Stock to chassis and back?
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i still have both, the only reason i still have a non chassis is:
fathers old 30-06 mod 70
mauser
light weight hunting rifle
if i could get a chassis the same weight as a thin light stock i would never buy a regular stock again.
one main reason is i dont like keeping my thumb on the same side, i like to wrap it over
once i grabbed the thumbhole of a AI yeas ago i was hooked.
just feels more natural for my body.
some of the "best" stocks like a A5, have the grip to vertical for my liking.
fathers old 30-06 mod 70
mauser
light weight hunting rifle
if i could get a chassis the same weight as a thin light stock i would never buy a regular stock again.
one main reason is i dont like keeping my thumb on the same side, i like to wrap it over
once i grabbed the thumbhole of a AI yeas ago i was hooked.
just feels more natural for my body.
some of the "best" stocks like a A5, have the grip to vertical for my liking.
Same here. First real rifle I used was an AI and the thumbhole thing never really crossed my mind until I started using it, then found I strongly preferred normal stocks.
Yes and yes.
AI to Manners to KRG to MPA currently.
All these tools did the job fine.
There are some deficiencies in some chassis designs that are going to be fixed soon...
R
AI to Manners to KRG to MPA currently.
All these tools did the job fine.
There are some deficiencies in some chassis designs that are going to be fixed soon...
R
Yep I tried the chassis thing. Bought 2 ran them for over a year (few thousand rounds) and then went back to McMillan. I just like the feeling of stocks better. Yes the chassis’s are more modular and fit adjustment is easier. But I felt like I was hugging a random chunk of metal. I just melt into my McMillan stocks. Totally subjective.
Nothing like a pistol grip to fend recoil.....but I still prefer a stock. I have an MPA and I just can’t warm to it. I can get comfortable on it and I think for a novice shooter it helps with fundamentals.
I’ve yet to try a KMW sentinel but it’s on my list for next. As of right now the Foundation Exodus is most favorite stock
I’ve yet to try a KMW sentinel but it’s on my list for next. As of right now the Foundation Exodus is most favorite stock
Negative.
Went from McM A5's to JAE chassis's and never looked back. Q
Pro's to chassis's, and specifically JAE:
- No need to bed. Can take barreled action in and out of chassis with no POI shift.
- Out of the box adjustability - cheek piece height adjustment (and it actually stays put once adjusted, unlike the McM cheek pieces), LOP (though not rapid with JAE), etc
- Can adjust mag well and seating height to accommodate different mags and optimize the mag system for your setup
- Excellent accessory support from OEM (ARCA rails, picatinny rails, NV bridges, bag riders)
- comfy AF. While this is subjective, I think the JAE is comfier than anything else out there, stock or chassis
I got sick of all the work that needs to go into a stock if you want to change anything up. Decide to change or upgrade actions? Take it to a gunsmith to tear out and re-bed the chassis. Want to add an ARCA rail? Take it to a gunsmith for stock work. NV bridge? Gunsmith. Need more QD flush cups for slings? Take it to a gunsmith.
Chassis's are plug and play, and are versatile right out of the box. I have no need to go back to a traditional fiberglass stock, though I still have a McM A5 stock on a TacOps rifle. I've also got a KRG Bravo chassis for the wife's rifle, and I've been really impressed with that chassis as well.
To each their own, but overall I believe chassis's provide much more value for the money than traditional stocks do. If a chassis isn't comfortable enough for you, you just haven't found the right chassis.
Went from McM A5's to JAE chassis's and never looked back. Q
Pro's to chassis's, and specifically JAE:
- No need to bed. Can take barreled action in and out of chassis with no POI shift.
- Out of the box adjustability - cheek piece height adjustment (and it actually stays put once adjusted, unlike the McM cheek pieces), LOP (though not rapid with JAE), etc
- Can adjust mag well and seating height to accommodate different mags and optimize the mag system for your setup
- Excellent accessory support from OEM (ARCA rails, picatinny rails, NV bridges, bag riders)
- comfy AF. While this is subjective, I think the JAE is comfier than anything else out there, stock or chassis
I got sick of all the work that needs to go into a stock if you want to change anything up. Decide to change or upgrade actions? Take it to a gunsmith to tear out and re-bed the chassis. Want to add an ARCA rail? Take it to a gunsmith for stock work. NV bridge? Gunsmith. Need more QD flush cups for slings? Take it to a gunsmith.
Chassis's are plug and play, and are versatile right out of the box. I have no need to go back to a traditional fiberglass stock, though I still have a McM A5 stock on a TacOps rifle. I've also got a KRG Bravo chassis for the wife's rifle, and I've been really impressed with that chassis as well.
To each their own, but overall I believe chassis's provide much more value for the money than traditional stocks do. If a chassis isn't comfortable enough for you, you just haven't found the right chassis.
