steel jacketed bullets
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A lot of your steel case ammo, such as Wolff has steel jackets to the bullet.
A lot of your steel case ammo, such as Wolff has steel jackets to the bullet.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haldir</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can I expect accelerated barrel wear when shooting ammunition with steel jackets? </div></div>
WTF? are you kidding? I cant imagine why you would do such a thing. its commonplace for steel cores to be made, but they are covered in copper and/or lead. steel jackets? I think NOT!
(so yes to your question)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haldir</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can I expect accelerated barrel wear when shooting ammunition with steel jackets? </div></div>
WTF? are you kidding? I cant imagine why you would do such a thing. its commonplace for steel cores to be made, but they are covered in copper and/or lead. steel jackets? I think NOT!
(so yes to your question)
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CharlieTN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A lot of your steel case ammo, such as Wolff has steel jackets to the bullet.
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You mean steel core right? I've never seen a steel jacket.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CharlieTN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A lot of your steel case ammo, such as Wolff has steel jackets to the bullet.
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You mean steel core right? I've never seen a steel jacket.
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My understanding is that they don't cause any appreciable difference in barrel wear, but I'd wager that it also depends heavily on the caliber and particular loading.
My understanding is that they don't cause any appreciable difference in barrel wear, but I'd wager that it also depends heavily on the caliber and particular loading.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SRT Supply</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My understanding is that they don't cause any appreciable difference in barrel wear, but I'd wager that it also depends heavily on the caliber and particular loading. </div></div>
I just found some surplus that shoots real well but they are steel jacketed loads.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SRT Supply</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My understanding is that they don't cause any appreciable difference in barrel wear, but I'd wager that it also depends heavily on the caliber and particular loading. </div></div>
I just found some surplus that shoots real well but they are steel jacketed loads.
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Check the second paragraph.
The author used a hardness tester to compare the hardness of several steel jacketed bullets to copper jacketed bullets and found the steel to be softer. Steel jackets also resulted in lower pressures.
There is a lot of mis-information regarding steel jacketed bullets flowing around out there.
For one, steel jacketed bullets were not copper washed to prevent damage to the bore, they were copper washed primarily to prevent rust, just as many of the steel cases are.
http://yarchive.net/gun/engraving_force.html
Check the second paragraph.
The author used a hardness tester to compare the hardness of several steel jacketed bullets to copper jacketed bullets and found the steel to be softer. Steel jackets also resulted in lower pressures.
There is a lot of mis-information regarding steel jacketed bullets flowing around out there.
For one, steel jacketed bullets were not copper washed to prevent damage to the bore, they were copper washed primarily to prevent rust, just as many of the steel cases are.
http://yarchive.net/gun/engraving_force.html
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Steel jackets put on quite a light show when shot out of an uzi at a steel bullet trap, sparks everywhere just like hollywood. I'm sure that fdkay is right steel can be made soft not all steel is hard.
Steel jackets put on quite a light show when shot out of an uzi at a steel bullet trap, sparks everywhere just like hollywood. I'm sure that fdkay is right steel can be made soft not all steel is hard.
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Lake City M80 ball is steel cased,lead core, M62 tracer is steel cased, Winchester white box 7.62 Q3130 is steel cased,lead core. It's all copper plated so it looks like gilding metal, but it aint.
Lake City M80 ball is steel cased,lead core, M62 tracer is steel cased, Winchester white box 7.62 Q3130 is steel cased,lead core. It's all copper plated so it looks like gilding metal, but it aint.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check the second paragraph.
The author used a hardness tester to compare the hardness of several steel jacketed bullets to copper jacketed bullets and found the steel to be softer. Steel jackets also resulted in lower pressures.
There is a lot of mis-information regarding steel jacketed bullets flowing around out there.
For one, steel jacketed bullets were not copper washed to prevent damage to the bore, they were copper washed primarily to prevent rust, just as many of the steel cases are.
http://yarchive.net/gun/engraving_force.html </div></div>
Thanks to everyone.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check the second paragraph.
