Trying to get the new 6.5 ready for this weekend for some shooting and opinions on it. The 308 I also own with green mountain has been shooting well.
The Fix from Q
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We must have the same Barrel maker & Barrel smith! They are both (I want to say the best, but I am NOT that guy referred to by his initials) at the very top in their respective fields!!
B&T goes together like PB&J!!
I find it funny and sad that there are so many lowlifes that hop into a thread about a gun they have never shot, never owned and no interest in just to bash anyone who does and the owner of the company.
@79steeler Rothlisberger....................
@MysizeisMAGNUM The entire Vikings team...................
I have one, I have every right to speak up and hopefully save others the headache of pre-ordering and seeing people who ordered after you get their guns while that person waits up to 18 months..
During the very first Q&A you stated the Extensions would be open sourced when asked about barrel availability. Now you’re impeding customers from acquiring the barrels in the caliber they wish!! Why would you market it as a quick change caliber/barrel and then withhold the key part to do so?
I watched that first Q&A Session, I know what you said about Open Sourcing the Extensions. ?
I am not trolling anyone, just answering the question from KB and addressing the fact I own one and the problems I experienced
@tinytigers - That Horus scope brings back memories. I used to have one and liked it for what it was......until it broke hard.
The entire internal assembly containing the reticle was just flopping around in the scope. You could shake the scope and hear it rattle inside. The company couldn't repair it in the US. It was also outside of their (I believe) 1 Year warranty period, so they didn't offer to replace. They gave me a small credit and when I tried to contact them about using it heard radio silence.
Sorry - didn't mean to hijack this thread. Just carry a backup scope
The entire internal assembly containing the reticle was just flopping around in the scope. You could shake the scope and hear it rattle inside. The company couldn't repair it in the US. It was also outside of their (I believe) 1 Year warranty period, so they didn't offer to replace. They gave me a small credit and when I tried to contact them about using it heard radio silence.
Sorry - didn't mean to hijack this thread. Just carry a backup scope
That was never the plan.I have one, I have every right to speak up and hopefully save others the headache of pre-ordering and seeing people who ordered after you get their guns while that person waits up to 18 months..
During the very first Q&A you stated the Extensions would be open sourced when asked about barrel availability. Now you’re impeding customers from acquiring the barrels in the caliber they wish!! Why would you market it as a quick change caliber/barrel and then withhold the key part to do so?
I watched that first Q&A Session, I know what you said about Open Sourcing the Extensions. ?
Thank you. We are.
BTW, the best groups ever shot are with current Q production barrels, not B/T barrels.
Glad things are going well.
In all seriousness, is there any $3000 or even $4000 rifle that comes with a B/T barrel?
Some original AT’s did, a touch over 4K tho so no, not technically. Then they went with WinTac... we won’t get into why... lol
Inversely, does any other rifle over 3K come with a Green Mountain? They seem to be doing the trick, just not so well known in the “Precision” community. Good on them for taking the leap IMO.
Kevin what’s the word on the 8.6? Have you done any supersonic testing out of a 16” barrel with 285-300gr bullets? If so what kind of velocity did you see?
Kevin, I have had my Fix for some time now, its a very exciting rifle, but the lack of barrel options is beginning to be a big issue for me. Say what you will about the awesomeness of the Green Mountain barrels, but I have not had the greatest luck. It'll stack two, and sometimes three, but then throw one or two out. It's certainly acceptable accuracy, but I wouldn't call it a hammer by any means.
I am getting extremely frustrated that I have a "switch-barrel" rifle with no way to get another barrel for it. I can't even put my name on a pre-order list for another barrel at some point in the future, much less have the ability to choose my own adventure in terms of length and contour. I am literally stuck with the Green Mountain until such time as you see fit to grace us with some more barrels.
Like many here, I was definitely under the impression that barrel extensions would be made available. Can I purchase a Proof blank and send it to you guys in order to get a different configuration? Will you chamber it?
My guess is that you'll tell me how busy ya'all are at Q and that you don't have time to make my custom barrel. That's fair enough, but it doesn't fix my problem.
