Suppressors suppressor need recommendation
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https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-9
https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7
And yes you can use on sub calibers
https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7
And yes you can use on sub calibers
Max noise reduction, I’d vote Ultra 9. Love mine, it’s very light as well. Only drawback is Ti isn’t the best if you want to run several mags through a semi quickly. If that’s going to be something you do with it, best to just get two cans, one of them being the U9/U7 in my opinion.
Thunderbeast Ultra 7 is a great can. I think it is the perfect combination of noise suppression, size and weight. I use it on semi's and bolts. Just don't do any mag dumps.
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TBAC Ultra 9, or Ultra 338 if you value noise reduction above all else. The 338 isn't really that much bigger than the 9.
I have a SiCo Harvester. It works great for all my shooting needs! However I will be getting a TBAC 338 Ultra for my 300NM.
Folks here have been using TBAC for years, me included. The Ultra is simply one of, if not THE best, TI cans available. The Ultra 9 is the quietest, Ultra 7 is good all around and the 5" works better than you'd think and is super short and light. If length isn't huge, I'd go with the 9" You can always get the 5" later like I did if you want short. They can handle 5 mags of .300BLK for instance but then it needs to cool. Not sure how many 7.62 or 5.56 it can handle before needing a cool down but you can always ask. They use thread over brakes and flash hiders for mounts, which keeps 'em accurate, repeatable and is also convenient. Those little brakes really work, don't have their flash hiders but I bet they're fine. TBAC has probably the best CS in the business and they're on here all the time. They take care of you.
All of the following can be used for full auto. Sico makes good ones, the Saker is great, one of the better QD cans available and it's built like a tank which makes it heavy. Saker is probably the most adaptable can out there, has lots of mounting options (Trifecta is best IMO) and lots of different front end caps. The KAC QDC is really nice but costly, one of the best all around. Elite Iron makes great cans out of SS that thread over like the TBAC cans; being SS they cost less. They also do some amazing custom work. Surefire makes nice cans but they're generally considered to be more expensive with less performance compared to others. But they are nice.
I also have some AAC cans, couple of SDN6's and couple of 556SD's. I got the SD's cheap, one of the SDN6's on sale and the other full price. They're good cans, they're made well and they work but the mounts and CS is probably the worst in the business. I'd stay away unless you're getting it cheap. The only way to get a good mount without modifying them is to buy several (so shell out $500-$1000) and choose the one(s) that work, that you wanna keep, and send the rest back. Saker is most similar to an AAC QD can but without any of the problems.
Suppressors are the epitomy of compromise. If you go lighter you give up full auto, if you go quieter it won't be super short. So on and so on. There is no "perfect" one for everything but some work well enough. Usually using a larger bore can on a 5.56 will make it sound deeper, throatier (which a lot of people like). A dedicated 5.56 can may be quieter but not always --Saker 7.62 is quieter than the 5.56 version, but it's also a bit longer and heavier. You have lots of good choices, but basically if you can resist not blowing through more than 150rds. as fast as you can, then TBAC is where it's at. Performance plus low weight.
Yes, they are the best when it comes to suppression, repeatability/poi shift, customer service/support. They are on this site answering questions on a daily basis. Suppressors are basically a lifetime purchase. You can buy a different brand now and end up with a tbac or wishing you went with a tbac.
Feel like this forum always recommends TBAC.... I might have to get one to find out the love affair.
I finally got my TBAC 6.5 Ultra 9 the other day and that thing is amazing. I had been using a SiCo Hybrid and the Ultra is of course a good bit lighter. But it also has much better sound & tone and the repeatable POI shift from unsuppressed to suppressed was impressive. I'm glad I have a 30 Cal Ultra 7 and 2 338 Ultras that should only have a few months left before I can pick them up.
The fact that everyone here always recommends TBAC is telling. People on this forum don't agree on anything. Made it easy for me when I was ordering my first suppressor.
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In my research I found that no suppressor does everything “best.” You’ll have to determine which qualities you desire most in a can. Not everyone will have the same opinion, needs, etc. I made a pro / con list w/ everything that I was looking for in a can & went ahead w/ my purchase.
For example:
QD mount / TOMB / DT
lightweight vs weight not important
Bolt gun / semiauto / combination of both
Max suppression vs not
Price
Lots of other factors in addition to the criteria listed above. What’s important to you?
