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I stand behind neither side but my sympathy goes more to the non Israeli's, call them what you want.
Putting all Biblical rights to the land aside, the bottom line is that the Gold merchant backed British Jews went to that land and brutally displaced 100.000's of people.
Thats it, bottom line, period.
If someone came and took your home, just because they could, how long would you be pissed and what lengths would you go to to exact revenge?
You claim to stand behind neither side, and you may not, but you are one of the most vocal antisemites on the forum.I stand behind neither side but my sympathy goes more to the non Israeli's, call them what you want.
Putting all Biblical rights to the land aside, the bottom line is that the Gold merchant backed British Jews went to that land and brutally displaced 100.000's of people.
Thats it, bottom line, period.
If someone came and took your home, just because they could, how long would you be pissed and what lengths would you go to to exact revenge?
The Arabs in the Levant have a genocidal, engineered culture organized around the hatred of Jews as their central reason for existing.
The answer is to carpet bomb both sides into submission.
We got plenty of “clean and moral Mexicans” here. But, they call themselves “Americans of Mexican descent.”I wonder what you would be saying if those clean and moral Mexicans claimed Texas was theirs and waged a never ending terrorist war on those dirty and immoral Texans? The Mexicans actually have a much stronger territorial claim to everything from Texas to California than the Arabs have on the Levant.
Joe Biden is your loadstar for your reality?
Fuck the Mexicans too. They have noI wonder what you would be saying if those clean and moral Mexicans claimed Texas was theirs and waged a never ending terrorist war on those dirty and immoral Texans? The Mexicans actually have a much stronger territorial claim to everything from Texas to California than the Arabs have on the Levant.
Joe Biden is your loadstar for your reality?
I wonder what you would be saying if those clean and moral Mexicans claimed Texas was theirs and waged a never ending terrorist war on those dirty and immoral Texans? The Mexicans actually have a much stronger territorial claim to everything from Texas to California than the Arabs have on the Levant.
Joe Biden is your loadstar for your reality?
In your scenario, do the texans have the mexicans locked in a box with a fence and control everything in and out?
log off, don't come backThis is not even a good analogy, since Texas literally was once part of Mexico.
The leaders of the J-state are all from the Former Soviet Union.
From the founder "David Ben Gurion," whose real name was Dave Green... to the current J-Caliph "Binyamin Netanyahu" whose real name is Ben Mielkowski.
Dave Green was a Russian. Ben Mielkowski is Polish.
Beelzebub Smotrich is from a place in Ukraine called, believe it or not, Smotrich.
Itamar Ben Givr- who is also crazy as a shithouse rat- is an Iraqi man (unbelievable).
Herzi Halevi is a Russian.
Yoav Gallant is a Polish.
It is true that all of those people I just named have panic rooms in their homes for the day the Palestinian people escape the concentration camps. They also have bomb shelters on site or nearby.
They also ALL have their second passport, ready to at all times, and a go-bag packed to escape to their home countries.
The only thing that keeps the genocide and occupation going is that it beats working for a living, and it's easier to steal and murder to make a life (so long as a person is convinced that they will never face consequences for their actions) than it is to live an honest life and pay your own way.
I SAY AGAIN- because people will be shocked whenit happens- the day we stop paying to prop them up is the day that flag goes down and the J-state disappears from anything but the history books.
Actually, I would argue that Mexico has less of a claim than anyone. Mexico was a country with those claims for about 80 years. That's it. Those claims were those made by Spain before Mexico. Many properties within New Mexico for instance still have the original Spanish government land grants. Who owned it before that? It wasn't the Mayans...I wonder what you would be saying if those clean and moral Mexicans claimed Texas was theirs and waged a never ending terrorist war on those dirty and immoral Texans? The Mexicans actually have a much stronger territorial claim to everything from Texas to California than the Arabs have on the Levant.
Joe Biden is your loadstar for your reality?
Actually, I would argue that Mexico has less of a claim than anyone.
That said, I get what you were saying to begin with.
Actually all those Jews spread across Europe and Asia were a diaspora from Juda/Israel. It was a return to Zion rather than a conquest.
