Like the title says I'm looking for a smith to true a 700 action. The only one local to me has over a year backlog.
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Join the contest SubscribeEvery smith I've talked to has said they won't rebarrel a 700 unless they true the action as well.Skip the blueprint, save your money, and just put a decent barrel on it, and have the bolt timed (TIG welded too if you want). Only exception to that rule is if one of the lugs isn't contacting the receiver at all. The timed handle will make it run as smooth as it's going to, the rest is almost entirely bullshit.
Capacity for precision lies in proper bedding, proper sighting, barrels, bullets, and powder.
Every smith I've talked to has said they won't rebarrel a 700 unless they true the action as well.
Actually, it would be like installing a new tire on a bent wheel and risking the customer coming back because of a shake and blaming your tire install. Then risking the angry customer not accepting the wheel is bent and motherfucking you and your work on the internet for all to see.Hmm. Not a bad idea... Maybe I'll start a tire shop and force customers to get wheel bearing replacements when they want a new set of tires mounted and balanced.
I mean....thats one way to turn a $500 job into a $1000 job....
Actually, it would be like installing a new tire on a bent wheel and risking the customer coming back because of a shake and blaming your tire install. Then risking the angry customer not accepting the wheel is bent and motherfucking you and your work on the internet for all to see.
This game is about eliminating variables and customer satisfaction.
Ern
You put too much faith in Remington.Try having a delusional fear of a shake occurring because you installed tires on factory wheels that you didn't cut on.
It might not make enough difference for your average tactical shooter to be able to tell.Does straightness = accuracy though?
I've not shot a factory 700 that wouldn't at least shoot 1MOA....most generally ~ .75moa .....hell, my current rig is a factory barrel action in an HS stock shooting .6 MOA with 175gr FGMM...
If a trued action is adding any accuracy.....it's not adding much.
Not to beat a dead horse.....that we have all taken a swing at over the years.Presumably if there is a " risk" of poor accuracy on an untrued action....there must be evidence to support that, right?
What proof is there a "messed up" action causes accuracy issues?
One would think that if there were any substantial evidence of inaccuracy...you'd see that reflected in factory rifles...
if untrued actions cause accuracy issues, how are factory rifles shooting .75 moa without difficulty?
also, why is no one truing savage or tika actions?
Not to beat a dead horse.....that we have all taken a swing at over the years.
If you are basing customer satisfaction on .75 moa......(3/4" @100yd and holding that moa beyond 100yds)......that is your first mistake. I've had customers complain their rifle doesn't shoot .25moa with ALL AMMO.
Having said that.....most of us understand that 90% of a rifle's accuracy comes from barrel quality and barrel fitment.
Can you grind off one bolt lug on a rem700 and put a good barrel on it and get it to shoot......probably......is it right? Is it the sign of quality workmanship and high standards?
There are a lot of times in life redneckery and halfassing can make something work.....but there is the correct way to do it.....and more often than not it is more expensive to re-do it.
What happens when your untrued action doesn't shoot well? Do you true it and blow your headspace and oversize the action threads compared to the original barrel threads? Or do you motherfuck the barrel maker or builder? Do you ask the builder to eat the re-do work because you went the cheapskate option and it didn't work out?
As a builder there is a reason we prefer to use more expensive top quality parts......it minimizes a bad customer experience and a shit ton of non-billable hours on our part trying to remedy the issue.
Can you luck out and get a $60 green mountain barrel blank that shoots .25moa......maybe......am I going to guarantee that......HELL NO.
To answer your quantifiable inaccuracies of the rem700......lets see here.....tapered tenon threads, uneven bolt lug/seat contact, bolt face receiver face non perpendicular to bolt centerline, recoil lug thickness variance, scope base holes drilled off from action centerline, etc.
FYI - aftermarket actions exist for a reason......clearly some people think its worth it.
Congratulations you are satisfied with a rem700. Some guys are satisfied with a New England handi rifle in 45-70........
Ern
Phoenix Custom Rifles
He did two complete builds using 700 actions. Their work is as good as any of the big names.