Starting The Suppressor Journey ( Need Advice)

[Turkeytider]

From what I understand it’s about the possession after you die. I think that is for being able to transfer and not have to pay a stamp. Unsure of the legalese on possession during the approval time. It all seemed too complicated and I went the trust route just to avoid it all.

The whole process is a colossal pain in the ass. I wonder what the chances are that it’ll simplify sometime in the next four years?

 

[Turkeytider]

Not with good mounts.

I'm constantly removing my suppressors.

Good. Makes me feel better. Having to rezero every time you screw the thing on wouldn’t be worth it for me.

 

[Roper215]

From what I’ve heard, DOGE might just dismember it. Look up the back story of how cans even got added to the list is a fun read. I hope it goes the way of blockbuster.

 

[Camelfilter]

From what I understand it’s about the possession after you die. I think that is for being able to transfer and not have to pay a stamp. Unsure of the legalese on possession during the approval time. It all seemed too complicated and I went the trust route just to avoid it all.

Yah, plus trust makes it easier on heir(s) at a stressful time.

Just mentioning that ATF does allow for transfer to heirs after folks die. For folks whom haven't done the trust route. Hassle tho.

 

[spife7980]

Good. Makes me feel better. Having to rezero every time you screw the thing on wouldn’t be worth it for me.

The old cans that used spring as the retention with poorly spaced ratchet teeth were issues. These days any precision can should lock up solid as a bank vault every time. There are still some hard duty cans i wouldn’t trust but anything you’ve seen mentioned here will be good to go.

 

[2Twenty3]

If I were to be where you are now, I would do things differently than what I did when I started. To put it plainly, just because a suppressor costs a lot of money does NOT make it that much better than other cans on the market that cost considerably less. The suppressors that cost a small fortune are either marked up for their name or had an insane amount of R&D that needs to be made up for. I would first look into getting a versatile .30 cal can that does not break the bank. There are a ton of good options out there that can be had for not a ton of money. I would highly recommend cans like the "Simple Man" from Resilient Suppressors, the Enticer S from Diligent Defense, or the Polonium 30 from Otter Creek Labs. These cans are really good for those who don't know what to get, but don't want to fork over a heinous amount of coin at the same time. The main thing you want to look for is a can that utilizes the "HUB" interface, or really just known as the universal mounting system. This ensures that no matter what rifle you own, as long as it has a threaded barrel you can use it without issue. Stay away from cans that are strictly direct thread or only use a very limited mounting system like SureFire. Also try to stay away from cans that are specifically meant for certain weapon systems (like flow through models, or dedicated bores less than .30), or are made from wild materials like Haynes or Inconel. Steel or Titanium are the best routes to go for a can that needs to do it all. Don't get caught up in trying to get the shortest or longest model out there, just get something in the middle and you won't be disappointed. If you do go for one extreme or the other, you will just wish you got something else. But rest assured that you will almost certainly buy another can in the future, so buy what you want and don't feel like you're tied down to just that one forever. I would also recommend buying from Silencer Shop. They make it incredibly easy and if you go to a store that has a kiosk, it simply could not be easier. Sites like Capitol Armory sound great at first, but having to mail all your info to them and waiting an additional 30 days just to have it shipped to your door is a serious pain in the ass.

 

[Roper215]

I agree with the above, cans are like pringles… you can’t have just one… no matter what you buy, you will have another use case for another one in 6 months, or maybe I just have a problem.

 

[Turkeytider]

Lord knows, I really have to laugh at myself sometimes. Here I was, all set to pull the trigger on a suppressor. Took my Super Varmint to the range yesterday and had maybe my best day. Guess the stars were all aligned! Multiple hits on a newly acquired 3” gong at 500. I was hoping to hit it once! Also missed it a few times as well, just to be honest. Now, I’m wondering if I want to go to the expense and trouble of messing around with a good thing! Decisions, decisions!

Regardless, I am TRULY grateful to all who have taken the time and effort to contribute to this thread and advise a relative newbie to rifle shooting. Many thanks, guys!

 

[2Twenty3]

So don't think that getting a suppressor is going to negatively impact your accuracy. A high quality suppressor can actually make your rifle even more accurate. My TBAC Dominus on my custom hunting rifle in 6.5 CM shoots about .77 MOA with just the brake and about .63 MOA with the suppressor attached. Very minimal POI shift on/off AND it always brings the groups closer. If your are serious about precision bolt guns, you want a TBAC suppressor of some sort. They are quite literally made for that application. If TBAC is too much money, then you have other options as well to include Otter Creek's Hydrogen series cans, Diligent's Enticer Ti models, or take a look at Abel Co's offerings. If there was anything I could EVER guarantee to ANYBODY, it would be that you will not regret purchasing a good suppressor. If anything, you will regret that you didn't get one soon enough! Oh and by the way, Silencer Shop does have some Ultra 7's in 6.5 in stock right now (which almost never happens). That can would be your absolute best option for a precision rifle, and I can personally guarantee you will love it.

