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Hunting & Fishing Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

DarinR

DarinR

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I am considering barreling up an FN SPR action in .308 with a 16" Bartlein 1/10" barrel running a sound suppressor for hunting deer and pigs out to 300 yards or so. Has anyone done a similar build? Where you happy with the 16" tube or do you wish you had gone 18 or 20"? This gun is meant to be used with a suppressor. I have a great .260 Rem for the non-suppressed hunting but I wanted a .308 with as short a barrel as practical for hunting to 300 yards.

Thanks for your input!!

Darin Reiss
FFL/SOT in Haysville, KS
 
#3
Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

Hi Rory,

Effective July 1, 2011 it will be legal per KS statute. Our governor signed a bill a couple of months ago allowing suppressors for all legal hunting and also CCH while hunting. Previously, we could do neither.

Thanks,
Darin
 
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Been happy with mine...

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#5
Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

Building a .308 AR Black Hole barrel with a SI Defense Gen III upper just for that purpose. Putting a Wells Custom Gun .308 can on it as soon as the ATF gets around to doing their part, but that's a story for another thread.

Hopefully I'll be this using fall to put down some hogs on a friend's range in TX

I plan to use 178 grain A-Max's for the job
 
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Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarinR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Rory,

Effective July 1, 2011 it will be legal per KS statute. Our governor signed a bill a couple of months ago allowing suppressors for all legal hunting and also CCH while hunting. Previously, we could do neither.

Thanks,
Darin </div></div>
Lucky you. We can't even own them in MI...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rory_™</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarinR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Rory,

Effective July 1, 2011 it will be legal per KS statute. Our governor signed a bill a couple of months ago allowing suppressors for all legal hunting and also CCH while hunting. Previously, we could do neither.

Thanks,
Darin </div></div>
Lucky you. We can't even own them in MI...
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Rory,

I met my wife years ago when I lived in South Dakota. I grew up in Dodge City, KS and moved from KS to SD in 1998. I told her on our first date (blind date) that I was never moving back to KS since it had no CCH and it was not Class 3 friendly. I moved back anyways and with the help of MANY KS residents, senators, representatives and a GREAT NRA lobbyist named Jordan Austin, we have been able to move KS from one of the lesser gun friendly states to one of the best. I am glad to have helped by testifying on the original bill that opened up class 3 to KS residents. It was great to watch a bill be drafted, go through committee, pass the House, pass the Senate and then get the Gov's signature. I learned that it is possible for a group of individuals to garner the help to get a gun law changed in a positive direction. Granted, KS has had a excellent GUN FRIENDLY House and Senate for a number of years but that is due to KS residents voting them into office.

Sorry for the long speech but I meant it to be encouraging to individuals in more restrictive states to get together and try to change their laws. My neighbor, Phil Journey, was working the CCH bill from the early 1990's and finally got it through around 2005 or 2006. This took a LONG time and big change in the makeup of the KS House and Senate had to take place before the votes would be there. The class 3 bill started as an idea when I knocked on his door to discuss the possibility of him introducing a class 3 bill in the Senate. That discussion was in December after then KS AG Paul Morrison released an opinion letter that KS C3 dealers could not possess class 3 items. The following April our bill became law when then Gov. Sebelius signed it. It took MANY years for good, conservative people to fill the House and Senate but it happened.

Michigan could be the next Kansas!!

Darin Reiss
FFL/SOT in Haysville, KS
 
#9
Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

Darin,

You're basically describing one of my work guns, that is also one of my hunting rigs. I am running a 16.5" Bartlein (1-11.27"), Surefire suppressor and it is sending out Barnes TSX at a suprisingly fast rate. Granted I am on the west coast, deer are smaller, but the pigs grow big, and I have shot them both. No need to go longer, just momre to carry and haul.

There is an article I wrote a few years back in Surefire's Combat Tactics that shows the rifle and a few specs on the fine weapon that George at GA Precision built. No need to go the added tube, stick with the 16'ish and you'll be fine.

