Tac Ops Rifles
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Not 308 but their 300WM stuff sucks.
Black Hills quality these days is nonexistent across product lines.
its ok as long as you leave some supply for us
That's a shame, long ago, it was top notch, I recall running through a 1k lot of it shooting the 1k line. that 190 grain stuff was smoking fast and accurate.
they got greedy honestly. The red box black hills 77gr stuff was reformulated with a shitty Hornady OTM instead of the sierras. The accuracy and SD/ESes of old are gone, but the prices have gone up lmfao
T308T is the shit in my TacOps. Shoots great.
Just picked up a “ Vintage” Sierra 51 ( another week before it gets out of jail
) and wanted to check. All my FGMM is 175gr.
When did that happen? I have some I ordered in Jan 2024 that has good sd/es. To me at least.
22°F/59%/29 inHg
Edit: I guess you are talking about the SMK version.
I think that ES sucks for what Black Hills charges.
I've gotten a 3.7 SD and 13 ES with 75gr Gold dots, and single digit SDs with Barnes loaded 70gr TSX.
Ah, I see. I guess I have low expectations as some (not all) recent Hornady 204 Superperformance 40gr ammo has had unreal bad sd/es.
It is supposed to have the same ogive profile as the regular 168SMK (forgiving design shoots well in everything) and, aside from the tip, the bullet construction is different. It’s geared more toward terminal performance instead of just punching paper.
It’s also a different bullet than the regular 168TMK and is not available as a component projectile.
so I know Federal T308T is the crème de la crème ammo for our TacOps toys but had anyone else tested other factory loads? I don’t want to blow through my stock just to bang steel so I need suggestions
Most factory ammo if it chambers will shoot well. There was a guy earlier in the thread who shot a 0.1 with winchester deer season
I have shot FGMM 168, 175 and the TT. It all feeds well and shoots well. The TT is excellent.
I only have the KM-OPS, my first and only Tac-Ops. Not sure why it doesn't like to chamber the FGGM. Easy fix though, I shoot the T308T and it excels with that cartridge!
I’ve shot the KM-OPS 51 with various ammo. Perhaps I’ll post up the results. I did have TWO rounds of 168FGMM not chamber, they did chamber and fire in another rifle.
Let me know if anyone wants data on different rounds.
if you can add different factory manufacturers and load. Really curious about Berger and Hornady offerings.So far I’ve tested:
167 Lapua Scenar
168 FGMM white/blk
168 FGMM Orange
168 FGMM New Production
168 T308T
168 Hornady A-Max
168 Norma Golden Target
168 Speer TMK
168 Winchester SMK projo
175 FGMM 7.62x51
175 M118LR
178 Hornady ELDX
180 Norma Bond Strike
185 FGMM Berg Juggs projo
185 Berger Juggs lapua brass
Still need to test:
130 Fed Varmint
168 Hornady Z-Max
175 Lapua Scenar
175 FGMM 308
Going off memory I think the only ones that were over 1” were the Norma Bond Strike
I’ll come back and add some data.
The REAL shocking was the POI shift. I’ll calculate that as well if I have the patience.
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Got a little something in this weekend. 
Mike is turning 49 and getting to old to shoot, so he called me up to start doing the test targets
Mike is turning 49 and getting to old to shoot, so he called me up to start doing the test targets
Tighten those groups up and he might let you start shipping the 3 speed blow up dolls!Got a little something in this weekend.
Mike is turning 49 and getting to old to shoot, so he called me up to start doing the test targets
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All factory ammo, pew'd w the KM OPS - 51 / Nomad30. I thought I did a better job recording the data but I am missing some anyway here ya go.
A couple of observations:
- Shocked the POI was almost zero across all flavors
- LC118LR marked "MATCH 77" was pure trash, sucks cause I have 200 rounds
-New Production 168 FGMM didn't shoot as well as the older stuff
-Spark TMK SD and grouping. @BurtG commented it was the most accurate ammo he ever shot, I was disappointed.
-Equally shocked the Norma Golden Target shot as well as it did w those numbers
A couple of observations:
- Shocked the POI was almost zero across all flavors
- LC118LR marked "MATCH 77" was pure trash, sucks cause I have 200 rounds
-New Production 168 FGMM didn't shoot as well as the older stuff
-Spark TMK SD and grouping. @BurtG commented it was the most accurate ammo he ever shot, I was disappointed.
-Equally shocked the Norma Golden Target shot as well as it did w those numbers
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I believe that he told me that it is a 10 twist
Interesting. My 185 Berger Juggs averaged 2575fps, 175gr Berger 2570fps, and T308T consistently around 2643fps (over a much larger sample) at ~300 above sea level spring/summer.
FWIW my Delta 51 preferred the 175 smk over the 168 smk and the T308T. I was all teed up to buy a bunch of the T308T at TargetSports USA and saw a noticeable preference for the 175 over multiple 5-shot groups. I also tried the Federal Terminal Asscent 175 and it did not like that round at all. I say that but it was probably still under MOA but I'm trying to post test target type groups and anything bigger than .3 MOA sucks.
Testing took place when it was either too hot or too cold. I spent the 3 really GREEAT days working or I was sick.
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