Noobie here to please bear with me. From IL so no way to own or possess a suppressor. Would really like to go out west shooting prarrie dogs. Own 22LR, 22 WMR, 17 HMR, 223, and 6.5 CM. Start small and close and reach out as thy get gun shy eh ? Have read that having a suppressor would allow shooting longer in any given location. Are there places or clubs that rent suppressors to out of state shooters? Maybe have to hire guide to go along ? Probably won't happen for another year or so but thought I need to start planing early. steve
Suppressors Suppressor rental ?
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Guide or a good friend from snipershide is about your only choice unless there is a club sitting on a prairie dog town.
Owner of suppressor will have to be near you at all times.
Owner of suppressor will have to be near you at all times.
Leasing or loaning (without your presence) a suppressor under the NFA is considered a transfer so "no-go (see above.)
As others said, owner has to be in proximity at all times you're in control of the item, or it's a federal felony.
Theoretically they could be added to someone’s trust for legal use, but I don’t know anyone who would do that lol.
Thanks for the replys so far. This is mostly a dream or " bucket list" item at this time . Would probably only need a can for the 223 and 1 for the 6.5CM. Maybe neither if if my skills are not there by the time it all comes together. Thought it best to start now and have a basic plan in place before any new regs or restrictions come up. May just have to retire to a friendly state. steve
If you had an out of state friend with too many supressors that wanted to join you on the pdog hunt. As long as he was in proximity of you i would think its ok but dont know how something like this would be enforced. The 1k range local to me, not like i remove my cans and take with me to go paint steel. technically they are left unattended attached to the rifle on the bench
I started shooting dogs around 2010. It has become a bit of an obsession. I shoot mostly in Colorado. My observations are that:
1. Either me (overhunting) or "the plague" has reduced populations over the last 5 years. There used to be times where I'd set up and hit 30-40 without moving. Now it's 5-10.
2. While anything that goes bang is fun, a .204 or .223 is probably the minimum caliber you want to take. There are always exceptions, but most of my shots are 200yds out (many farther) and the .17 hmr/.22LR drift and aren't competitive if your pal has a 6mm or 6.5 variant. (or a 22-250. 220, etc).
3. Earlier in the season (May/June), earlier in the day best, and it needs to be sunny. Thoery is a pdog won't come outside if hawks are casting shadows.
4. You need good binos and a decent rangefinder. Because of varying sizes, it's visually hard to tell if they are 400 or 525 yds out. I often shoot with a buddy and it's a game to see who gets it first. Even at long distances, if you don't hit it in 2 or 3 shots, it gets a pass. You get so used to the sound, you don't even need to see the your buddy's dog to know that it was hit.
5. Use frangible bullets.
Suppressed is the way to go - you can hear them call one another and your ears localize them. You also hear the paper bag bursting when you hit them. A can owned by an individual cannot be loaned. If it's owned by a trust, it can be if you are added as a trustee. This is a longshot as only a buddy would loan you a can on a trust because if it's lost or damaged (bad rifle thread job, not tightened, cheapo Barnes bullets) it's a problem.
I shoot dogs 3-5x/year out west, have a couple trips planned already. Shoot me a pm with your plans, might have some tips.
1. Either me (overhunting) or "the plague" has reduced populations over the last 5 years. There used to be times where I'd set up and hit 30-40 without moving. Now it's 5-10.
2. While anything that goes bang is fun, a .204 or .223 is probably the minimum caliber you want to take. There are always exceptions, but most of my shots are 200yds out (many farther) and the .17 hmr/.22LR drift and aren't competitive if your pal has a 6mm or 6.5 variant. (or a 22-250. 220, etc).
3. Earlier in the season (May/June), earlier in the day best, and it needs to be sunny. Thoery is a pdog won't come outside if hawks are casting shadows.
4. You need good binos and a decent rangefinder. Because of varying sizes, it's visually hard to tell if they are 400 or 525 yds out. I often shoot with a buddy and it's a game to see who gets it first. Even at long distances, if you don't hit it in 2 or 3 shots, it gets a pass. You get so used to the sound, you don't even need to see the your buddy's dog to know that it was hit.
5. Use frangible bullets.
Suppressed is the way to go - you can hear them call one another and your ears localize them. You also hear the paper bag bursting when you hit them. A can owned by an individual cannot be loaned. If it's owned by a trust, it can be if you are added as a trustee. This is a longshot as only a buddy would loan you a can on a trust because if it's lost or damaged (bad rifle thread job, not tightened, cheapo Barnes bullets) it's a problem.
I shoot dogs 3-5x/year out west, have a couple trips planned already. Shoot me a pm with your plans, might have some tips.