Be safe,
FourNineThree
 
#10
Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

Thanks FourNineThree,

What kind of accuracy are you getting out of the TSX's? Are you running 110's or 130's? I was strongly considering a 130 TTSX.

Thanks,
Darin
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricF517</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Suppressors would be nice here in MI but I would rather they fix this state before the whole thing ends up like Detroit. A black hole </div></div>

Good point. I have an Aunt and Uncle in Farmington Hills. Not what it used to be.

Darin
 
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Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

Darin,

I am shooting the 168's from Black Hills, their "Gold" line and I am incredibly impressed by accuracy and what the round does on animals. Between the rifle and the ammo, I get half MOA consistently. Jeff and crew build incredibly accurate ammo and it truly is the case with the 175 BTHP and the 168 TSX I get from them.

Going through flesh, bone and barriers, the TSX is phenominal. I have recovered bullets from a handful of animals and the end result is a bullet that holds together, opens beautifully and retains almost all of the weight. Closest pig was about 35 yards and furthest was hit with the LRF at 314 yards. TSX did the work on all, a solid choice. I think the lighter bullets would get a bit flighty and may not offer the best in internal ballistics?

Hit me via PM if you want photos of a few recovered bullets and damage.

Hope this helps?

Be safe,
FourNineThree
 
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Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarinR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricF517</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Suppressors would be nice here in MI but I would rather they fix this state before the whole thing ends up like Detroit. A black hole </div></div>

Good point. I have an Aunt and Uncle in Farmington Hills. Not what it used to be.

Darin </div></div>

No it is definitely not the same up here anymore. Hopefully the new Gov, and legislature get things under control. As much as I would like to have a suppressor up here so many more important things need fixed.

Hell I am actively trying to escape this state right now. BA in Criminal Justice and police academy grad, and there are more cops being laid off that there are going through academies it seems.
 
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Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarinR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Rory,

Effective July 1, 2011 it will be legal per KS statute. Our governor signed a bill a couple of months ago allowing suppressors for all legal hunting and also CCH while hunting. Previously, we could do neither.

Thanks,
Darin</div></div>


Thanks for Clarification Darin!

Had been hearing we could hunt suppressed legally now. I run a 20" FN SPR .308 with SAS arbiter can would love to see how your 16" build turns out. Ironic thing when I went to get LEO signoff for my can I told the sheriff I wanted to hunt p-dogs suppressed with it. (2 years ago) Guess he nor I knew it was illegal then.

Adam
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toolfanatic</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarinR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Rory,

Effective July 1, 2011 it will be legal per KS statute. Our governor signed a bill a couple of months ago allowing suppressors for all legal hunting and also CCH while hunting. Previously, we could do neither.

Thanks,
Darin</div></div>


Thanks for Clarification Darin!

Had been hearing we could hunt suppressed legally now. I run a 20" FN SPR .308 with SAS arbiter can would love to see how your 16" build turns out. Ironic thing when I went to get LEO signoff for my can I told the sheriff I wanted to hunt p-dogs suppressed with it. (2 years ago) Guess he nor I knew it was illegal then.

Adam </div></div>



Hi Adam,

What town are you in? I grew up in Dodge City. The Arbiter is a nice suppressor!

Darin Reiss
FFL/SOT in Haysville, SK
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MBC223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats a sweet setup. Anyone know offhand if its legal in GA? </div></div>

Hunting with a can is illegal in GA.
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#19
Re: Suppressed 16" .308 FN SPR for hunting deer/pigs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rory_™</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarinR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Rory,

Effective July 1, 2011 it will be legal per KS statute. Our governor signed a bill a couple of months ago allowing suppressors for all legal hunting and also CCH while hunting. Previously, we could do neither.

Thanks,
Darin </div></div>
Lucky you. We can't even own them in MI...
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We can't either. We get NOTHING cool.
 
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