For example:
QD mount / TOMB / DT
lightweight vs weight not important
Bolt gun / semiauto / combination of both
Max suppression vs not
Price
Lots of other factors in addition to the criteria listed above. What’s important to you?
My first can was an AAC SCAR-h, and after waiting for nearly a year to get the tax stamp, finally getting to shoot with it was a huge disappointment. It was quiet enough I guess, but the inconsistent POI shift each time I removed/attached it was awful IMHO - 1 MOA or more at 600yds in random directions. Was fortunate to find a Class III/SOT with a SCAR-17 who was looking for the correct suppressor for his rifle - he traded me a NIB SF SOCOM 762 for it. Yeah, I had to pay for the tax stamp & wait several months to get it, but compared to the option of being stuck with a can that was of no use on a precision rifle, it was a great deal.
The above experience prompted me to do more research before investing in another can, and that research lead to the purchase of a TBAC 30BA. I used this one on 28" 6x47 Lap & 284 bbls for my DTA SRS, and was mighty impressed with consistent & small POI, as well as overall accuracy. Was so pleased with it that I ordered a 30CB9 as soon as they were announced. TBAC announced the Ultra series of cans before I received the stamp for the 30CB9, and I ordered an Ultra 7, which was for quite awhile my favorite can. When they announced the re-core program, I sent the old 30BA back for the Ultra 9 baffle stack upgrade, and it's now my favorite. Had a guy come over to comment on how quiet one of my Dashers was with this can, while shooting a varmint silhouette match on a covered firing line. I have no complaints with the SF SOCOM - it's not as quiet as any of the TBAC cans I own, but POI is repeatable, and accuracy is very good with it. But it spends most of its time sitting in the safe beside the 30CB9, while the Ultra 7 & 30BA/Ultra 9 get hauled to the range with great regularity.
The above experience prompted me to do more research before investing in another can, and that research lead to the purchase of a TBAC 30BA. I used this one on 28" 6x47 Lap & 284 bbls for my DTA SRS, and was mighty impressed with consistent & small POI, as well as overall accuracy. Was so pleased with it that I ordered a 30CB9 as soon as they were announced. TBAC announced the Ultra series of cans before I received the stamp for the 30CB9, and I ordered an Ultra 7, which was for quite awhile my favorite can. When they announced the re-core program, I sent the old 30BA back for the Ultra 9 baffle stack upgrade, and it's now my favorite. Had a guy come over to comment on how quiet one of my Dashers was with this can, while shooting a varmint silhouette match on a covered firing line. I have no complaints with the SF SOCOM - it's not as quiet as any of the TBAC cans I own, but POI is repeatable, and accuracy is very good with it. But it spends most of its time sitting in the safe beside the 30CB9, while the Ultra 7 & 30BA/Ultra 9 get hauled to the range with great regularity.
I would recommend TBAC. My ugly twin has a AAC and SilencerCo, they are ok. He always kicks himself when I pull out the TBAC, superior performance and no POI shift taking mine on and off.
If funds are limited and you think you will be mounting across multiple hosts you should look at more than just tbac for your first can. Deadair, rugged, and silencerco all make great cans that can give you tons of versatility from one tax stamp. If you mainly plan on suppressing that tikka308 than occasionally a 556 than a tbac can would be a great choice. If you realistically think you would like to supress handguns, and various other semi autos or sbrs I would seriously recommend other cans like the silencer hybrid for your first can.
ok thanks, i do want the can on tikka 308+ some time ar15, not interest in 9mm/45auto at the moment.
so i was looking at ultra 7/9 vs silencerco omega. anyone has experience with omega? hows the Omega POI repeatability? on precision rilfe blog seem alot pro use it.
also the ultra 7 vs 9", how many additional db does the 9 reduce? is it noticeable?
so i was looking at ultra 7/9 vs silencerco omega. anyone has experience with omega? hows the Omega POI repeatability? on precision rilfe blog seem alot pro use it.
also the ultra 7 vs 9", how many additional db does the 9 reduce? is it noticeable?
