Night Vision Surefire Vampire Lights

[aslrookie]

I’m looking for some feedback on surefire vampire series lights. I need a white light for an SBR, and I’m playing with the idea of a white/IR light and then a DBAL I2. Would the vampire light have enough illumination to outperform a DBAL A3?

These are the lights I’m looking at

M313V | 3-Volt Vampire Scout Light® w/ DS-SR07-D-IT Switch Assembly & RM45 Mount | SureFire

The lightweight M313V Scout Light® weapon light generates a versatile 250-lumen tactical beam capable of temporarily overwhelming an aggressor’s dark-adapted vision and disorienting him. In infrared mode, the 100-milliwatt LED produces a beam invisible to the naked eye, for use on stealth...

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M603V | 6-Volt Vampire Scout Light® w/ DS-SR07-D-IT Switch Assembly & M75 Thumbscrew Mount | SureFire

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The smaller one would be nice for an SBR but the lumens is lower. Doesn’t show anything for candela specs on the white light. I don’t want a useless white light if I’m really compromising going with a dual white/IR light.

I just think it would be nice to have white/IR in the same light with a dual control switch and just use a DBAL I2.

 

[RTH1800]

I have a few of them and they are all bright enough for my uses. If you want one I will part with one.

 

[aslrookie]

I have a few of them and they are all bright enough for my uses. If you want one I will part with one.

Which model do you have?

 

[RTH1800]

I cannot say off the top of my head. One is gun mounted one not. Both take two CR 123's IIRC.

 

[smellofcordite]

I have a bunch of Surefire lights going back to the oldest styles. Only thing I do not like is the manual of arms with having to get your hand close to the business end of your rifle when switching modes.

They are bright enough in WL/IR but both sacrifice a little. I get mine off Ebay.

 

[newguy2k3v2]

They'll most likely be much brighter than the a3 illuminator. I have an old m952v that I rarely use but it works well. My only reservation with the vampire lights is that when I want white light I want it rfn because something has or is going sideways.

 

[Docsherm]

I have a full power PEQ 15 and only use my SureFire Vampire as an illustrator. It is bright and very effective.

 

[Wolffie]

Does anyone have issues with excessive spill causing the NODs to down gate when using the the vampire lights? I don’t have one. And am new to the world of NV. Was looking at one and someone whose opinion I trust indicated that it “could be an issue.” Because of the lack of focus adjustment.

ETA: he wasn’t bashing Surefire. Said they have plenty of pluses. And Actually sells them... in a way. I was just curious if anyone else had that experience. I’m leaning towards a TNVC torch because of that.

 

[aslrookie]

Does anyone have issues with excessive spill causing the NODs to down gate when using the the vampire lights? I don’t have one. And am new to the world of NV. Was looking at one and someone whose opinion I trust indicated that it “could be an issue.” Because of the lack of focus adjustment.

ETA: he wasn’t bashing Surefire. Said they have plenty of pluses. And Actually sells them... in a way. I was just curious if anyone else had that experience. I’m leaning towards a TNVC torch because of that.

Just based on my youtube research, the SF lights have more of a hot spot beam illumination, so there's not a lot of spill. The Inforce light had a lot more spill based on what I saw in the video. Unfortunately, I have no hands-on experience to reflect on. Just what I've seen on youtube videos.

 

[Docsherm]

Does anyone have issues with excessive spill causing the NODs to down gate when using the the vampire lights? I don’t have one. And am new to the world of NV. Was looking at one and someone whose opinion I trust indicated that it “could be an issue.” Because of the lack of focus adjustment.

ETA: he wasn’t bashing Surefire. Said they have plenty of pluses. And Actually sells them... in a way. I was just curious if anyone else had that experience. I’m leaning towards a TNVC torch because of that.

Again, i have a full power PEQ15 and i use a Surefire Vampire. That is one of the main realsons. The beam is easier to use. It looks cleaner and seems to work better. I have been usimg this set up since the Vampire ligjts first came out.