lol ok sportI did when I opted to carry an M110 on raids in Afghanistan.
Tell us all your military experience and background.
there's always one oddball
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lol ok sportI did when I opted to carry an M110 on raids in Afghanistan.
Tell us all your military experience and background.
that's correctThat might sound good in theory. However, there is a big difference between it being authorized for use (or programmed as you stated) versus it actually being available.
But I made that point pretty clear in my original post so I guess you were saying that just to have something to say. Especially since I also made it clear 77 gr was for SOF.
I'm glad you brought your dumb insults and your stupid statements out to the main chat for all to see.Just because you requested it and didn't get it doesn't mean your Group didn't receive it in your annual allotment. AA53/ 77gr is programmed in the P11 for SFAUCs. A line Company traditionally hasn't received it for random Detachment training. But as a random Bravo on a Bteam you wouldn't know that. That fact is SF Groups are programmed it in the STRAC and receive it. You just didn't in your small neck of the woods.
I'm absolutely positive if I did a google search I could find several things to say anything I want, no matter the truth.
Up to... not all!!!I'm absolutely positive if I did a google search I could find several things to say anything I want, no matter the truth.
Those sites you posted are just repeating what SIG told them, VERBATIM.
Fuck that.
Weigh an empty 308 case yourself.
Now tell me how much of that weight cam be trimmed off while making a safe to use case of the same dimensions out of a different material.
Remember, the powder is still going to be there along with the primer and the bullet, only the material making the case has changed.
40% my ass.
I have seen it plenty, it was actually one of the biggest complaints in Afghanistan. The 5.56 NATO out of 10.5" to 16" barreled rifles starts to become ineffective (real world) out past 500 meters. Various deployed elements tried different solutions like the SCAR.never has a soldier said, 'I'll take 30% less ammo so I can have a flatter shooting round with more energy when 90% of global engagements are inside 300 meters
Dude, get the dick out yo mouth.Up to... not all!!!
It depends on the cartridge, the percentages vary. .50 cal it’s about a 23% weight savings, or 7 pounds out of 100 rounds. Something like 556 where the case makes up 55 to 60% of the whole cartridge weight you’re gonna have a higher percentage with it.
Assuming a 30% reduction in a 7.62 cartridge. A 7.62 case is around 180, cartridge around, 380. 30% of the cartridge weight (380)(.30) is 114. 180-114 is 66grain. Which equal a 63.5% weight savings in the polymer over brass case only. As a ballpark guess that sounds very possible. Ie polymer being much lighter than brass!
I noticed you keep making all these claims of how it’s not possible but you aren’t listing any examples or information proving it. Sounds like those Oxy’s are starting to effect your cognitive ability.
Bottom line is polymer ammo is lighter, and the different cartridge sizes, is going to effect the over all percentages.
If you need something to occupy your self you can find bags of dicks on Amazon, likely get free shipping too...
or we could fight wars the way they are meant to be fought and annihilate our enemies ala Le May style and not worry about the little things. I kid but I don'tI have read a fair amount about this new round, and it looks great. 80,000 psi is capable because the first portion of the round is stainless steel, and it can handle the high pressure. They are saying slightly over 3,000 fps is currently working with a 140 grain bullet.
One of the reasons for a new round is that many enemies are now using soft body armor. Apparently it can be purchased on the street for $200 in the middle east. I think Sig did a great job developing this round, and it will save American lives. The rifle itself will be 2 lbs. heavier, but far more deadly.
The bullets they plan to use in the .277 Fury/6.8x51 are lighter than used in the 308.I'm absolutely positive if I did a google search I could find several things to say anything I want, no matter the truth.
Those sites you posted are just repeating what SIG told them, VERBATIM.
Fuck that.
Weigh an empty 308 case yourself.
Now tell me how much of that weight cam be trimmed off while making a safe to use case of the same dimensions out of a different material.
Remember, the powder is still going to be there along with the primer and the bullet, only the material making the case has changed.
40% my ass.
It is new cheap hard armor that they are concerned about. Any high power rifle rounds will zip right through soft IIIA armor.I have read a fair amount about this new round, and it looks great. 80,000 psi is capable because the first portion of the round is stainless steel, and it can handle the high pressure. They are saying slightly over 3,000 fps is currently working with a 140 grain bullet.
One of the reasons for a new round is that many enemies are now using soft body armor. Apparently it can be purchased on the street for $200 in the middle east. I think Sig did a great job developing this round, and it will save American lives. The rifle itself will be 2 lbs. heavier, but far more deadly.
it's incredibly shortsighted to worry about body armor as the technology will never beat it in both a practical sense and cost. For every measure, there is a counter measure. I'd rather 200 more f22s, more training, and better tacticsIt is new cheap hard armor that they are concerned about. Any high power rifle rounds will zip right through soft IIIA armor.
I think 80,000 psi might be the reason....is there a reason they didnt just rechamber existing M4s in 6.8?.....
are there any real short comings with existing platforms that required a new rifle?......or is this just the Army wanting to spend money?