That's what you guys fail to understand. I did do a search. Multiple times. I searched all over. I searched google with very possible way of saying it and even looked on the hides thread that was started for the scope. I looked on their website. I looked on their Facebook page. Maybe you guys have failed to read what all I did before starting this thread? Including emailing and messaging them on multiple fronts. I never could find anything on the winner. I never recieved an email back. Now if you were in this position, the way I seen it is I have someone I credit card number that had ran a possible scam. What would you have done? I've said over and over I wanted some light shed on the matter. Sucks I had to go to these extremes to find out any information because their customer service lacks so much that I haven't recieved a response on the ammo I ordered a long time ago. It seemed sketchy. I didn't mother fuck or say these guys where a scam. I was asking if it was a scam and if someone could offer me some info on them because of the horrible experience I've had this far with them. Go do a google search for the sweepstakes entry. You won't find anything. I promise. Just a bunch of pages that don't exist anymore. Also, I ordered ammo that was specifically all in stock so I didn't have big wait times. It's been over a month and I had not seen a thing back about my order or my inquiries. Over a month now. It seemed as though I was being ignored and even removed from pages for asking the question. Maybe you guys haven't been the ass end of a scam before but I have and it all went just like what was happening. I'm extremely pleased to have learned it was not bullshit and these guys are reliable. Because they have my card number along with authorization of me telling them to withdraw hundred of dollars from my account. Maybe you guys should so a little searching or reading before you open your mouths? It's all right here in the thread of what I did to avoid this. No reasonable man would have started a thread on the net about a scam without first doing everything else possible. I am a man who also supports the small guy. I pay more and wait longer to keep the small guy in business. But I can't tell you how many small guys are out there pulling punches and acting like dicks. In that case, I smile, walk out the door and say that the small guy is better because personal customer support is the thing that is lacking in the world anymore and you get none from the big guy. So when I try to reach out to customer support multiple times and get no response, it seemed as though the small guy may have been a non existent guy. I really don't mind to look like an ass. If this thread got to Zach and he will now start to have better customer support and fix an error in his business model, well I'll take the role of the asshole. I fixed a problem that obviously hit home with the owner. So good. Now he can fix the leaks in his ship and hopefully sail to the top of his desired industry. I've ran my own small business and been raised in a small business owners family. I know that things happen and you fall short somewhere along the way... The good guys dust it off and fix the problem with a smile and a short idea that the customer is always right. Then, that problem never surfaces again and everyone raves about that area being so good in their business.
Again. I'm not trying to smear anyone. I was trying to find out information that wasn't being provided by the business after a month of trying and searching the web. I reached out to a community to help me with the question. The community answered and I got the information I was looking for. If I reached out and there was no more info able to be offered and it was indeed a scam, I would be smearing them and letting everyone know of my experiences and not to give your money to these guys because it will be stolen. That's how the net works. Unfortunately it also works by a bunch of guys who shoot guns so they think their tough and get to hide behind a computer.
This could have all be avoided if simply, ONE of the multiple messages I wrote had been answered within any kind of reasonable time frame. Or if there were possibly a phone number offered to me, the customer, by some other method than getting it with this thread. You see, this is why I've never joined the hide. Because I see all this shit. I see someone ask a question, some guys help and answer it and then the rest use the site to act like they are badass know it all with sniper abilities that make Marky Mark look like a storm trooper. I'd love this to be a more community based society and is love this to be a community based site. I've earned every one of my stripes and do my duty and shoot a rifle for the United States Army, defending it from all enemies. I know there are a lot of other guys on here that shoot a rifle for real and I see the other guys at the range who talk like they have more confirmed kills than Kyle. When really all they have is a mommy complex and the regret they couldn't hack it in the big world of guns so their Facebook page could have a picture of them in a army uniform so they could bullshit everyone and tell them they are special operations when really all you did was open the gate for me. Thanks guys.
The reason for which this thread was opened is a case closed. I don't think anyone else needs to chime in with their two cents. Even if their cents says they encountered the same problem. The information being searched for has been discovered. I'm thankful for that. And to think it was answered first hand by the business owner after I reached out to him personally for over a month. I think Zach has an open floor here, though, above any of these other jackasses who just don't know how to keep their sack traps closed. If he wants to write posts about his business and what he has thought, I feel he's entitled to say whatever he wants, even if what he says is negative to me and pushes me out of the customer light. The thread has his companies name on it. He has complete say over defending his name and what happened here. To everybody else, if you want to chime in, read the full thread before taking shots at anyone who has posted anything here. When you take a little what someone said and not the full thing and try to turn it into what you want it to say, you're just adding unneeded confusion and unneeded ramble to these threads where a specific bit of info is needed. You guys remind me a little high schooler girls who get on Facebook and pop up all over, throwing your little remarks and unnessessary and completely off topic rants that clutter the pages and make things confusing for people.
I said all that to basically say, thanks for the info I found here to the people who helped. Sorry Zach that this misunderstanding was taken to such extremes. I didn't mean to thrash your name. I tried contacting you. I'm sure now that you have a great business model and don't need my business anyway and I didn't mean to take things wrong. I just catch this ridiculous undertone from people on here that makes me laugh because no one I know in the real sniper community even know what this site is. Most of us don't have computers of our own. This undertone is extremely annoying and I possibly misread what you said and let that undertone bleed over on your response and it wasn't there. To everyone else. You can keep busy beating a horse that died a long time ago. I would recommend you to do some dry fire drills instead. I will be bowing out of this thread I started now because I found what it was started for and am happy to know it was an honest business running and honest promotion. Thanks
