Not that I have heard.This is fantastic news, any chatter about making a 35mm version?
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Not that I have heard.This is fantastic news, any chatter about making a 35mm version?
Mine would be the other in the wild!I'll try to add a few more details based on my use.
I know of at least 1 other SY-Cii that they have made since mine and I think it's currently available as special order.
I can confirm the 18x. These things are no joke. I have an Eotech ClipIR-xELR and it's debatable if there is 3x the money difference between the two. It depends on your priorities.
Gun profiles 1 and 2 position the icons along the edge of the screen for low power scopes. Profiles 3&4 move the icons in farther so they remain visible at higher magnifications. 2.5x is still ideal without cutting the screen off and loosing FOV.
When I ordered a QD mount for mine, it came with an accordion style light suppressor that can double as an eyepiece. The new model can still be used as a scanner if you absolutely have to. There is just no magnification built into the fixed eyepiece so you're looking at a very small, very high definition screen. It is far from ideal, but will work in a pinch.
@kirsch I know you're not a clip-on fan, but if you get a chance to try the new model, jump on it. I loaned it to a buddy who bought it from me last week. Side by side, it produced a better image than his Super Yoter-R.
It is. As it should be. (5.5* FOV vs 8.8) I was impressed that there wasn't more difference.But side by side with the UTC xii and ELR, it's blown out of the water for telling what's what quickly vs watching how something moves to get "PID".
If I had known that the new Eotech was actually a MK1.5 with a replacement coming in a matter of months, I may have used the SY-Cii for a year before upgrading also.Overall I'm happy with it, but I'll also be upgrading to the newer ELR that's coming out because it's nice enough to do so for the price.
Can you define performance a little more specifically?So performance wise, there’s no difference between the V1 and V2 models?
I guess just the clarity of the picture in general. My hopes was you’d say they were equal so I didn’t feel guilty going for a V1 so I could also use it as a scanner as well haha I’m sure you’d say the V1 is still very good. But I couldn’t live with myself knowing there was something better for the same/similar price.Can you define performance a little more specifically?
I can't think of a single thing the first one does that the Genii doesn't do better off the top of my head.
To the best of my knowledge, they use the same front sensor and lens, but the Genii has a better rear display and lens assembly. I feel the Genii produces a significantly better image that doesn't degrade as much with higher magnifications.I guess just the clarity of the picture in general. My hopes was you’d say they were equal so I didn’t feel guilty going for a V1 so I could also use it as a scanner as well haha I’m sure you’d say the V1 is still very good. But I couldn’t live with myself knowing there was something better for the same/similar price.
Call Bering and ask them directly.I’m looking to get one of these units soon, is the situation still the same? The dealer I’m going through reached out to Bearing yesterday and didn’t get a response. I guess they’ve still got their hands full?
I got a man on the phone and he gave me a direct sales email. I’m probably just going to bite the bit and do it that way.Call Bering and ask them directly.
No experience with the Super yoter V2, but it has the same FOV as the V1. I had an FXG 50 and the yoter was the better clip on due to a lesser FOV and better eye piece glass (didn't blurry as fast as the FXG 50). Also, the steiner V2 more than likely has the same 12⁰ FOV, so the Super Yoter will support more mag than it still.I’m looking at optic mounted clip ons to run with a HNT26 chassis and the V2 yoter C is top of the list after reading this thread. I’m also looking at the pulsar krypton 2 and sterner C35 V2 but I’m not sure either of those are even stateside yet.
Any more V2 yoters out in the wild being put through their paces? I’d really like to hear from anyone objective mounting them as well.
I’m running the V2 currently and I’m happy with it for sure. I’ve killed a few coyotes with it, and shot it out to 400 yards on a 10in steel circle.I’m looking at optic mounted clip ons to run with a HNT26 chassis and the V2 yoter C is top of the list after reading this thread. I’m also looking at the pulsar krypton 2 and sterner C35 V2 but I’m not sure either of those are even stateside yet.
Any more V2 yoters out in the wild being put through their paces? I’d really like to hear from anyone objective mounting them as well.
I’m running the V2 currently and I’m happy with it for sure. I’ve killed a few coyotes with it, and shot it out to 400 yards on a 10in steel circle.
If you don’t have a FFP optic it will give you trouble. That happened to me at first. SFP optics cover too many pixels and cause zero shift as you increase power on the day scope and as you increase your shooting distance. It will be a repeatable shift, but a shift nonetheless.
I switched to a FFP optic and it has made a tremendous difference.
Also, the features are nice. Wi-Fi connectivity works well, and you can saver zero profiles for multiple rifles.
If you have other questions PM me I’ll be happy to answer. I am running it as a clip on. I forgot to mention that at the beginning of my message.
Rail mounted. Running it in the Larue mount they offer!Thanks for the response. I’m running an FFP NX8 2.5-20 so no issues there. When you say you’re running it as a clip on do you mean rail or scope mounted?
I did have to do a few modifications to get it to work correctly. Pm me and I’ll send you my phone number and get you some pictures.Thanks for the response. I’m running an FFP NX8 2.5-20 so no issues there. When you say you’re running it as a clip on do you mean rail or scope mounted?
