Strange Leupold scope

[USMCSGT0331]

I was digging through one of my safes and found this scope. It's a Leupold scope that was modified by Premier Reticles for some type of target shooting (maybe something called running boar?). I can't remember where or when I got it, the only reason I purchased it was because it looks so strange.

The reticle consists of 2 posts, each of which is independently adjusted by its own set of elevation/windage knobs. The original knobs on the turret housing aren't connected to anything, all adjustments are made on the new sets of knobs. Does anyone have any information on this scope?

Too bad it doesn't have a long eye relief, otherwise it might be kinda cool to mount on one of these pistols, lol:

 

[powdahound76]

Oddest.

But cool freak piece.

Interested to see the answers.

 

[USMCSGT0331]

Just did some searching on Google, apparently it's for the 10m Running Target airgun competition. I also found a video on the dual reticle posts in use:



Has anyone on here ever shot the 10m Running Target match or have used one of these scopes?

 

[sinister]

I was the Commander at the USAMU when the Olympics announced they were dropping 10 Meter Running Boar as a shooting sport. Very sad day for a number of the shooters who would go on to different disciplines.

"Ha ha, BB gun shooter. What else can you do?"

Former 2nd Ranger Battalion sniper, Sergeant First Class Lance Dement was Triple Distinguished -- Rifle, Pistol, and Olympic (Running Target). He went on to win the 2006 President's Rifle Match (the "President's Hundred") at the National Matches at Camp Perry, Ohio.

His wife Joetta was our reenlistment NCO and an Olympic Shotgun shooter.

 

[sinister]

The two separate posts in your scope are for left- and right-running leads. The targets come from behind the right and left walls in direct runs, at slow and medium speed.

It's like skeet, but with a rifle.

I believe it was originally fired with centerfire rifles, outside, at further distance (50 and 25 Meters?), then .22s, then indoors with air rifles. The discipline was so modified over time it just went away. Maybe because of popularity, ranges closing, and gals didn't shoot it?

The USAMU outdoors running target range has been modified to shoot rifles (including M4s) and for Bianchi Cup.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Very cool thread!

Vintage never disappoints for the cool new stuff that shows up here. And by that I mean old stuff.

Awesome!

Sirhr

 

[TorF]

50m Running Boar. It is still my main event with app 10000 rounds downrange every year just to see what age do to my body..
Used to train one week a year some years in the '80'ies with US Shooting Team. Some of them were Vietnam vets ( and one of them had a picture of himself in Vietnam, in uniform, in a trench, with a scoped heavy barreled Rem700LA in 25-06. Never forget that.)
My shooting buddy was the last Olympic 50m Champ in the '88 Seoul, South Korea games.
The 10m event is EXTREMELY challanging, That's why there are so few shooters.
My rifle and range:

And here's my buddy shooting the first Olympic moving target event: 100m Running Deer Doubles:

Rifle is Husqvarna 1900 Sporter, 222rem. Lead is app 20moa.


Running Deer at the 1920 Olympics Antwerpen:

 

[USMCSGT0331]

Thanks for posting, gentlemen! The depth of knowledge here in the vintage section is absolutely amazing! It seems like a single gun part or scope always transforms into an entire build, so that might be the case with this Leupold. Now I have to decide on a rifle and try to find a local place that might have one of these running target devices.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

In High School, I used to shoot "Running Deer" at a local range. It was crude... sort of a clothes line with an outline of a deer and the vitals marked out. 5, 3, 1 points for hits in various places. They were done as 50-50 shoots. Two shots at target. So put in two dollars... winner gets half the pot for that round.

My senior year in High School I won so many rounds... that I paid for a new deer rifle. I shot a Winchester 94 in 30-30. Open sights. And still can remember hearing the constant calls of "Five... Five..." from the guy scoring targets.

Five... Five. Five... Five... every time I got between 15 and 20 dollars... For me, the trick was shooting for the spine, because it was narrow elevation wise but long. And at 100 yards... easy to hit on elevation, but windage didn't matter much. So who cared how fast the 'deer' silhouette was moving. I could hit the spine every time.

The guys shooting at Olympic level and stuff... that is some hard core shooting! Movers are always tough. Especially at distance. Wind, mirage, distance... and moving! That's the varsity right there. I was just a woodchuck with a deer rifle at 100. The real shooters at this game are world class!

