Suppressors Suppressed & Un-suppressed??

[10ring'r]

Thinking about getting my first suppressor and have a question.
The rifle(s) that I'm planning to use "It" on, will not be shot using subs, just standard 5.56/.223 factory loaded ammo.
Question I have is, since the uppers don't have AGB's, will (I know, the possibility, is always a possibility, but...) I have any issues? and if so, can I just get a adjustable gas-keyed BCG?
I have two uppers (16" & 10.5"), that I plan on using "It" on at this moment in time, but, might be a couple of others.
If you haven't guessed it by now, they are AR's.
Thanks for any and all replies in advance. Mac

 

[wade2big]

You shouldn’t need to do anything to your rifle as configured. A 556 rifle isn’t the same as a large frame rifle. AGB and such aren’t necessary if your rifle is gassed correctly as is.

 

[10ring'r]

You shouldn’t need to do anything to your rifle as configured. A 556 rifle isn’t the same as a large frame rifle. AGB and such aren’t necessary if your rifle is gassed correctly as is.

Thanks wade. I kinda figured as much and all my guns have ran just fine with factory ammo.
A couple of ftf's or fte's, but after an aggregate of about 7-8k of rnds. in total (ammo issue, not gun), that's it.
Mac

 

[theLBC]

you'll have more gas, so it is going to run harder and you may get more "gas in the face", but it should run.
you'll have to decide if you have to do something to reduce the amount of gas but you can wait and see.

of course, this is coming from a piston guy so i don't really deal with "gas in the face" and that's why it is in quotes.

 

[FatBoy]

As has been mentioned, rifle will run fine but you will likely find you get a little more speed on the bolt reciprocity and some gassing out the ejection port and probably the charging handle. PRI gas buster does a decent enough job and it’s a cheap and ridiculously easy install compared to a gas block. Regardless, it’s worth it. Do it.

 

[alamo5000]

With a regular length barrel things should be ok but if the carrier is a little too fast and induces malfunctions just start with a heavier buffer.

If you have a short barrel it can get more complicated but nothing crazy.

An adjustable block is nice but not needed especially on a regular length barrel.

My order of operation would be:

Heavier buffer
Stiffer recoil spring
Adjustable whatever

 

[AMGtuned]

Thinking about getting my first suppressor and have a question.
The rifle(s) that I'm planning to use "It" on, will not be shot using subs, just standard 5.56/.223 factory loaded ammo.
Question I have is, since the uppers don't have AGB's, will (I know, the possibility, is always a possibility, but...) I have any issues? and if so, can I just get a adjustable gas-keyed BCG?
I have two uppers (16" & 10.5"), that I plan on using "It" on at this moment in time, but, might be a couple of others.
If you haven't guessed it by now, they are AR's.
Thanks for any and all replies in advance. Mac

Mac, as stated, the rifles SHOULD run just fine. @alamo5000 pretty much hit it right above me. I would DEFINITELY bump up to at least H1 on the buffer. The short rifle, in particular, will be violent on the BCG once suppressed. Too heavy a buffer spring, coupled with you newly weighted buffer, can create the same effect.

Personally; my 10.5 was perfect ejection with no AGB, and a H3 buffer (4.5oz weight + buffer body), but was a little gassy to the face. Currently it has AGB, a H2, with heavy buffer spring. 3 o'clock ejection, but I don't like the cyclic weight/snap/speed. Ill be going back to H3 and carbine spring, or H3 and medium spring with coils off cut till I like the performance.

My 16" carbines all have H1 anyway, and seem to simply enjoy life suppressed. Even the 1 without AGB.

 

[Huskydriver]

Honestly having your normal bcg for unsuppressed and and bootleg adjusted carrier for supressed is a pretty sweet sweet up.

