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Suppressors Suppressor Used in Mass Shooting
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What? Wait...... So you are saying that you can register a bump-stock as a machine gun? I did not see that in their notice. I thought manufacturer on new “machine-guns” for private citizens was banned as of 1986? If bump-stocks are now post 1986 machine-guns how can they be registered?
Can't wait to see where this political football lands. I've never understood the rationale of revising regulation of an item because a tiny portion of the population's misuse. Looking forward to the imminent arguments with friends and coworkers about the logic of banning cans, which I see as hearing protection ... all because OMG, don't hitmen use those?
Fear is the most marketable resource in politics and for what ever reason people are scared to death of cans. Thanks Hollywood.
Fear is the most marketable resource in politics and for what ever reason people are scared to death of cans. Thanks Hollywood.
Don't watch this video if you don't want to get pissed off. I only post it here because we need to know what the enemies of freedom are thinking and the type of propaganda they will use.
When I watch these videos I also like to read the comments. It gives you a good indication of how most people feel about the video. If you elect to watch the video right off of YouTube be sure to take a look at the comments. Most of them don't like the ATF idiot.
When I watch these videos I also like to read the comments. It gives you a good indication of how most people feel about the video. If you elect to watch the video right off of YouTube be sure to take a look at the comments. Most of them don't like the ATF idiot.
I want to see the picture of the actual firearm and suppressor used. to my knowledge not one single photo has surfaced.
Yep. Watched it, now I'm pissed off. What a jackass that "ATF Agent" is.
I fucking hate David Chipman's fucking face before he opens his fucking mouth.
He's a lying mother fucker from the get go, and he doesn't even know WFT he's talking about. Not a great endorsement for the BATFE. How about a BATFE Agent going to work for a anti-second amendment group? WTF is that? Basically the enemy of the Constitution I a position of power to "interpret" what "shall not infringe" means. There's no coming back from a fucker like that. The BATFE should be defunded and disbanded, period. What a bunch of fucks.
He's a lying mother fucker from the get go, and he doesn't even know WFT he's talking about. Not a great endorsement for the BATFE. How about a BATFE Agent going to work for a anti-second amendment group? WTF is that? Basically the enemy of the Constitution I a position of power to "interpret" what "shall not infringe" means. There's no coming back from a fucker like that. The BATFE should be defunded and disbanded, period. What a bunch of fucks.
I still don’t think a suppressor was used. If it was, there would have been photos of this thing all over every news outlet in the world.
Think about this. The shooter is dead. So there won’t be a trial.
With no trial there will be no evidence presented. If there was a suppressor there would be no need to exhibit it cause there’s no trial.
The police department doesn’t have to say or show anything more cause there’s no trial.
It’s going to take a pro-gun organization or news outlet to demand to see ALL of the devices used in the shooting before this is put to rest.
The only suppression I have seen is the truth.
I want nfa papers serial numbers sales records a picture and an eye witness that actually had eyes on.
This has not been presented yet so I think a lie. Popo authorities lying, happens.
I want nfa papers serial numbers sales records a picture and an eye witness that actually had eyes on.
This has not been presented yet so I think a lie. Popo authorities lying, happens.
They may not know. It could be some fake can and it was bagged as evidence and they are working to process and analyze. It may just look like a suppressor. Please, please, please, don't assume the average LEO knows anything about Suppressors.
Yet LEO like him are treated as special and given discounts by the industry every day.
Even if the Police Department were to allow us to see the alleged suppressor, how much do you want to bet that it might be one in the back of the property room that was taken from a criminal and is without a serial number.
In other words, they would just find one that was made illegally and confiscated from another crime and behold, there is the evil suppressor!
In other words, they would just find one that was made illegally and confiscated from another crime and behold, there is the evil suppressor!
I do assume that le knows about nfa items. They can get them on dept letterhead. It is in thier training.
I also hope that they can Google info.
Every legal suppressor / nfa item has serial number mfg info etc..
There has been more than enough time to run a check on gun and nfa item.
Since nobody is parading it around like a trophy as is customary I don't believe it.
Le regularly needlessly disrupt shooters at public ranges fishing for a nfa bust, they are not bafta and should get lost.