I think its time to either release the barrel extension as you said you would, or pick a few smith's and/or companies to give it to so that they can do Fix barrels for folks like me. Because honestly, I'm considering selling my Fix and just going back to my Defiance 700 clone. The Fix does have design advantages, but there's a helluva lot more folks out there that can support and work on my Deviant.
Everyone in manufacturing always says to just wait a little longer, but there comes a point where ya either have to shit, or get off the pot. In this case, its time to admit that you can't keep up with the demand, and get the barrel extension out there so that you retain your customers.
I am getting extremely frustrated that I have a "switch-barrel" rifle with no way to get another barrel for it. I can't even put my name on a pre-order list for another barrel at some point in the future, much less have the ability to choose my own adventure in terms of length and contour. I am literally stuck with the Green Mountain until such time as you see fit to grace us with some more barrels.
Like many here, I was definitely under the impression that barrel extensions would be made available. Can I purchase a Proof blank and send it to you guys in order to get a different configuration? Will you chamber it?
My guess is that you'll tell me how busy ya'all are at Q and that you don't have time to make my custom barrel. That's fair enough, but it doesn't fix my problem.
I think its time to either release the barrel extension as you said you would, or pick a few smith's and/or companies to give it to so that they can do Fix barrels for folks like me. Because honestly, I'm considering selling my Fix and just going back to my Defiance 700 clone. The Fix does have design advantages, but there's a helluva lot more folks out there that can support and work on my Deviant.
Everyone in manufacturing always says to just wait a little longer, but there comes a point where ya either have to shit, or get off the pot. In this case, its time to admit that you can't keep up with the demand, and get the barrel extension out there so that you retain your customers.
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I have one, I have every right to speak up and hopefully save others the headache of pre-ordering and seeing people who ordered after you get their guns while that person waits up to 18 months..
During the very first Q&A you stated the Extensions would be open sourced when asked about barrel availability. Now you’re impeding customers from acquiring the barrels in the caliber they wish!! Why would you market it as a quick change caliber/barrel and then withhold the key part to do so?
I watched that first Q&A Session, I know what you said about Open Sourcing the Extensions. ?
Then yes, you have every right to come into this thread and voice your opinion, complaint, etc. I see no issue with that and I personally appreciate the information from people that have direct experience, whether good or bad.
AI stopped using B/T.
Over $4,000 is far from $3,000.
$3,000 for The Fix is the best value in firearms. The price is for all of the innovation...weight, trigger, switch barrel, folding stock, one piece receiver, no chassis, Q-Sert, fully adjustable stock, AR controls, detachable SR-25 mag, tapered muzzle, 45 degree bolt throw, receiver rails, sear in bolt, 2 second bolt handle swap, multi cal, etc. It's very expensive to develop new things.
We now use multiple production barrel vendors. These new barrels have shot the best groups ever with The Fix, not the B/T barrels.
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Moving forward, submitting to SAAMI. Most work has been on the subs, its the toughest. Super testing has been focused on 12.5" barrels. 150gr. at 2550fps
I would suggest re-torque all of the rail and receiver screws, especially if you've previously removed them. Or send it on RMA and we will gladly handle it and return it within days. All of The Fix rifles are shot for accuracy before shipped. 5 shot groups, not 3.
Accessories barrels are coming. Sorry for the delays.
I believe Proof now has barrel extensions and can build you a barrel. If so, they have drawings and can chamber them, as they chamber ours. We have never rejected a single Proof barrel for quality, including chamber. Their barrels are incredible. You can also use your current extension.
I never said I would release extensions for general consumption. And I'm not doing that. I said I will release them to a few selected barrels makers. Proof is the first, APA is likely the second.
I agree, you have more options with Remington clones. Not sure if they have a switch barrel or not.
And yes, things are taking off faster than expected. Extensions, and other key components are used for production rifles.
I appreciate your support and insight, but I will continue to make the decisions for Q that I feel are best for quality, customers, employees, and the future. On the bright side, with current demand, you can sell The Fix for more than you paid for it.
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@Kevin Brittingham will proof chamber a barrel using their stainless steel barrels or just their carbon fiber barrels?
They do both for us. They are both excellent.
great, I will contact them about a new barrel then, thanks for the quick response!