Could someone objective mounting this tell me how much room is needed underneath the unit? The HNT26 forend sits above the barrel a bit.
I think that will depend on the adaptor and/or spacers you use.
I have 2 objective mounts a no name chinese and a smartclip I just measured them both and the chinamount is .350 and the smartclip is .150
Hope that helps
Pics for reference.
The thermal doesnt protrude any further down than the chinamount on a 40mm objective for reference. The 56mm smartclip is bigger than the thermal so non issue. View attachment 8316098
I've played with both versions and I would not objective mount either one unless you absolutely had to. Reason being is that the rear display is in the body of the scope and the lenses are housed in a separate section that is screwed onto the body. Objective mounting stresses the connection between the two and can cause a zero shift. The original version with the removable eyepiece for use as a scanner was really bad about this. The Genii is permanently affixed and is much better.Thank you. My scopes a 50mm objective so I’m sure the adapter will be bigger then the thermal. If I step up to 1.26” rings that’ll give me about 5/16” from the bottom of the scope to the top of the forend.
I've played with both versions and I would not objective mount either one unless you absolutely had to. Reason being is that the rear display is in the body of the scope and the lenses are housed in a separate section that is screwed onto the body. Objective mounting stresses the connection between the two and can cause a zero shift. The original version with the removable eyepiece for use as a scanner was really bad about this. The Genii is permanently affixed and is much better.
Both versions need a scope with adjustable parallax that goes down to 50yds or less. LPVO's with a fixed parallax such as a Geniii 1-10 razor will have as much a 1mil of cross hair movement if your eye position or cheekweld isn't perfect each time.
Snagged one of these used and it came with the handheld viewer installed.
I swapped to the clip on eye piece, and the image is great but sometimes is a little blurry through my scope if I don't have my head positioned just right (more than I would have expected, and much more finicky than my PVS30).
My question is, how do I make sure the clip on eye piece is installed correctly to get the best experience through the scope? Thanks!
Makes sense, I mill see if there's anything I can do to make things better (or possibly worse haha). I am using the ADM pic mount which has been great. Thanks for the input!Regarding imagery and blur, it's not easily avoided. Eye piece designs are the solution, and good eye pieces are typically costly. Parallax can fix some of the issue. Staying on low power can resolve some of the issue too. I haven't found a solution that entirely fixes the blur, unless like you said, you're perfectly square behind the day-optic.
i2 devices are analog - you see through them - much easier to control image quality as seen by their rather wide band of collimation tolerance. Thermals have a significantly tighter tolerance which is why the best solution is to have a co-planer day-optic and thermal clip-on.
Even bell mounting a thermal clip-on with a Rusan type adapter doesn't always get the thermal square to the display.
The issues outlined are typically why you see large variance in pricing based on convenience and capability.
I covered most of the differences around post 315.thanks for the info on the 2 super yoter c's
i've seen the BE46155 listed with the wrong information more than once
do you know if the only difference in the 2 is the fixed eyepiece or were there other changes to the V2 version
I am running one on a HNT 26 with an objective mount (Rusan) on a 3-15 Minox. The HNT 26 forend has too much flex to run it on the forend. I am using the Vortex 1.45" rings with their diving board mount for my Impact 4000. I will see if I can get some pictures of it.Could someone objective mounting this tell me how much room is needed underneath the unit? The HNT26 forend sits above the barrel a bit.
I covered most of the differences around post 315.
The two major ones are a higher definition rear display along with onboard recording and wifi.
yeah i think i need to go back through this whole thread and give it a good going overI covered most of the differences around post 315.
The two major ones are a higher definition rear display along with onboard recording and wifi.
No, the new version does not have any digital zoom. The V1 (universal) allows it in scanner mode now only. When the V1 first released it allowed in clip-on and scanner mode but it was eventually removed as some people had issues with that feature.I can't remember but does the newer version do digital zoom?
If the base mag of the day scope is higher than around 3x, you will start to lose the icons around the edges of the screen, and it may be difficult to get the clip on zeroed with the day scope. This isn't just a Super Yoter C issue. It is a FOV issue of the day scope. However, it comes up a lot because the SY C can still yield a usable image at higher magnifications.
I wouldn't even consider the the first version. The removable eyepiece doesn't mount very secure and causes a zero shift if it moves, especially when objective mounted.i thought it just had nicer glass in a fixed eyepiece but if it has a higher definition display i think that seals the deal for me between the two. being able to use it as a handheld scanner would be nice but not at the expense of a better picture and more optical magnification
It already does this when you switch to gun profiles 3 and 4.Wouldn't most of the issues with higher base magnifications be fixed if the UI was updated to place the nav/menu icons slightly more towards the center of the screen? Ideally a menu setting to adjust the display positioning for a few typical base magnifications.
Seems that way. Hopefully this is not over the iray bs. Surely if we shit down the US market share the Ccp won't sell those thermals to the Russiansinteresting , it looks like night goggles has removed all bearing optics thermals from their website
Seems that way. Hopefully this is not over the iray bs. Surely if we shit down the US market share the Ccp won't sell those thermals to the Russians
iray usa's mother company got sanctioned over the ukraine warWhat’s going on with iray?