Swaging Bullets Question

[Strykervet]

So I saw an ad where a guy is selling 5.56 tracers loaded in 5.45 cases. Supposedly he resizes them first. I'm familiar with this having to resize pulled BMG bullets.

Which got me to thinking, that with the 9mm and quest for a better sub, could I not swage .357 158's to fit 9mm safely? Anyone do this?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Yes you can.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

One thing to keep in mind.
Jacketed projos are always smaller than a none jacketed projo as they will conform to the more bore easily, an bite better. Even at that, I run .310-.311 jacketed steel core in a std 30 cal US barrels at times, depending target.

 

[MarinePMI]

So I saw an ad where a guy is selling 5.56 tracers loaded in 5.45 cases. Supposedly he resizes them first. I'm familiar with this having to resize pulled BMG bullets.

Which got me to thinking, that with the 9mm and quest for a better sub, could I not swage .357 158's to fit 9mm safely? Anyone do this?

Yes. A push through type die works reasonably well. Guys on another forum were taking 5.7mm brass, filling them with lead and then swaging them down to size. While not an accurate bullet at long range, they were killing stuff at fairly normal (100 yds or so) timber hunting ranges, and the "bullets" expanded quite well (surprisingly). IIRC, they were shooting them out of .311 Enfields.

They were also swaging .375 bullets down to .366, since 9.3mm bullets are not available in a lot of different weights.

 

[jet_lagged]

Last year, American Reloading had Fiocchi 158's, but I don't see them now.

Might be worth trying the 165 from xtreme instead of the hassle of swaging?

I do find that the 158's put a bulge in the brass case, giving it an hourglass shape, but still feed fine in a MP-5 clone.

9mm 165 RN

9mm 165 RN

www.xtremebullets.com

 

[Strykervet]

Cool, I think I'll give it a try with Rainier plated bullets, they should be a good candidate for this.

Do they stabilize the same? Point of doing this is to create heavier subs for use in a suppressor so can't have any wobbling or keyholing.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The bulk of pistol bullets do not have issues like rifle projos do to shape. Now that said I do 44 rem mag an 444 marlin, both rifles. To 100 yds it's almost a none issue but 300gr projos are 24" plus in the 44 rm at 200 yds, but the 444 is 1-2 moa, (they have a huge twist rate difference). All the 9, 40 an 45acp I've shot have been a none issue at 50yds an in with much heavier than normal projos, from 100 out is another story. None to date have keyhole issues at 25 in.

 

[Strykervet]

Thanks man. I think I'd like to ask that in the can section and see if I get more responses about swaged bullets in a suppressor. God I'd hate to fuck one up.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

I'd just pull the can, bang a few, an if nose on at 25 your GTG