I have had comments from le that they didn't like civilians with those items or that much firepower.
I stay within the laws and wish they would stay within their jurisdictions.
IMHO it starts to smell of coverup the longer it goes unanswered.
The shooter using a suppressor is convenient, too convenient. Just like the LV shooter amassing such a huge arsenal in his hotel room unnoticed, with bumpstocks on practically every rifle, and leaving no motive behind. I'm not a conspiracy/false flag tard but this shit is just too fishy.
Are you implying that a beloved federal agency would stoop so low as to cover something up for political reasons?
Shame on you.
That's just silly.
Shame on you.
That's just silly.
I could be wrong but.... I thought shooting innocent people was already illegal. Why do they think banning "silencers" will help curb illegal shootings in any way?
Gun owners are not doing enough outreach. It's not just anti’s out there but other gun owners who do not have a clue about suppressors, save what they see in the movies. Also a lot of non-gun owners being told by this former LEO lie after lie.
Look at the gay rights movement, the Spartans of politics. Those Spartans told their side. Hearts and minds. They freakin know how to fight......
We have to tell our story and stop with the excuses and stop support Hollywood freakin John Wick movies. It is really unfucking believable that folk don't realize who we are at war with. SHEEPLE gonna sheep.
Freakin Trump cannot be trusted on 2A. He has proven that and if he gets another term watch out. Gun owners got him elected and what have we gotten in return? A bump-stock ban. HPA fizzle, national CCW, piss in the wind.....
Surely you jest.....You don’t really think the gun control push is about guns, do you?
If those come out now the photos, will all be fake. There is a reason the news an all the media lip flapping stopped as soon as it did. The only place the lip flapping is still going on is on gun boards,...why would that be???
While were on the subject of "evidence" or "the case of the little silencer that wasn't," take a look at this story.
Be sure to un-mute the volume when you watch the video that accompanies the article.
I have my ideas of why they were told to turn the body cameras off before trying to take out the Las Vegas shooter but am interested to see if someone is thinking the same way I am.
The first atta-boy goes to the first person who can read my mind.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/videos/police-officers-turn-off-body-cameras/
Be sure to un-mute the volume when you watch the video that accompanies the article.
I have my ideas of why they were told to turn the body cameras off before trying to take out the Las Vegas shooter but am interested to see if someone is thinking the same way I am.
The first atta-boy goes to the first person who can read my mind.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/videos/police-officers-turn-off-body-cameras/
I don't disagree with everything you said. I will add a few words about Trump.
It's true that he may not be trusted with the 2nd Amendment but we sure know what the alternative would get us.
Even though Trump is an outsider from the DC swamp, he is still a politician. He's not a gun guy in the sense that he knows everything about them.
After the Las Vegas shooting he probably felt he needed to do something. Now I don't agree with his feelings but stay with me on this.
The people that let us down on the bump stock issue was the NRA. As soon as the shooting was over with, the NRA basically gave the green light to Trump to treat the bump stocks like an NFA item.
When that happened, Trump was partially correct in thinking that the majority of gun owners could care less about bump stocks. The sad fact is there are too many gun owners that have the attitude of, "it doesn't affect me so why should I care."
As owners of suppressors, we are a political minority. Heck there are some gun owners who have looked me in the eye and said that there should be a complete ban on suppressors. Which causes me to question even their intelligence to be trusted with a gun.
So back to Trump. He's probably taking his cue from the NRA. Those ass-wipes have stabbed us in the back. I'm a life member but not going to resign my membership. On the other hand, I've told them to pound sand when they ask me for more money.
Unless we can convince Trump by the collective voice of other organizations (GOA, FPS, 2A Foundation, etc...) or our individual calls to the White House we can expect the NRA to roll over like a whore on Saturday night and tell him it's okay to stab us in the back.
On the other hand, we know exactly what the other side will do.
I rest my case. Only sheep rationalize. The Spartans would tear him a new one. Gun owners are laughed at while the Spartans are feared.
Let me know when gun owner’s balls drop......