 

[Turkeytider]

So don't think that getting a suppressor is going to negatively impact your accuracy. A high quality suppressor can actually make your rifle even more accurate. My TBAC Dominus on my custom hunting rifle in 6.5 CM shoots about .77 MOA with just the brake and about .63 MOA with the suppressor attached. Very minimal POI shift on/off AND it always brings the groups closer. If your are serious about precision bolt guns, you want a TBAC suppressor of some sort. They are quite literally made for that application. If TBAC is too much money, then you have other options as well to include Otter Creek's Hydrogen series cans, Diligent's Enticer Ti models, or take a look at Abel Co's offerings. If there was anything I could EVER guarantee to ANYBODY, it would be that you will not regret purchasing a good suppressor. If anything, you will regret that you didn't get one soon enough! Oh and by the way, Silencer Shop does have some Ultra 7's in 6.5 in stock right now (which almost never happens). That can would be your absolute best option for a precision rifle, and I can personally guarantee you will love it.

Thanks man. In all likelihood I’ll get one. Just not sure which one.

 

[FuhQ]

Thanks man. In all likelihood I’ll get one. Just not sure which one.

The U7 is a great can, but a bit dated in design and baffle design, compared to TBAC’s newest offerings. The Otter Creek Hydrogen-S comes in a 6.5mm option, as well as 7.62 (.30 cal). It actually has more volume, and tested slightly better at the Silencer Summit, over the Ultra 7.

 

[kthomas]

You don't get a suppressor because you want to influence the precision of your system.

You get a suppressor to mitigate noise and concussion. On a precision rifle you want a precision can and mount that won't negatively effect precision.

 

[Turkeytider]

The U7 is a great can, but a bit dated in design and baffle design, compared to TBAC’s newest offerings. The Otter Creek Hydrogen-S comes in a 6.5mm option, as well as 7.62 (.30 cal). It actually has more volume, and tested slightly better at the Silencer Summit, over the Ultra 7.

The problem with a lot of these is that they are out of stock. Who knows when a company like Otter Creek, a small operation, will be able to replenish distributors like Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory? Could be days, weeks, months.

 

[FuhQ]

The problem with a lot of these is that they are out of stock. Who knows when a company like Otter Creek, a small operation, will be able to replenish distributors like Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory? Could be days, weeks, months.

TBAC, Dilligent Defense, OCL, Resilient, and many others are all relatively small operations. The problem is not that they’re small, it’s that wait times shrank to days, instead of 6 months, so now everybody (including the big guys) are trying to keep up with demand. And the only cans you see in stock at the big name retailers are either shitty, lower performance, or less-desirable. Small time guys still have some good stuff in stock, you just have to do some hard searching to find it.

 

[Turkeytider]

If I were to be where you are now, I would do things differently than what I did when I started. To put it plainly, just because a suppressor costs a lot of money does NOT make it that much better than other cans on the market that cost considerably less. The suppressors that cost a small fortune are either marked up for their name or had an insane amount of R&D that needs to be made up for. I would first look into getting a versatile .30 cal can that does not break the bank. There are a ton of good options out there that can be had for not a ton of money. I would highly recommend cans like the "Simple Man" from Resilient Suppressors, the Enticer S from Diligent Defense, or the Polonium 30 from Otter Creek Labs. These cans are really good for those who don't know what to get, but don't want to fork over a heinous amount of coin at the same time. The main thing you want to look for is a can that utilizes the "HUB" interface, or really just known as the universal mounting system. This ensures that no matter what rifle you own, as long as it has a threaded barrel you can use it without issue. Stay away from cans that are strictly direct thread or only use a very limited mounting system like SureFire. Also try to stay away from cans that are specifically meant for certain weapon systems (like flow through models, or dedicated bores less than .30), or are made from wild materials like Haynes or Inconel. Steel or Titanium are the best routes to go for a can that needs to do it all. Don't get caught up in trying to get the shortest or longest model out there, just get something in the middle and you won't be disappointed. If you do go for one extreme or the other, you will just wish you got something else. But rest assured that you will almost certainly buy another can in the future, so buy what you want and don't feel like you're tied down to just that one forever. I would also recommend buying from Silencer Shop. They make it incredibly easy and if you go to a store that has a kiosk, it simply could not be easier. Sites like Capitol Armory sound great at first, but having to mail all your info to them and waiting an additional 30 days just to have it shipped to your door is a serious pain in the ass.

Unless things have changed very recently, the only in stock suppressor of the three you mentioned is the Simple Man. Since I’m a simple man ( just ask my wife! ), and the reviews look good, that’s one of interest.

 

[2Twenty3]

Unless things have changed very recently, the only in stock suppressor of the three you mentioned is the Simple Man. Since I’m a simple man ( just ask my wife! ), and the reviews look good, that’s one of interest.

I honestly think that would not be a bad choice whatsoever. Not too pricey but still has the features you would want out of a modern suppressor. I actually talked my boss into ordering one about a month ago and he got it super quick. I was really impressed with it for a sub 500 dollar can.

 

[MonkTx]

For suppressors, look way into the future. Its a lifetime purchase, and the super varmint wont be your last rifle. Thats why a flexible mount system is valuable.

Diligent defense Enticer L(steel) is my vote. Good quality and nothing quieter for sub $600 bucks.

+1 to this. I got the enticer L-ti and absolutely love it. Now I'm looking at the Otter creek polonium 30 or the steel Enticer for a second one.

 

[Turkeytider]

+1 to this. I got the enticer L-ti and absolutely love it. Now I'm looking at the Otter creek polonium 30 or the steel Enticer for a second one.

I’m looking at those as well, but that’s about all I’m doing since I can’t find any in stock.