So there's never going to be peace, and there will always be religious wars.....so what's going on in Gaza is the natural order of things. So why are you so upset?Also- not addressed, but what your God tells you is irrelevant to others.
That's not meant as an offense.
You shouldn't care what my God tells me, or what Vivek Ramamaamamla's Gods tell him.
So there's never going to be peace, and there will always be religious wars.....so what's going on in Gaza is the natural order of things. So why are you so upset?
I know what you are trying to convey, but it is an oversimplification. Scripture says that in the last days the veil will be lifted from the Jews after the number of Gentiles has been brought into the Kingdom. The Messianic Jews that are coming to Christ are a testimony to this, albeit the initial stages of it. While what you are saying is technically correct within the confines of holding to the Law and rejecting Christ, it must be remembered that God still has his eye on them and has not forgotten them just as He did not forget the Gentiles. That is truly a loving, merciful and graceful God, willing to accept all who come to him in faith and repentance.Sorry but the above (the post by Fig) is pseudo christian gobbldygook. Purpose made to keep American Protestants supporting the globalist concept of Israel.
It is St John who said that after the Jews committed decide the old religion became a dead religion (abandoned by God) and after 70 AD (Roman destruction of the Temple) it became a deadly religion (of the demons).
He also said that not everyone who claims to be a Jew is a Jew.
The question it seems surrounds more of the mortal plane: is what Israel is currently doing in line with what God's desires and character?
I'm calling it here. Operation Blue Beam.This will all lead in a straight line to the next 9/11 terror event in this country... and that won't need a theological explanation involving jihad-bis-saif or anything like that either- it will be just blowback for providing cash and weapons to the J-state.
This is all super simple stuff.
Hamas Emerges From Tunnels Still Intact, Starts 'Policing' Gaza Again | ZeroHedge
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"Hamas appears to be emerging from tunnels and rubble in Gaza to show that it never lost control of most of the area despite fifteen months of war," The Jerusalem Post acknowledges in a fresh report. "While Hamas suffered many blows from the IDF, it was able to recruit new members, and it even kept trucks and vans ready to return to the streets and show its presence."
"Videos purported to be from Gaza show the group in white pickup trucks driving around," the report continues. "The videos show large groups of armed men waving to crowds or standing and sitting on vehicles that are parading them through the streets.
Additionally, "Hamas police, an arm of the terrorist group, are also reappearing. They have been around throughout the war, but their presence has not been as clearly felt in some areas."
Is this thread about to go the way of the Ukraine thread now? Is this the new strategy around here?The only way for Isr*el to save face in the deal and for Hamas to do the necessary work of organizing the relief effort and beginning to clean up is for them to change their name.
We formally defeated Daesh (ISIS) when they changed their name to Jabhat al Nusra (JaN)... and we became "friends" when they changed their name to Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). Their leader, Abu Mohammed al Jewlani (Ahmed al-Sharaa) even congratulated Trump yesterday on his inauguration and the peaceful transfer of power. (LOL... I'm not even kidding.)
Hamas defended the people of Gaza from an enemy with no moral limits to their depravity, which was backed (fully) by the world's only superpower AND ALSO many other nations (to the tune of billions and billions of dollars). They've proven themselves to the people every day for 465 days of humanitarian atrocities and LOAC violations.
They also gained the respect of their Enemies (hubris played a big role in the J-state effectiveness- or lack thereof) and gained new Supporters (and probably even Enablers) worldwide. Probably some who opposed them are now sitting on the fence, even.
They aren't going anywhere... ever.
The Arabs in the Levant have a genocidal, engineered culture organized around the hatred of Jews as their central reason for existing. No other culture in the history of the earth has lived anywhere for three or four generations and still considered themselves "refugees". This is to keep a terrorist war going in perpetuity. There is no assimilating them, appeasing them, pacifying them, or dissuading them from their religiously melded dreams of another holocaust. In the 20 years they've been in absolute control of Gaza they've done nothing but focus on destroying Israel to the great detriment of anyone not part of Hamas. Wiping them out completely is the only legitimate path to peace. All this stupid deal does is keep Hamas on life support.
Actually all those Jews spread across Europe and Asia were a diaspora from Juda/Israel. It was a return to Zion rather than a conquest.
