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alpine44 - others who disagree or are conflicted about our zero tolerance policy.
Simple point, this is not the forum to debate the politics or the negative aspects of individual officers or agencies. We have rules, following them is very simple, you either do, or you move on. My rules regarding politics are long standing, this site works as well as it does because of them. You can disagree, but you can't break them. Disagreeing gives you the choice to change the channel, but not change the rules or swing the conversation towards your disagreement thus breaking the rules.
The are of course exceptions to everything, but automatically defaulting to the negative examples serves nobody. There are plenty of places on the internet to rant and rave about government overreach or over zealous officers. You fail to include Soldiers who crossed the line, because it does and has happened. When I drove to TX this month, I was pulled over while going the speed limit. The officer told me in one breathe I was 2MPH over, and later when I asked I was fine. It was a pretext to search the car for drugs because I had CO plates. I didn't come to SH and vent, I didn't post in my own forum about the BS of being stopped for no reason, I made a post on FB. While I am constantly reminded that the rules don't apply to me, I followed the rules because SH is not the venue for it. There is no reason to start a debate about my in inconvenience driving at the expense of my members who are LE Officers who don't act that way. I get it, bullshit as it was, I am not gonna hate on the group because of it.
Our members are made of the very groups you're painting with a broad brush. You're attacking not just the small number of problem officers we have but all of them. Most of you are unable to separate the good from the bad in these debates so it's easier to paint the entire system as corrupt which isolates your follow members. Guys with real knowledge have no interest in taking part in the negativity you create with this thinly veiled political statement. The no politics rule is there for a reason, it keeps us civil, it allows the active duty members as as well as the agency people to visit without fear of some politically appointed leader over them pointing the finger back and taking your words out on them. You don't get it, if you allow them ( your political foes) to paint all of us with a single brush, it's easier to minimize or isolate the place. You give them ammo to shut down our work on the inside because you got all of us labeled on the outside. Plenty of us quietly move within circles we would not be able to roam if the label was so easily attached.
The rules are long standing and clear. You choose to jump in this topic and change the discussion and violate the rules willingly because you feel you know something everyone else doesn't. We get it, bad apples, corruptions exists, but you will not attack my members with your generalizations and paint all with that brush and get away with it. I have been as clear as I could be, and the only reason I make "calls to order " is because you guys, ( and you know who you are ) feel you know better. If you didn't constantly ignore my rules I would not have to made the asshole and enforce them. It sort of works in your favor. In your twisted way, you knowingly break my rules, force me to enforce them then go off and talk shit about what an asshole I am. What a tyrant, A Napoleon complex, etc. meanwhile what is always ignored is the other side of the equation.
This is not the forum for it, don't like the topic, move on. It will fall away and die on the vine. You can add something to the conversation you do like and bury it. You can PM the OP and say, bad form, enough of those I get people asking me to remove stuff every week. But what you won't do is break the rules, and attack a group of our members because of what happened in a single incident. I get it the current climate is not unnoticed, but you're not gonna riot here.
It's really easy, the only thing that makes it hard is you.