Again, great thread.

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

From my high school senior yearbook... They chopped the rifle out of one side... and the dead fisher out of the other.

But I made "Class Woodchuck". Which is pretty funny given my life's trajectory...

Never under-estimate country kids... or Blue Collar Kids.

Sirhr

 

[TorF]

Back to the Leupold scope in the first post.
It looks like a 4x scope for 10m airrifle.

If possible on the Premier, DO NOT let the posts cross the centerline with the windage knobs.

To zero the scope on a rifle adjust the post tips as close as possible to the center in the field of view. The posts MUST NOT touch each other! There should be "light" between the posts. Now you can zero the rifle using the regular target turrets with the bullet zeroing on target between the post tips.

The rifle is now zeroed on a stationary target ( like a rifle/scope with a regular post no.1 reticle.)

For a moving target do as follows:
Locate lead point on the target were you need to aim with a regular reticle. On a 10m airrifle that might be 2" in front of the X-ring, 2" lead.
At 2" in front of the X-ring there might not be an aiming point on the target. Depends on what target you use. If there is no aiming point there mark it 2" (or whatever) in front of the X-ring both left and right

Use the "moving target frame" with 2" marked aimingpoints and set it up on a stationary range. Use sandbags front and rear on the rifle and line the zeroed rifle to the marked aiming point.

Now, figure out on the running boar/rat/deer target where it is easiest to aim/sight. On the official 50m running boar target that is between the nose and the tooth/tusk. ( lead, marked aimingpoint, on 50m with std vel match ammo is 5cm below the eye)

With the rifle zeroed on the marked aimingpoint adjust the front/first post to the easiest sighting point (on the boar between the nose and tooth/tusk)
You have to do this in both left and right as the target moves both ways.


An then there is an easy way to do it.
If the X-ring is clearly visible line up the rifle to the lead point and adjust the rear post to sight/aim at the X-ring.
Trouble with this on a paper target is that the X-ring will disappear after a few shots..

 

[ZG47A]

Takes a while to run people through a 50 meter Running Boar layout, even if you have a two position setup (for easy changeover of shooters) and a crew of two in the butts. You would need two Running Boar ranges (side by side, with central axes about 50 metres apart; and a suitable barrier in between) if you want to put more than half a dozen shooters through a match of an afternoon and … get them all to come back the next month for a repeat. The same would apply for Running Deer. I ran a NZDA Range Complex for 14 years, with the help of other people and I speak from experience.
Great fun and highly educational for bush stalking and pest control practice.

 

[slm9s]

As of a couple years ago they still have "running deer" monthly shoots at a range here in Western WA. Cardboard cutout of a deer going across the range. Any centerfire rifle IIRC.

 

[sinister]

I don't think there is anything like running target that could be better for training close-in immediate action with a rifle -- regardless of caliber.

One of my favorite clips of real-life running target action. Bolt guns, no magnification red dot. 308 and 7mm Magnum hunting rifles:

 

[TorF]

Takes a while to run people through a 50 meter Running Boar layout, even if you have a two position setup (for easy changeover of shooters) and a crew of two in the butts. You would need two Running Boar ranges (side by side, with central axes about 50 metres apart; and a suitable barrier in between) if you want to put more than half a dozen shooters through a match of an afternoon and … get them all to come back the next month for a repeat. The same would apply for Running Deer. I ran a NZDA Range Complex for 14 years, with the help of other people and I speak from experience.
Great fun and highly educational for bush stalking and pest control practice.

We have two 50m running boar ranges side by side and two 100m running deer ranges side by side.
All ranges have two position setup and MegaLink electronic targets so there are no pit duty.
On the boar ranges we can get app 20 shooters through shooting 20+20 mixed runs and 30 slow runs + 30 fast runs in one day from app 1000am to 1600pm.

 

[ZG47A]

We have two 50m running boar ranges side by side and two 100m running deer ranges side by side.
All ranges have two position setup and MegaLink electronic targets so there are no pit duty.
On the boar ranges we can get app 20 shooters through shooting 20+20 mixed runs and 30 slow runs + 30 fast runs in one day from app 1000am to 1600pm.

Jealous, much!