What am I doing wrong.....
I just received my Fix - 24" 6.5 Creedmoor Proof barrel. I took it to the range yesterday for the first time giddy with excitement. Loaded 50 ladder test rounds using Lapua small primer brass, Hodgdon H4350, CCI 450 Primers, and 123gr Lapua Scenar Bullets, no pressure signs. Shot off a concrete bench with an Atlas bipod and a rear bag. Scope is a Leupold MK5 HD in an ADM Mount (proven reliable on another rifle).
It's really disappointing that this appears to be a 2MOA gun without a distinct vertical or horizontal dispersion pattern. It irked me that the guy net to me with a Howa 1500 was printing 1/2" groups. The only thing I can think is that the 123gr bullets may be over-stabilized for the 1:8 twist rate.
Images below. Advice?
I just received my Fix - 24" 6.5 Creedmoor Proof barrel. I took it to the range yesterday for the first time giddy with excitement. Loaded 50 ladder test rounds using Lapua small primer brass, Hodgdon H4350, CCI 450 Primers, and 123gr Lapua Scenar Bullets, no pressure signs. Shot off a concrete bench with an Atlas bipod and a rear bag. Scope is a Leupold MK5 HD in an ADM Mount (proven reliable on another rifle).
It's really disappointing that this appears to be a 2MOA gun without a distinct vertical or horizontal dispersion pattern. It irked me that the guy net to me with a Howa 1500 was printing 1/2" groups. The only thing I can think is that the 123gr bullets may be over-stabilized for the 1:8 twist rate.
Images below. Advice?
Kevin B. -
I have a Fix with 16 inch 308 barrel and really like it a lot. A huge reason I decided to buy the Fix rifle is the claim that you could buy different caliber barrels and the rifle had a "quick change" feature. Well, I am still waiting for the opportunity to buy a 6.5 Creed barrel to use.
In post # 3,154 , you offered someone the possibility of having a barrel made and then send it to you to have your barrel extension added to it. I want a Proof Research 20 inch barrel in 6.5 Creed to use with my Fix rifle. Can I send a Proof Research barrel to you and have a Fix extension put on it? This seems to be the only way I will be able to get a second barrel for my Fix rifle.
I have a Fix with 16 inch 308 barrel and really like it a lot. A huge reason I decided to buy the Fix rifle is the claim that you could buy different caliber barrels and the rifle had a "quick change" feature. Well, I am still waiting for the opportunity to buy a 6.5 Creed barrel to use.
In post # 3,154 , you offered someone the possibility of having a barrel made and then send it to you to have your barrel extension added to it. I want a Proof Research 20 inch barrel in 6.5 Creed to use with my Fix rifle. Can I send a Proof Research barrel to you and have a Fix extension put on it? This seems to be the only way I will be able to get a second barrel for my Fix rifle.
No such thing as over stable at 1:8
Those barrels were amazing with 140 gr ELD match. Sub 1/2 MOA.
Looks like you are using quality components, try heavier projectiles? Check torque on receiver and rail screws.
I'm sure you haven't MidCarolina'd your scope, but make sure it's tight in the mount and mount is tight to the rail.
Let me know if you can't or don't want to sort it. You can RMA it to us and we will gladly do it for you.
I get it. We have had various barrels and calibers at various times offered on our site.
I believe Proof has some extensions. If not, yes, send it to us.
Pretty sure he meant send the barrel you want in and theyll do it up with an extension for the fix
@Kevin Brittingham - Thanks for the reply. I'll try some 140 Barnes Match Burners and see how these perform. Appreciate the offer to diagnose but will try a few things first. Scope is mounted rock solid.
Awesome! I will first try to buy a complete barrel thru Proof Research. If that does not work, I will get a blank from them and send it to you. Thanks for the reply.
We got those results with your batch of Proof barrels with Hornady factory loaded ammo, btw.
KB,
Thanks again for taking the time to be accessible.
Sorry to press the question, but I’m in Australia and would really like additional barrels. The sole distributor does not seem interested in importing/selling additional barrels.
What are my options?
Cheers.
Do we need to get pre approval? What’s the cost? Are you chambering or just attaching the bolt ext?