FWIW,
TBAC Ultra 9 in .30 & 6.5mm and could not be more impressed. Led to a .22 Takedown(replaced so very many rimfire cans) and a .223 Ultra 7 & .338 Ultra waiting on ATF. My AAC & Gemtech cans are taking up space...
Regards, Matt.
TBAC Ultra 9 in .30 & 6.5mm and could not be more impressed. Led to a .22 Takedown(replaced so very many rimfire cans) and a .223 Ultra 7 & .338 Ultra waiting on ATF. My AAC & Gemtech cans are taking up space...
Regards, Matt.
Respectfully & FWIW,
As a counterpoint. I consider the Gemtech Outback II to be one of the worst suppressors that I have ever had the misfortune of buying. Further, I doubled down, brilliant in hindsight, and opted for their G Core "upgrade" which has done nothing other than making it louder still. Easier to clean but louder. There are several cans I look at with a jaundiced eye when I open that safe, generally AAC & Gemtech, and the Gemtech Outback II is one of them. I realize you did not ask, however, I thought I would mention it as I don't think I have ever paid more for less. I have $250ish in the original can, another $249 plus S&H in the "upgrade", not to mention the $200 tax stamp. When I compare it to my TBAC .22 Take Down it makes me a bit ill. I would strongly suggest you actually shoot one of these wonders before you ever consider buying one. Not having the intelligence to be "burnt once twice shy" I bought a Gemtech Mist a few months before 41f. Let's just say that it was another expensive mistake. The thread tenon is out of spec by several thousandths, which causes the entire barrel to dip in the Kidd Receiver, and after Mic'ing the tenon I found it was not only undersized but variable by several thousandths. How they accomplished that I don't know. I will say they have, without question, the WORST Customer Service I have ever encountered. I explained the problem to the guy who answered the phone who forwarded me to the voice mail of "tech specialist". After three calls and three very polite messages, it became clear they had ZERO intention of calling back to say nothing of addressing the problem. Before you ask I have gone over the receiver tenon dimensions with Tony Kidd, as well as Volquartsen, and it is a problem on Gemtech's behalf... I will NEVER buy anything else from them... I do have ONE stainless HMR Suppressor that I bought at the same time as the Outback II that actually works quite well. Twice burnt... Not again guys.
Regards, Matt Garrett
Chesapeake, Virginia
I've shot my Ultra 7 & Ultra 9 (actually a re-cored 30BA) on the same rifles a few times over the past year or so. There's no doubt in my mind that there's a noticeable difference between the two, but without a sound meter, I have no way of knowing for sure how much quieter the re-cored 30BA is relative to the Ultra 7. I believe part of the obvious difference is a different tone, maybe due to the steel tube of the re-cored 30BA/Ultra 9 vs the titanium tube of the Ultra 7. Regardless, I'm very pleased with both of them. Perhaps someone who owns both 7 & 9 versions of the Ultra - both with titanium shell - will jump in here with their opinion on whether the actual metered sound is noticeably different.
I currently own two 30P-1 cans. Both are exceptional. As of today, I am waiting the tax stamp approval for an Ultra 7, 6.5 that I bought a year ago. I will not buy any other rifle suppressor.
I’ve been using a silencerco harvester for three years now and love it. It’s light and works well. The only downside is I can’t run continuous strings of more than 10 without letting it cool down which isn’t an issue for me
30BA had a titanium tube. Your recored 30BA vs. a native Ultra 9 just has a thicker tube.
Well dog my cats...just got both re-cored 30BA & 30CB9 out of the safe to check with a magnet - they both have titanium tubes. OTOH, when I checked my 22TD, the magnet stuck to it. Is that because the 22RF can's titanium tube is thin enough that the magnet is attracted to the SS baffles inside?
I have had an Omega (30 cal) since 2015. Repeatability is very good. Shoot, remove, reinstall, shoot again, same point of impact. I have used my Omega on 5 different rifles in 4 calibers (223, 260, 308, 300 BLK). Point of impact does change with and without the the Omega. I do read where some guys say they do not have POI shifts with and without their can. That may be true on some rifles, and in some instances, but I doubt that it is the case most of the time. TBAC's are great cans, but SICo are too.
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TBAC. Not much I can add to what has already been posted, but it deserves to be beat to death... I have lots of suppresors from several companies and for a precision rifle TBAC has no peer. Ultra 7 is my favorite.
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