Stiller vs. Seekins Lower

[Hondo64d]

I put together an AR with a Stiller Precision Predator XT lower that I am very pleased with, but am wondering how the Seekins SP 223 Gen 2 lower stacks up against the Stiller.

Anyone used both?

John

 

[ORD]

They are both of exceptionally high quality and backed by folks who you can count on if, God forbid, something goes awry and you need CS in a rush.

That said, having used both, I prefer the Seekins thanks to the Ambi-bolt release, overall ergos/fit/finish, elimination of all the @#$%ing roll pins and relocation/captivation of the takedown pin spring/detent, and the appearance of the Seekins lower which just seems "cleaner" to me than the Stiller lowers. I will say that I think that the Stiller lowers are likely a bit more "bombproof" in terms of their overall design/construction/materials, but that's from purely my observation...I don't think that in 99.9% of the uses where either lower/rifle/carbine will be fielded will make an ounce of difference in their ability to withstand heavy use/abuse over many years of enjoyment.

Again...I absolutely don't think you can go wrong with either one for a high quality product, but the edge goes to Seekins for me.

 

[Hondo64d]

Thanks for the response. Any compatibility issues with the Seekins and Vltor MUR upper?

John

 

[ORD]

Thanks for the response. Any compatibility issues with the Seekins and Vltor MUR upper?

John

I have not had the opportunity to test ANY Vltor upper with a Seekins lower so I can't comment on any compatibility issues, however, I don't foresee it being an issue as I have seen Seekins lower run with all manner of different uppers and haven't noted any incompatible models thus far.

Drop Glen a PM or shoot the Seekins team an e-mail and inquire about that issue if that's a direction you are thinking of going...they are generally spot on top of comms! I've never waited more than 48hrs MAX for a response from Glen or one of his folks in the business...they are truly a living testament to what embodies CUSTOMER service!!

 

[jasonfaz]

The only issue I've seen with this combo is the poor fit of the seekins left side bolt catch into the milled slot in the Vltor upper. The MUR-1A was designed with enough clearance to accommodate a standard bolt catch. That said, this is a minor problem if not entirely aesthetic. Even though there was a bunch of grinding in this area, there was - surprisingly - no detrimental effect on the weapon's operation. For me, it was worth it to go but a seekins upper just for the purpose of concentricity. You could always remedy this by simply replacing Seekins' billet bolt catch with a standard catch as well.

 

[jasonfaz]

Here's an example.... Not a Seekins lower, but an N4 with the std catch replaced with a Seekins. After about 6 months i had cleared all Cerakote from behind the catch on the upper receiver...