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Knowing the man personally, I would say this is a big no. The Barloc was born from the market demand of folks wanting to swap barrels with as little effort as possible. That's it. Over the last few years, the Barloc has been shown to come with some baggage in certain instances. If every manufacturer in existence got everything "right" the first go around, then Henry Ford, the Dodge Brothers, and Bill Gates would also be gimmick peddlers as well.
Implying that there was some sort of nefarious intent is a bit of a slap and there's no reason for it. Ted is not a fink.
Wanna really solve this? How bout we all just "man up" and buy the right tools so that a direct fit barrel can be removed/installed the way it has been proven to work for centuries.
I offer this:
IF you are a "gun nut" then this shit is in your blood and you'll be doing it for the rest of your life. Who buys one fishing pole and one hook? Acquiring a collection of "gun stuff" is part of the whole gig, so why not just squirrel a few dollars away and buy the right shit from the start?
I think the Xylo will grow on people because everything is very purposeful.
For a real ugly one I give you the Woox Furiosa:
This looks like the Terminator when half of his face is missing. I like them both. Less nonsense on the Xylo.
So Ted sells a gimmick and everyone is ok with that? I had no idea and it sucks to learn that now.
Where I get hung up is the aesthetics.
I find that sexy.
I find that sexy.
XLR may not have the prettiest, but it's a damn sight better than this.
This is th ugliest thing since the McRees chassis.
Oh no! If it ain’t pretty on Instagram, I don’t want it.
I'm going to make a matching walnut cheek piece for mine. The butt needs more wood. The forend does not.
I’m hoping more info comes out after shot.This thread started out with promise of ARC awesomeness and diverged quickly away from the main intent, any updates on the complete setup Pictured?
Same.I was hoping to see videos of Ted and the ARC booth at SHOT.
I guess there is no pre-order this year unless it's the rifle above and they haven't said anything about that.
I couldn’t agree more. Every type of firearm that I own and intend to use , I own tools to work on it. If I don’t have the tools or knowledge I know someone who does. Honestly this quick change shit is overrated. With some simple tools any common bolt action is a switch barrel.Knowing the man personally, I would say this is a big no. The Barloc was born from the market demand of folks wanting to swap barrels with as little effort as possible. That's it. Over the last few years, the Barloc has been shown to come with some baggage in certain instances. If every manufacturer in existence got everything "right" the first go around, then Henry Ford, the Dodge Brothers, and Bill Gates would also be gimmick peddlers as well.
Implying that there was some sort of nefarious intent is a bit of a slap and there's no reason for it. Ted is not a fink.
Wanna really solve this? How bout we all just "man up" and buy the right tools so that a direct fit barrel can be removed/installed the way it has been proven to work for centuries.
I offer this:
IF you are a "gun nut" then this shit is in your blood and you'll be doing it for the rest of your life. Who buys one fishing pole and one hook? Acquiring a collection of "gun stuff" is part of the whole gig, so why not just squirrel a few dollars away and buy the right shit from the start?
This is a joke, right ??I don't whack my barrel but I've noticed when I transport my rifle to ranges, my first shot would be off at 100 while the rest of the groups would be touching. I always attested it to me being the cold shooter. I actually bought the nucleus because of the Barloc but I wasn't informed that poi shifts were ok by Ted. I feel cheated, lesson learned.
Ten years ago, I would have said yes.
Now I have met several people who could probably say something that dumb in complete sincerity.
I think he should dust off the 2019 SHOT show Mausingfield and see if he can make it in to a budget two lug CRF action at the Nucleus price point. Add a big Magnum Archimedes that abandons the Remington 700 footprint. Add more flavors of Xylo chassis but try to bring the price back to $1,000 or less and I showed him an idea for a trigger that he seemed to like.
If he did that, I think his product lineup would address most people's wants with a quality product.
I think ARC could do that over the next few years if they see the value in optimizing their product lineup instead of focusing only on individual products.
I like the new bolt release but the old rail interface looked a lot cleaner.Mausingfield should revert back to the M5 version, as that was pretty much perfection IMO
My point is on the budget side they should have two and three lug options at $1,000 or less.Mausingfield should revert back to the M5 version, as that was pretty much perfection IMO
My point is on the budget side they should have two and three lug options at $1,000 or less.
For a flagship, Archimedes and a high end flavor of Mausingfield (I don't know which flavor).
For boomers, an Archimedes Magnum.
It seems like the forces driving the Mausingfield are $$$ light weight mountain rifle customers. Would they be ok with an M5?
I’m sure the people buying the majority of them swayed his decision.I really don't know about the popularity but the direct mount titanium rings make it seem that way.
LolI'm not sure you are really suffering...
Hard to make a call one way or the other on a Nucleus vs. M5 MF. I think the Nuke might actually be better suited for PRS style events. My M5 (s/n 29) has 10k+ rounds through it now and it's so smooth & wore in it's retarded. I have a pair of Danner RAT's that I got issued on deployment when I was in the USMC and I've worn them to death. I refer to them as heavy slippers because they fit so well and that's kind of the same sentiment I have for my M5 now. That all said, the Nuke has a sharper 'pop' to it, more distinct clicks when operating the bolt, but it's damn fast and slick.
To be honest, and this is entirely selfish, I was excited to see the changes to the M7 because I'm looking to build a L/A hunting rifle, and the only thing that could make it better would be direct-attach aluminum rings that aren't Ti priced.
Lol
My nuke running 7 saum is running like a top.
I love that rifle.
It made me a total ARC fanboy.
I've been doing a lot of mental gymnastics trying to convince myself that selling my T3 CTR and putting together another Nuke build for twice the cost is a fiscally responsible thing to do despite a possible move across the country in the near future. Sometimes I wish the responsible adult side of my brain would simmer down long enough for me to enter my credit card information.
similar problem with my Savage.
Do it. I sold all my bolt actions, and an awesome tricked out Savage was the last one to go with multiple bolts, chassis and stocks. Only thing I wish were different would be having the tooless Nuke bolt.
I like having better guns than lots of guns.
I have a single digit SN Nucleus I love, an Archimedes and a second Nuke I picked up. Both Nuke are original, only the bolt heads and springs are changed.
I agreeMausingfield should revert back to the M5 version, as that was pretty much perfection IMO
The Archimedes has some high end features that the Nucleus does not. The integrated recoil lug is expensive to add because you have to start with a much bigger piece of steel and machine more of it away. Beside that, the way the Archimedes does primary extraction seems perfect if you are pushing the pressure limits of your brass.How do you find the Arch vs the Nuke? Worth the cost difference?
The Archimedes has some high end features that the Nucleus does not. The integrated recoil lug is expensive to add because you have to start with a much bigger piece of steel and machine more of it away. Beside that, the way the Archimedes does primary extraction seems perfect if you are pushing the pressure limits of your brass.
Archimedes seems ideal for something like a 338 RUM, 300 PRC or a 28 Nosler. A short action is probably ideal for a SAUM, WSM or another fat case wildcat.
A Nucleus seems good for everything that isn't pushing too hard. The price difference between a 1.1 and an Archimedes is $600 so I think the Archimedes is a value for people who really want an integrated recoil lug or they are shooting something hot enough to worry about sticky bolts.
When I bought my Archimedes, it was pre-order price and a Nucleus 1.0 was $1,000 so my premium was $120 which isn't much (and I wasn't expecting the integrated recoil lug).
Combined with my Xylo pre-order, I'm saving $780. If I needed another, I could almost buy a Nucleus 1.1 with the money I have saved.
I was a bit surprised when I met him.Mad scientist.