in his ear is setting him up to fall on his sword 4: biden didn’t steal the election, someone else did but they had to use him as an intermediary to get the real people in power. I think when this thing really goes fubar in the next couple weeks we will see a clearer picture. One thing for sure they want a lesser America and more of your sacrifices. This whole thing really stinks and someday we’ll find the dead rat then we will see if we have the fortitude to take the garbage out.

 

[MCSO1357]

Buy more ammo (but not the MADE IN RUSSIA KIND, that's bad)

 

[eca7891]

maybe our leaders struck a behind the scenes deal with the taliban to pick on China now

This would be the most apparent non- full retard explanation. Arming up the tali to cause issues for China.

Nothing appears as it seems when you're dealing with the NWO and the swamp

Cause a distraction while the other hand does it job. What is the other hand found? Something else going on that we are not supposed to focused on?

If you wanted to collapse a county then flood it with immigrants and cause massive social upheavals.

I’m pretty sure we have both.

 

[brianf]

The Dems are thinking long term like they usually do, which is why the rank and file republicans have been getting smoked for the last 30 years arguing about who goes to church more or some bullshit.

biden is all about him and legacy

50 years from now the books will not talk about the thousands of civilians that get executed when we’re are out.

it will just say that Biden made the bold move that no other president was willing to do because it political suicide.

“Yet he was so firm in his belief system and campaign promises that he did it anyway, ending the longest war in US history”

I actually want to see how China and Taliban play together. They hate each other, because of how China treats Muslims is the western provinces. And the Taliban /Afghan dont care about money…as the CIA found out the last 20 years.

I expect problems on the boarder, small stuff that may not be publicized but dont be surprised the reason we left Ammo and equipment is to have a foothold and use the Afghan against China like we did against Russia

some senate report will come out years from now saying we are funding the Taliban. the regular US civilian will have a fit because they can’t think 2 steps in front of themselves remembering China is the main threat.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Has anyone seen Hillary lately? Has anyone even invoked her name? At all?
All this shit going on and she ain't on The View?

There's your smoking gun.

 

[clcustom1911]

There is no way that even this administration is this stupid!!!!!!!!!

Mike

Uuuhhhmmm

 

[brianf]

Has anyone seen Hillary lately? Has anyone even invoked her name? At all?
All this shit going on and she ain't on The View?

There's your smoking gun.

she's smarter than all of them put together

there is no "good" way to spin this so just sit back and let it play out

then go on the TV tour saying what you would have done and why it was better etc


as we know, doing it today is no different than doing it 10 years from now, or 10 years ago

the same events would happen anyway, because they are a faith based society not a government based society

joe ripped off the bandaid knowing he is a 1 term president anyway

 

[brianf]

just another guy saying what we all say..why cant we get americans out faster

we arent talking 15 people within 10 miles of the airport, there are thousands

its actually a unknown number because not all americans signed into the country and not all signed out of the country when they left

and the farther you stray from the airport the less "helpful" the taliban are

start kicking in doors grabbing americans 150 miles out of the city with no QRF and those 9 guys from his old team are dead on the 7:00 news

 

[TexPatriot]

@ brianf

With all due respect, bro, I wouldn't say Hillary is particularly smart. We pretty much had her pegged at being up to something from the beginning when she wouldn't leave the political arena after Bill's term.

She is incapable of telling the truth. She had one kid in her sham marriage with Bill and it turned out to be a butt ugly spawn of Webb Hubbell. She can't even reproduce honestly.

She is a devout, Satan worshipping Saul Alinsky Marxist through and through; a shameless, pathological lying, scheming reprobate thats for sure. Don't confuse evil with smart.

 

[brianf]

@ brianf

With all due respect, bro, I wouldn't say Hillary is particularly smart. We pretty much had her pegged at being up to something from the beginning when she wouldn't leave the political arena after Bill's term.

She is incapable of telling the truth. She had one kid in her sham marriage with Bill and it turned out to be a butt ugly spawn of Webb Hubbell. She can't even reproduce honestly.

She is a devout, Satan worshipping Saul Alinsky Marxist through and through; a shameless, pathological lying, scheming reprobate thats for sure. Don't confuse evil with smart.

true..wrong term

..sly as a fox and able to read the tea leaves of politics better than most

 

[Crang]

China sharing intelligence. The talibans memes are too sophisticated for them- Im guessing China there too. We should leave all potentil rare earth element mining sites radioactive for a millennia on our way out the door. If we cant have them- they cant either.

 

[OldSalty2]

So comically inept, once can only conclude is was purposely so.

Why? Maybe part of the negotiation? Idk. A little going away prize, or part of the bribe we are paying...who knows? Purpose driven distraction, while migrants flood our borders or for the rising Rona counts? Or, from the election and other domestic issues?

Either way the sock puppet didn't make this call. Sure he "scribbled his name" on the plan, but others likely presented the plan and got buy-off. Yes the buck stops at the top, but you get the idea...

 

[RGStory]

Either way the sock puppet didn't make this call. Sure he "scribbled his name" on the plan, but others likely presented the plan and got buy-off. Yes the buck stops at the top, but you get the idea...

Buck stops with the fall guy.