@TxWelder35 i don't have any pressure signs, 25 was just where i stopped. Coincidentally I was hoping to be around 2850. Per the Hodgdon data I'm where I should be. I'll explore this 25gr area more.
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Nope, no pressure signs at all.Did you hit pressure with those loaded? Seems pretty slow if so. My group of friends and I are running 2950-3020 with 75 eldms
That is a little slow, but maybe where you wanted to be?Nope, no pressure signs at all.
That is a little slow, but maybe where you wanted to be?
I was working up a load for 223 tac class with 77’s (3000 speed limit). Went up to 25.9 with staball match 26” Bartlein 8T 223W
25.9 77RDF 3000
25.9 77TMk 2982
24.7 88 eldm 2847
Virgin IVI brass & soft ruag primers. No pressure on these.
!!! new Hodgedon powder new load data Update 1/21 !!!!!
What are you planning to load with it? 223, 224 Valk, & 6ARC for sure. Might also try it in 22GT, but there are already a lot of good Temp stable options in the GT Edit: This might be worth a try for 308 as well.www.snipershide.com
Good report. Are you going to keep pushing up?Staball Match powder round 2
In my first test of staball match i was less than impressed with the velocity accuracy and SD's. My first run was 26.5-27.5 grains.
This time i tested 27.5 up to 28 grains. The load data is limited. Hodgen shows 27 grains as the max load. So take my data with caution.
Going up in charge weight proved to increase accuracy, velocity and smaller SD's. I never hit noticable pressure as the brass was clean and the primers showed no flattning or cratering. All kept their shape and look once fired.
2.26" COAL, Barnes 105 Match Burner, Rem 7 1-2 primer, Hornady 4x fired brass, Staball Match powder. 20" proof steel barrel, gas gun.
5 shot groups
27.5gr - 2503 fps 1.25" SD 5 (10 shots)
27.8gr - 2538 fps .76" SD 13 (10shots)
28.0gr - 2571 fps .6" SD 5 (10shots)
26" proof .170 alpha reamer, alpha brass, 110 A-tips, CCI BR-4, StaBALL MatchI'd be interested to see how the match powder runs in 6GT. I keep waiting for someone to post with their results, but nothing yet.
26" proof .170 alpha reamer, alpha brass, 110 A-tips, CCI BR-4, StaBALL Match
31.5> 2785, 2755, 2767= 2769 average
32.0> 2802, 2825, 2824= 2817
32.5> 2814,2819,2819= 2817
33.0> 2855, 2868, 2863= 2852
Now the bad news, every shot was a very slight hang fire... just enough to feel the pin drop before the discharge. 33 degrees at the time I was shooting these. I'll test a different primer in the future.
No pressure signs but I wasn't looking for the top end either. I want to be in the lower 2800's with this rifle and bullet combo.Did you hit pressure? Im running 2840 in my dasher with 112’s and 6.5 staball
Looks promising. I actually managed to snag some H4895 today for the first time in over 2 years so I'm not quite as desperate for an alternative powder for my 223AI anymore, but I also picked up a couple pounds of staball match on the same order to try. Going to test it with 72s and 75s, and if it works well hopefully it will be a more available powder than H4895.Shot groupsfor speed today, StaBALL Match. Rifle is a 26" proof 223, bullet 75eld seated somewhere around 2.460 coal, brand new lapua brass and cci 400 small rifle primers.
25.3 was the first load I tried and contains my cold bore... what I don't recall is if I cleaned after my last shooting, if I did that may be contributing to the group size here.
Where did you snag the 4895?Looks promising. I actually managed to snag some H4895 today for the first time in over 2 years so I'm not quite as desperate for an alternative powder for my 223AI anymore, but I also picked up a couple pounds of staball match on the same order to try. Going to test it with 72s and 75s, and if it works well hopefully it will be a more available powder than H4895.
You happen to know the H2O capacity of the cases you're using?
Where did you snag the 4895?
What’s your velocity.Savage 110 6.5 Creedmoor 26" factory barrel, 123gr ELD with 38.5gr of StaBALL Match. I need to try a few tenths above and below that to see if it closes that group up any, but I'm happy with it so far. The first 3 were right on top of each other, then the other 2 were just outside.
I need to work up some loads with 130's, 140's & 143's to see what it can do.
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Averaged 2840 ft/s.What’s your velocity.
Savage 110 6.5 Creedmoor 26" factory barrel, 123gr ELD with 38.5gr of StaBALL Match. I need to try a few tenths above and below that to see if it closes that group up any, but I'm happy with it so far. The first 3 were right on top of each other, then the other 2 were just outside.
I need to work up some loads with 130's, 140's & 143's to see what it can do.
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I haven't had this rifle very long (maybe a few months), this is the first load development I've done so far. I do have another 6.5CM that's a 110 Tactical with a 24" barrel that I've done some loads for it.How does the accuracy and velocity compare to your usual load? Never messed with 123s in my 6.5C, or even researched them, so I don't know what an expected velocity range with the "go-to" powders would be.
It might be good for 130’s but isn’t it too fast to get 140’s fast enough?I haven't had this rifle very long (maybe a few months), this is the first load development I've done so far. I do have another 6.5CM that's a 110 Tactical with a 24" barrel that I've done some loads for it.
With 38.0gr of H4350 and 140gr ELD match I was getting 0.34" groups with an average of 2538 ft/s.
With 43.0gr of StaBall 6.5 and 140gr ELD match I was getting 0.40" groups with an average of 2680 ft/s.
Other than these 123's, I've just shot off the shelf ammo to sort of break the gun in. I think once I get 200-300 rounds through, I think it'll tighten up even more.
I have a lot of development loads to try with this new rifle before I find what it likes to shoot. If the weather cooperates this weekend, I'll be able to test 130's and 140's with the match powder.
I'll have to load up some with each powder to compare the velocities.
It might be good for 130’s but isn’t it too fast to get 140’s fast enough?
It'll be harder to get consistent low SD's with a ball powder & low case fill.
It goes with the territory. Absolutely no help LOlThat was a fair bit of rifle cleaning you got to do Bill! Hope you got some help with that part of the job!
Thanks for sharing the article.
Spending most of our time fixing storm damage from January and before we would call that done, we got hit again...Anyone using StaBall HD in 6.5 PRC?