The author used a hardness tester to compare the hardness of several steel jacketed bullets to copper jacketed bullets and found the steel to be softer. Steel jackets also resulted in lower pressures.
There is a lot of mis-information regarding steel jacketed bullets flowing around out there.
For one, steel jacketed bullets were not copper washed to prevent damage to the bore, they were copper washed primarily to prevent rust, just as many of the steel cases are.
http://yarchive.net/gun/engraving_force.html </div></div>
Thanks to everyone.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: razzle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beware of health risks with steel jackets, atleast in semiauto rifles. You don't wanna breathe in the fumes, I know this all too well.. </div></div>
Eh? No worse than cutting/grinding steel.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: razzle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beware of health risks with steel jackets, atleast in semiauto rifles. You don't wanna breathe in the fumes, I know this all too well.. </div></div>
Eh? No worse than cutting/grinding steel.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AUJohn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: razzle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beware of health risks with steel jackets, atleast in semiauto rifles. You don't wanna breathe in the fumes, I know this all too well.. </div></div>
Eh? No worse than cutting/grinding steel. </div></div>
Perhaps not, but I've never experienced nausea and severe headaches from cutting steel..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AUJohn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: razzle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beware of health risks with steel jackets, atleast in semiauto rifles. You don't wanna breathe in the fumes, I know this all too well.. </div></div>
Eh? No worse than cutting/grinding steel. </div></div>
Perhaps not, but I've never experienced nausea and severe headaches from cutting steel..
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There are many steel jacked bullets. Yes There is a difference in steel core and steel jacket. Steel jacket will shoot fine. If I remember S&B ammo is steal with copper was. I will magnet check some at the shop today, as is much surplus in many calibers (not all). These are ref. to as bimetal jacket. if you reload you can get these pulled bullets cheaper cause most people do not know what to make of them.Get them and get some extra trigger time.
George
There are many steel jacked bullets. Yes There is a difference in steel core and steel jacket. Steel jacket will shoot fine. If I remember S&B ammo is steal with copper was. I will magnet check some at the shop today, as is much surplus in many calibers (not all). These are ref. to as bimetal jacket. if you reload you can get these pulled bullets cheaper cause most people do not know what to make of them.Get them and get some extra trigger time.
George
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Perhaps not, but I've never experienced nausea and severe headaches from cutting steel.. [/quote]
I would really like to learn more about this. Is it possible that the nausea and headache were caused by something in the powder fumes, rather than the bullet? I would be more likely to understand the fumes from burning powder causing these issues. I have heard that some lots of Eastern Bloc ammo smell really funny when they are fired...
Perhaps not, but I've never experienced nausea and severe headaches from cutting steel.. [/quote]
I would really like to learn more about this. Is it possible that the nausea and headache were caused by something in the powder fumes, rather than the bullet? I would be more likely to understand the fumes from burning powder causing these issues. I have heard that some lots of Eastern Bloc ammo smell really funny when they are fired...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would really like to learn more about this. Is it possible that the nausea and headache were caused by something in the powder fumes, rather than the bullet? I would be more likely to understand the fumes from burning powder causing these issues. I have heard that some lots of Eastern Bloc ammo smell really funny when they are fired... </div></div>
Can't say for sure if the jacket was to blame, but I haven't experienced it with any other ammo from this or any other manufacturer. When I was in the service my unit and several others were testing out this steel jacketed ammo, and this happened to many of us. We assumed the jacket was to blame, but could never confirm it scientifically..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would really like to learn more about this. Is it possible that the nausea and headache were caused by something in the powder fumes, rather than the bullet? I would be more likely to understand the fumes from burning powder causing these issues. I have heard that some lots of Eastern Bloc ammo smell really funny when they are fired... </div></div>
Can't say for sure if the jacket was to blame, but I haven't experienced it with any other ammo from this or any other manufacturer. When I was in the service my unit and several others were testing out this steel jacketed ammo, and this happened to many of us. We assumed the jacket was to blame, but could never confirm it scientifically..