I only shoot supressed but if I did the back and forth thing that is how I would roll. Over gassed di guns are fun for like 10 minutes

 

[hafejd30]

I agree with husky ^

Overgassed guns suck. You also feel like your beating your rifle up every shot

I run a 10.5” FN barrel/Bootleg adjustable BCG/PRI gasbuster

The rifle ran great with the bootleg alone. But gas to the face was very noticeable. The PRI solved that. The bootleg is set one click from the “suppressed” position and runs like a top. Opened all the way is very noticeable and beats on the gun. Standard spring/buffer

This is only an issue with my Saker ASR 556. With my 30 cal suppressor (TBAC Ultra 9) my AR’s run fine with zero tuning needed

Honestly you could run the same bootleg carrier and just turn the adjustable screws to the needed settings while swapping between suppressed and not. A small screwdriver would take a lot less effort than swapping the BCG

 

[BikePilot]

You might also want to evaluate suppressors based in part on back pressure. Some like oss add very little pressure and will run a lot better without an agb.

 

[FuhQ]

Thinking about getting my first suppressor and have a question.
The rifle(s) that I'm planning to use "It" on, will not be shot using subs, just standard 5.56/.223 factory loaded ammo.
Question I have is, since the uppers don't have AGB's, will (I know, the possibility, is always a possibility, but...) I have any issues? and if so, can I just get a adjustable gas-keyed BCG?
I have two uppers (16" & 10.5"), that I plan on using "It" on at this moment in time, but, might be a couple of others.
If you haven't guessed it by now, they are AR's.
Thanks for any and all replies in advance. Mac

Don't buy into all the internet tacticool hype bullshit about what you "need" and don't need... I'm running all sort of "wrong" stuff on several rifles suppressed and unsuppressed supers & subs, with NO adjustable gas blocks, and I haven't had a single hiccup or issue.

Just use high-quality top-tier brand parts in your builds, and you're likelihood of having issues drops significantly, because the parts are built right, to the right specs, of the right materials and finishes, etc...

Want to mind-fuck all the guys on ARFCom? I have a 16" .300 BLK with an 8.5" twist barrel, NON-adjustable gas block, and it's a carbine length gas system... It runs supers & subs, suppressed and unsuppressed. And if I do my part, I can consistently hit a 8" gong at 200 yards with 220gr subsonics and a 3x power scope... According to the internet snipers that entire rifle is built incorrectly, and should NOT do what it does...

But it does...

 

[10ring'r]

Don't buy into all the internet tacticool hype bullshit about what you "need" and don't need... I'm running all sort of "wrong" stuff on several rifles suppressed and unsuppressed supers & subs, with NO adjustable gas blocks, and I haven't had a single hiccup or issue.

Just use high-quality top-tier brand parts in your builds, and you're likelihood of having issues drops significantly, because the parts are built right, to the right specs, of the right materials and finishes, etc...

Want to mind-fuck all the guys on ARFCom? I have a 16" .300 BLK with an 8.5" twist barrel, NON-adjustable gas block, and it's a carbine length gas system... It runs supers & subs, suppressed and unsuppressed. And if I do my part, I can consistently hit a 8" gong at 200 yards with 220gr subsonics and a 3x power scope... According to the internet snipers that entire rifle is built incorrectly, and should NOT do what it does...

But it does...

NICE Jeep!! Oh, really nice rifle also! My 16" gun, has a carbine gas system, with H1 buffer.
My 10.5" has a pistol gas system and H3 buffer. All my uppers have the gas-buster charging handles. I've had them for a while and can't remember the c.h. manufacture. I shoot rt. handed guns, left handed, so, I get enough gas out of the ejection port.
Thanks for the info.. Mac

 

[FuhQ]

NICE Jeep!! Oh, really nice rifle also! My 16" gun, has a carbine gas system, with H1 buffer.
My 10.5" has a pistol gas system and H3 buffer. All my uppers have the gas-buster charging handles. I've had them for a while and can't remember the c.h. manufacture. I shoot rt. handed guns, left handed, so, I get enough gas out of the ejection port.
Thanks for the info.. Mac

Thanks man. I'm running a Noveske H2 buffer in that one, to keep down the carbon buildup from blow-by on the bolt & BCG, by slowing down the bolt unlock (added mass = more power to push it). It's definitely better than the standard carbine buffer I used to have in there. Before, that thing would be filthy after 50 shots...Now it's good for 100-150 subsonics before it starts getting filthy and running a bit slower/rougher (when suppressed). It also really helps to mitigate a slight bit of the felt recoil from the heavy 220 subs, because of the greater mass. I'm running an H3 in my 24" 6.5 Grendel...That's the way to go in a Grendel...Especially suppressed.

 

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