Brass is heavier than steel, but not by much. Tungsten.. just add a zero to the end of the price and you might get close. Also Tungsten stucks to machine.
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Any update on if the steel rails are a go?
I'm thinking the one thing of stopping steel arc rails is likely something related to the ease/accuracy of milling aluminum vs steel and that most if not all arca clamps are aluminum. Aluminum clamping/sliding on steel would not wear well................... now that is just me thinking out loud. I bet if you contacted somebody like Area 419 or KRG, directly those guys would give you a solid answer. my personal experience is they are willing to answer questions.
Marketing? Haha my guess is most aluminum rails also have a lot of lightening cuts and added machine work to keep weight down then hard coated. This steel rail is just a bar with angled cuts so not very much machine work.Unless your aluminum clamps are raw, you’re not going to need to worry about them reacting with a steel rail.
I still haven’t had my question answered about how people buying aluminum rails are paying more. More than what? Does someone a) have a steel rail on the market? and b) how is it somehow cheaper than an aluminum one?
So I already posted above how the weight of a 14" steel rail is comparable in weight to the 419 rail with all the brass weights added.Unless your aluminum clamps are raw, you’re not going to need to worry about them reacting with a steel rail.
I still haven’t had my question answered about how people buying aluminum rails are paying more. More than what? Does someone a) have a steel rail on the market? and b) how is it somehow cheaper than an aluminum one?
You think the aluminum is going to be more expensive?So I already posted above how the weight of a 14" steel rail is comparable in weight to the 419 rail with all the brass weights added.
The aluminum stock itself is going to be more expensive. Then you add extra processing steps to mill the pockets to place the weights. Then you need to make the brass weights. This is additional material that needs to be purchased and then processed. Then you need to add the cost of whatever fasteners will be used to attach the weights to the rail.
Not caring about weight, a standard steel rail would likely cost similar to aluminum. Material cost and processing would all be similar. I guess I was specifically referencing the cost of adding weight to the aluminum rail.
Probably be cheaper to make one of out $100 bills.How about a tungsten rail? Just thinking out of the box here.
Problem with that is it’s only in 14” version, which for a bravo or other krg chassis types is way to long (4”) off the front end.Area 419 has just what you are looking for. I’m getting two:
Let it all hang out huh? LolMy J Allen Arca-6 is...
...ready for it?...
...6” off the front.
This is the stuff I made. All out of a .5" x 1.5" piece of 1018.Any pics of a finished one installed? This is pretty dope stuff
Haha, welp, it was worth a try anyway.None of this stuff has helped me be a better shooter....but it does make the rifle heavier.
2.5 lbsHaha, welp, it was worth a try anyway.
What did the Arca rail weight end up being finished?
talked to bear9350 yesterday, said he just got them back from the shop and was gonna Mount one and make sure they worked with arca clampsAny updates on these?
talked to bear9350 yesterday, said he just got them back from the shop and was gonna Mount one and make sure they worked with arca clamps
Have you looked at the KRG version? It has enough mounting options that I'll be you could make it work on a LOT of things....Anybody ever come up with an steel arca option? Looking for one on a TCS
interesting. I'll give it a lookHave you looked at the KRG version? It has enough mounting options that I'll be you could make it work on a LOT of things....
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One thing to note is that for some reason, aluminum and steel have some serious holding friction when clamped together. I’m no engineer, but it seems like that combo has way more friction “lock” than aluminum on aluminum. Not sure about steel on steel…sorta doubt it.
Your post is correct as far as it goes, but the truth is that in this application, neither the aluminum nor the steel is typically uncoated. That’s one reason why aluminum fittings are always coated, to reduce the coefficient of friction and therefore galling.Must be perceived, because Al to Al has much higher friction coeff than Al to steel.
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Your post is correct as far as it goes, but the truth is that in this application, neither the aluminum nor the steel is typically uncoated. That’s one reason why aluminum fittings are always coated, to reduced the coefficient of friction and therefore galling.
This does not mean that I am argueing your point not trying to disagree, just pointing it out.
There is a steel area419 one made specifically for the tcs. You might have to get it directly through manners though. It was an option when purchasing my tcs directly through themAnybody ever come up with an steel arca option? Looking for one on a TCS