When I got into LR shooting about 6 years ago I started with a chassis and have owned several since then. I had never used anything like a McM/Manners. I recently sold my MPA and went to a Manners. It's light and has a nice feel. Well it did anyways until I put a full length Arca rail on it, now it has sharp jagged edges. Value/dollar its not even close, a chassis gives you everything you need without having to dick around with bottom metal, etc. It really just comes down to feel. I have a feeling I'll move back to a chassis one of these days.
I've went back & forth w/ this conundrum over the years. I've always liked the vertical grip on stocks such as the Manners T4 & McMillan A5. I spend most of my time shooting an A5 these days as it fits me well. I've got an adjustable comb & LOP, but I'd really like the features of a 3-way butt-stock like the AIAX. The simple answer is to buy the chassis, right? It's not that simple; I don't like the vertical grip AI offers in the AT or AX. I wish that Manners or McMillan would offer a new & improved 3-way adjustable butt in their stocks. That would really simplify things.
I like the MPA Comp chassis too. Their vertical grip is very comfortable so that is an option as well.
I like the MPA Comp chassis too. Their vertical grip is very comfortable so that is an option as well.
started with an AI years ago. went to KRG, then MPA comp. manners should arrive next week (ordered after shooting one once). we'll see if it replaces the MPA full time
lusting after a JAE (felt one up once), but don't know if i'll get one until I do a 300PRC or 7mm variant in a long action
lusting after a JAE (felt one up once), but don't know if i'll get one until I do a 300PRC or 7mm variant in a long action
JAE is my favorite. I believe it is considered a chassis but to me it is the the most stock like chassis out there. When I first purchased it from Surgeon Rifles years ago they called it a hybrid. Started with and still have 2 Manners stocks but don't grab them as often. JAE is expensive but that is the nature of the game.
I dont like pistol grips on rifles. Any chassis that has one is out as far as i am concerned. That basically leaves me only two options which are krg bravo and a JAE chassis. I have never seen a bravo in person. I have handled a JAE and would probably like it but I will never spend the money on one.
I’ve shot both but have not owned a chassis. Honestly I like both but there is something about a manners stock that feels so right... it is all about feel as with a lot of this “sport”. But the ppl before me nailed it by saying you melt into the stock...ordered my second manners last month and seriously can’t wait
I've tried a couple of metal stocks but didn't really like them. I'm old and set in my ways. My last three stocks have been McMillan A-5s with three way adjustable butt plates, adjustable cheek rests (not the sliding plastic saddle) and accessory rails. Fit is not an issue which is exactly why I spec'd the stocks that way.
Now a stalking rifle is an entirely different critter and I would never use a non traditional stock style for field hunting. Just too much crap to get hung up with in the brush. I prefer a McMillan Sako Varminter for the profile and thin wrist, or even my traditional factory Winchester '70 wood stocks ('57 and earlier).
I suppose if I was say thirty of forty years younger and played run and gun games maybe a metal stock would make sense, but I'm not and I don't.
Now a stalking rifle is an entirely different critter and I would never use a non traditional stock style for field hunting. Just too much crap to get hung up with in the brush. I prefer a McMillan Sako Varminter for the profile and thin wrist, or even my traditional factory Winchester '70 wood stocks ('57 and earlier).
I suppose if I was say thirty of forty years younger and played run and gun games maybe a metal stock would make sense, but I'm not and I don't.
Let's leave hunting rifles out of the conversation - I think most folks prefer a traditional stock for this.
Now for competition rigs.....(as a reference I shoot NRA HighPower)
I've got an FN SPR with a McMillan A5, a BigHorn TL3 in a JAE-700 chassis and an Eliseo Tube gun with a Defiance Mutant action.
Rapid fire is much easier with the A5 and the JAE-700. Bolt manipulation starts sooner and the hand returns home easier. The one advantage that the Eliseo has is the butt stock adjustability for standing. The ability of the Eliseo to offset the gun makes standing so much easier.
My best average practice scores have been shot with the JAE-700 despite the lack of an adjustable butt stock or even butt plate.
I love my Eliseo. Gary makes great products and gives even better customer service. But my personal preference is for a stock.
Now for competition rigs.....(as a reference I shoot NRA HighPower)
I've got an FN SPR with a McMillan A5, a BigHorn TL3 in a JAE-700 chassis and an Eliseo Tube gun with a Defiance Mutant action.
Rapid fire is much easier with the A5 and the JAE-700. Bolt manipulation starts sooner and the hand returns home easier. The one advantage that the Eliseo has is the butt stock adjustability for standing. The ability of the Eliseo to offset the gun makes standing so much easier.
My best average practice scores have been shot with the JAE-700 despite the lack of an adjustable butt stock or even butt plate.
I love my Eliseo. Gary makes great products and gives even better customer service. But my personal preference is for a stock.
