Any experience out there with the 308/Cyclone and Trail Boss sub-sonic loadings? Yes, I understand the instructions say no subsonic ammunition and only factory FMJ is recommended. Just curious if someone has been there and done that with any success.
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Suppressors SUB-SONIC / CYCLONE AND TRAIL BOSS LOADINGS ?
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Re: SUB-SONIC / CYCLONE AND TRAIL BOSS LOADINGS ?
Take a look in the reloading section, there are tons of recipe's for sub loads. Me personally I like Hornady 180gr RN behind 10.6gr of TB. They stabilize well out of 20" barrel.
I would suggest that when you do development, leave the suppressor off and use a chrony to get your velocity. Also work down with your loads. Once you get your velocity where you want it, shoot some 25yd targets and look for keyholes. If you are GTG, slap on the suppressor and have fun.
Take a look in the reloading section, there are tons of recipe's for sub loads. Me personally I like Hornady 180gr RN behind 10.6gr of TB. They stabilize well out of 20" barrel.
I would suggest that when you do development, leave the suppressor off and use a chrony to get your velocity. Also work down with your loads. Once you get your velocity where you want it, shoot some 25yd targets and look for keyholes. If you are GTG, slap on the suppressor and have fun.
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i noticed you said 25 yards. what is the longest distance to use a sub load ? i tried mine at 50 yards and would like to go to 100
i noticed you said 25 yards. what is the longest distance to use a sub load ? i tried mine at 50 yards and would like to go to 100
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25 yards is just to make sure your load is not keyholing (tumbling) through the target. If you have keyholing on the target you will incur a baffle strike on the can. That just sucks. That is why I always work my load and check before attaching my can.
That being said, I have shot my subs out to 200 yards at paper, but you have to remember; your pushing a 180gr bullet at 1050 FPS to keep the SB from cracking. It is not going to do much on the practical side. It is pretty much a "Hey look at me I'm cool" toy. It does get attention at the range with folks that aren't use to hearing suppressed rifles.
25 yards is just to make sure your load is not keyholing (tumbling) through the target. If you have keyholing on the target you will incur a baffle strike on the can. That just sucks. That is why I always work my load and check before attaching my can.
That being said, I have shot my subs out to 200 yards at paper, but you have to remember; your pushing a 180gr bullet at 1050 FPS to keep the SB from cracking. It is not going to do much on the practical side. It is pretty much a "Hey look at me I'm cool" toy. It does get attention at the range with folks that aren't use to hearing suppressed rifles.
Re: SUB-SONIC / CYCLONE AND TRAIL BOSS LOADINGS ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">25 yards is just to make sure your load is not keyholing (tumbling) through the target. If you have keyholing on the target you will incur a baffle strike on the can. That just sucks. That is why I always work my load and check before attaching my can.
That being said, I have shot my subs out to 200 yards at paper, but you have to remember; your pushing a 180gr bullet at 1050 FPS to keep the SB from cracking. It is not going to do much on the practical side. It is pretty much a "Hey look at me I'm cool" toy. It does get attention at the range with folks that aren't use to hearing suppressed rifles.</div></div>
+1 on that..be very careful with this process and take your time. The worst thing is going to be a baffle strike. That can be very costly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">25 yards is just to make sure your load is not keyholing (tumbling) through the target. If you have keyholing on the target you will incur a baffle strike on the can. That just sucks. That is why I always work my load and check before attaching my can.
That being said, I have shot my subs out to 200 yards at paper, but you have to remember; your pushing a 180gr bullet at 1050 FPS to keep the SB from cracking. It is not going to do much on the practical side. It is pretty much a "Hey look at me I'm cool" toy. It does get attention at the range with folks that aren't use to hearing suppressed rifles.</div></div>
+1 on that..be very careful with this process and take your time. The worst thing is going to be a baffle strike. That can be very costly.
Re: SUB-SONIC / CYCLONE AND TRAIL BOSS LOADINGS ?
There is a practical use for the sub-sonics. Hog eradicating using my AR47 762x39 with 220gr RN and 200gr SP and even more with my 300 Fire Ball. with 220gr RN and 200gr SP. Using suppressed I have got 3 hogs our of 1 group and taking my time. It is quite exzilerating standing in the middle of a group in the dark.
There is a practical use for the sub-sonics. Hog eradicating using my AR47 762x39 with 220gr RN and 200gr SP and even more with my 300 Fire Ball. with 220gr RN and 200gr SP. Using suppressed I have got 3 hogs our of 1 group and taking my time. It is quite exzilerating standing in the middle of a group in the dark.
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I've used Hornaday 150 interlocks with 9.3 gr of trailboss, they work great for me, but my preferred load is a hornaday 220 rn with 10.5 gr of clays, I've shot out to 300 yds with those.
I've used Hornaday 150 interlocks with 9.3 gr of trailboss, they work great for me, but my preferred load is a hornaday 220 rn with 10.5 gr of clays, I've shot out to 300 yds with those.
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That is a lot of up for 300yds! I have not tried 300yds with my bolt gun yet. My ARs have took most of my time, but now looking towards a .458 Socom Bolt Gun.
That is a lot of up for 300yds! I have not tried 300yds with my bolt gun yet. My ARs have took most of my time, but now looking towards a .458 Socom Bolt Gun.
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It is, it takes around 38 moa if I remember correctly.
It is, it takes around 38 moa if I remember correctly.
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I loaded 10gr TB with 168gr bullet for a friend. he wanted the bullets upside down to help prevent the bullet from key holing. I have seen other post on loading the bullet point down.
I loaded 10gr TB with 168gr bullet for a friend. he wanted the bullets upside down to help prevent the bullet from key holing. I have seen other post on loading the bullet point down.
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The only reason for loading backwards is mismatch of bullet for the twist. As for as keyholing, it is nice for them to come out the cavity that way after yawing. It does a lot of damage, I have some pics, you would be surprized.
The only reason for loading backwards is mismatch of bullet for the twist. As for as keyholing, it is nice for them to come out the cavity that way after yawing. It does a lot of damage, I have some pics, you would be surprized.