Erich Pratt of GOA wrote and article on the Virginia Beach shooting:
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/05/pratt-virginia-beach-gun?src=alert060619
Listen to an interview of Erich Pratt. Note what he says about the CDC recommending the use of suppressors to prevent hearing loss. When I get the information compiled I post a link for another thread on that.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/05/pratt-virginia-beach-gun?src=alert060619
Listen to an interview of Erich Pratt. Note what he says about the CDC recommending the use of suppressors to prevent hearing loss. When I get the information compiled I post a link for another thread on that.
Here is a link to another thread on what the CDC and other health experts have to say about suppressors.
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...rts-recommend-the-use-of-suppressors.6946427/
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...rts-recommend-the-use-of-suppressors.6946427/
This is where you’re just peddling fear. What was the gun control that the Obama administration passed on the federal level? Democrats had a super majority his first 2 years in office and they passed Obama Care. They didn’t do anything with guns. Trump is in office with both chambers of Congress and we have a reclassification of bump stocks and no movement at all on guns. Where is the HPA and CCW reciprocity? At least with the Obama we knew he couldn’t do anything because the right had congress. Trump just oversteps his authority and shits on the 2A community.
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You are correct but I also think that the NRA gave him the green light to do that. That's all that I am basically saying.
And I'm just as pissed at the Republicans as you are.
The NRA folded like an over cooked noodle. IMO the best we can hope for as a community is that the dems never have the 3 chambers and the republicans don’t either. A stale mate government is the best we can hope for which is really sad.
I see your point but it's best to hold the GOP's feet to the fire.
The sad fact is there weren't a whole lot of people calling their congress critters to get the HPA and CCW reciprocity past.
There is no excuse for the GOP to sit on their lazy asses and do nothing except that people weren't putting pressure on them.
You seem to think there is a difference between the D's& R's, that is not reality, an has not been for the last 25 years, an that sir is pure fact. They both are engaged/support in the same agenda, an we are the quarry.
Exhibit A: This guy on YouTube, who does 2A news, had the unmitigated gall to criticize Trump-Jesus:
He then had to post a video explaining his critsim of Trump-Jesus. I have always said that there is only one thing more dangerous to 2A than an Anti 2A Democrat and that is a Pro 2A Republican. This is why ....:
He then had to post a video explaining his critsim of Trump-Jesus. I have always said that there is only one thing more dangerous to 2A than an Anti 2A Democrat and that is a Pro 2A Republican. This is why ....:
and to think this piece of trash used a suppressor they also used shoes pants and maybe a belt oh my should be ban clothing . if your naked its really hard to hide any hidden weapons of any kind well maybe a prison shank , while i am positive dims will jump at the chance to point out they used a suppressor and a weapon they will conveniently leave the rest out about the clothing and the car or truck they drove or maybe they used the subway , or buses .
Ha! My Dad's name was "Shirley" . He died last year at 94. WWII vet , Machine gunner, boxer, South Pacific, wounded in action. He was a tough man, as you can imagine with that name.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...-silencers/ar-AACFdm7?ocid=spartandhp#image=1
So the Supreme Court is NOT going there! What happened to all of the talk at the beginning of Trumps term about how they would push through a NFA repeal?
"President Donald Trump, a Republican with a close relationship to the National Rifle Association pro-gun lobby, said in an interview aired on June 5 that he does not like silencers and would be open to considering banning the devices. His administration this year imposed a ban on "bump stock" attachments that enable semi-automatic weapons to be fired rapidly, with the Supreme Court in March permitting the policy to take effect."
And Trump is willing to go after suppressors!
People had better wake up, or start selling your Cans before you have to take them to a scrap yard!
So the Supreme Court is NOT going there! What happened to all of the talk at the beginning of Trumps term about how they would push through a NFA repeal?
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-condemns-gun-silencers-after-virginia-beach-shooting-i-dont-like-them-at-all/
"President Donald Trump, a Republican with a close relationship to the National Rifle Association pro-gun lobby, said in an interview aired on June 5 that he does not like silencers and would be open to considering banning the devices. His administration this year imposed a ban on "bump stock" attachments that enable semi-automatic weapons to be fired rapidly, with the Supreme Court in March permitting the policy to take effect."
And Trump is willing to go after suppressors!
People had better wake up, or start selling your Cans before you have to take them to a scrap yard!
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