The Cone of Shame

I would share a pithy response but I need to go clean my 1911.

:)

-Stan
I was resolved to be a responsible member of American society so at 18 years old I went to a gun show (so no "papers") and bought a fighting rifle (Mini 14) and at 21yo a fighting pistol (1911). Call me a FUD. It took almost 4 decades for me to breakdown and buy a suppressor and give up on the old 45 acp.
 
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@sab567 needs to test one of these

His video he just released with the final results of testing pretty much confirmed what most figured.

A Fat Bastard Gen 3 when from around 90% to under 60% with the addition of the cone. It dropped from 9/29 to 29/29 (dead last) in recoil reduction once the cone was added.
 
Uhm, what?

What level of complexity?

Threading the bastard on and off.

Don't you know how difficult that can be?
Lookit how many guys refuse to unscrew their dies from the press when they are done with a loading session.
The suppressor would add another step or two before the commencement of firing.



That shit is complex and time consuming...🙄


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Well, it started with a bit of a tongue in cheek post about the 'blast deflection' nut APA is selling, which apparently reduces the effectiveness of the brake for recoil reduction by about 1/2 but is nice for the she-men here that are concussion sensitive. Then @BurtG started an argument that people who use brakes have shitty fundamentals then we started arguing about poor heathen brake shooters vs master race suppressor shooters.

Tldr; honestly, I really don't know what the shit is going on in here. 🤣

So, SOP then. 😁


This wouldn't be Chez Frank if threads stayed on topic.
That's nearly 72.364% of the fun around here.
 
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His video he just released with the final results of testing pretty much confirmed what most figured.

A Fat Bastard Gen 3 when from around 90% to under 60% with the addition of the cone. It dropped from 9/29 to 29/29 (dead last) in recoil reduction once the cone was added.
Physics is a cruel mistress
 
So, on a related note… From a “I want to have an effective brake, but don’t want all the concussion” perspective, can we finally all agree that blast shields are almost entirely worthless. I mean, this “limited edition washer” blocks one baffle and substantially reduces the effectiveness of the fat bastard brake. But, you block all of the baffles with a blast shield and “it’s the best of both worlds?” Give me a fucking break.

I do see one use for a blast shield. I have this fantasy of building up a 12.5” 6.5 G AR15 with a 15” handguard. It would be shot almost exclusively using a suppressor. But, I’d like to have a blast shield long enough to get the gas exit beyond the handguard on those rare occasions when I might not shoot suppressed. (It seems fairly common for comps that use report reliant shot timers to disallow suppressor use for safety concerns- the ro must be too close to the muzzle for the timer to work…)
 
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So, on a related note… From a “I want to have an effective brake, but don’t want all the concussion” perspective, can we finally all agree that blast shields are almost entirely worthless. I mean, this “limited edition washer” blocks one baffle and substantially reduces the effectiveness of the fat bastard brake. But, you block all of the baffles with a blast shield and “it’s the best of both worlds?” Give me a fucking brake.

I do see one use for a blast shield. I have this fantasy of building up a 12.5” 6.5 G AR15 with a 15” handguard. It would be shot almost exclusively using a suppressor. But, I’d like to have a blast shield long enough to get the gas exit beyond the handguard on those rare occasions when I might not shoot suppressed. (It seems fairly common for comps that use report reliant shot timers to disallow suppressor use for safety concerns- the ro must be too close to the muzzle for the timer to work…)
I decided that they were worthless after post 1
 
So, on a related note… From a “I want to have an effective brake, but don’t want all the concussion” perspective, can we finally all agree that blast shields are almost entirely worthless. I mean, this “limited edition washer” blocks one baffle and substantially reduces the effectiveness of the fat bastard brake. But, you block all of the baffles with a blast shield and “it’s the best of both worlds?” Give me a fucking break.

I do see one use for a blast shield. I have this fantasy of building up a 12.5” 6.5 G AR15 with a 15” handguard. It would be shot almost exclusively using a suppressor. But, I’d like to have a blast shield long enough to get the gas exit beyond the handguard on those rare occasions when I might not shoot suppressed. (It seems fairly common for comps that use report reliant shot timers to disallow suppressor use for safety concerns- the ro must be too close to the muzzle for the timer to work…)

Yep. Unfortunately there is no free lunch. The most effect brakes are always going to be the most uncomfortable on the shooter.

That doesn't mean that some people won't shoot better with a more comfortable brake....just that on paper it doesn't reduce recoil more than the less comfortable brakes.

Just the way it works.