God said he was going to take the land away, and he did. But, he promised that they would stay his chosen people, stay culturally cohesive, and ultimately return to the land he had originally gave them. There really isn't another culture in human history that has managed to stay cohesive while being scattered to the wind. The first mention of a Jewish state that God will bless is in Genesis. In 2025 when flying into Ben Gurion airport you can actually see the political boundaries of Israel. One cannot fail to see this outline as one side is green, and the other is dead...almost like one side is blessed and one side is cursed... It's quite striking. Just sayin'.
I would not need to be a believing Christian to support the one free and prosperous sliver of land, with a parliamentary democracy, in the heart of totalitarian Arab nations. However, since I believe that the Bible is the Word of God and it commands believers to bless Israel, his chosen people, on whose line of David we are grafted through Christ, the choice is even easier.
On MLK Day one might listen to his thoughts on Israel:
"You declare, my friend; that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely ‘anti-Zionist’. . . . And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God’s green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews. . . . Anti-Semitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so."
"Peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all of our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel, and never mind saying it, as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land almost can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality."
MLK was certainly a flawed sinner like the rest of us, but he did know the Bible and knew right from wrong even if he sometimes chose wrong...
You do have a different way of looking at things.The only way for Isr*el to save face in the deal and for Hamas to do the necessary work of organizing the relief effort and beginning to clean up is for them to change their name.
We formally defeated Daesh (ISIS) when they changed their name to Jabhat al Nusra (JaN)... and we became "friends" when they changed their name to Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). Their leader, Abu Mohammed al Jewlani (Ahmed al-Sharaa) even congratulated Trump yesterday on his inauguration and the peaceful transfer of power. (LOL... I'm not even kidding.)
Hamas defended the people of Gaza from an enemy with no moral limits to their depravity, which was backed (fully) by the world's only superpower AND ALSO many other nations (to the tune of billions and billions of dollars). They've proven themselves to the people every day for 465 days of humanitarian atrocities and LOAC violations.
They also gained the respect of their Enemies (hubris played a big role in the J-state effectiveness- or lack thereof) and gained new Supporters (and probably even Enablers) worldwide. Probably some who opposed them are now sitting on the fence, even.
They aren't going anywhere... ever.
That’s just ridiculous. If Vivek’s God(s) tells him we are all born to an immutable station in life, because of crimes in a past life, that belief is incompatible with my beliefs and values. Probably yours too. So too is it impossible to live in peace with someone’s craven images and false prophets that tell them to strike off my head and convert me by the sword. “Coexist” presupposes Judeo-Christian values that encourage peaceful interaction and coexistence. This cannot exist with any religion that proscribes punishment and death for apostacy or blasphemy, which precludes any sort of pluralistic society. These are literally dead end religions. It is really only the casual adherents who do not agree with or believe in the actual texts who are able to live among us and thrive peacefully. Any religion must be judged by the most zealous and ardent believers, because they are the ones truly following.Also- not addressed, but what your God tells you is irrelevant to others.
That's not meant as an offense.
You shouldn't care what my God tells me, or what Vivek Ramamaamamla's Gods tell him.
Yes. Just ban the idiots please.Is this thread about to go the way of the Ukraine thread now? Is this the new strategy around here?
Why can't we have nice things? Or at least keep the news, even with all its warts.
that belief is incompatible with my beliefs and values. Probably yours too. So too is it impossible to live in peace with someone’s craven images and false prophets...
Which is why hamas was being punished.Here's the thing though- nobody gives a hoot.
That's between you and your God, and me and mine.
We have the freedom to worship as we choose in this country.
Those who feel otherwise? ...are actually allowed to feel that way, because we also have freedom of speech!
Those who interfere with the rights of others to worship as they choose? ...need to be punished
You shouldn't care what my God tells me, or what Vivek Ramamaamamla's Gods tell him.
I agree with this statement in spirit but religion doesn't work that way. You are either hopelessly naive or a just trolling.
Every religion has a built in agenda to wipe out all other religions.
...the greatness of christianity focuses on all the things christian leaders tell followers is good about following jesus and his disciples. When indulging in the buffet christians tend to ignore the old testament...