The new trend started this week,

[Lowlight]

So a new trend has started on SH,

Guys are purchasing the "$20 Donation" and then once they figure out it is not a shortcut to the PX, they are asking for refunds

I know everyone is trying to game the system and figure out how to use the PX without paying all the upgrade amount, but give me a break.

The PX is seriously getting out of hand, and guys are force me to make it a paid service, and by that I mean 100% paid

The cost was raised to reduce some traffic, so now everyone is trying to find a way around it.

If someone sees a social post instructing people how to game the PX on another platform, post it, so I can ban the explainers

 

[2ndamendfan]

The level of stupid is amazing.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The level of stupid is amazing.

Not really. What you are seeing is what is happening all over this country,... it's called gaming the system. This country is full of those types, so why would here be any different? The only thing they mostly understand is a fat lip, or worst. It's in every part/place of this country now.

 

[Lowlight]

Wait,

I got an email back after I refunded the payment that it was my fault for having a poorly written upgrade...

Okay I don't see how you can confuse the two, I but I changed it to be more clear upfront after I banned the douchebag

Most, if not all of this stuff is certainly my fault, which is why I had to refund multiple people trying the same thing.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Asking for a refund for a Donation that is clearly listed as: "Sniper's Hide Site Support Donation" when you find out it's not a back door way to scam the site out of the normal payment required, pretty much means they are scum and probably past redemption.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Wait,

I got an email back after I refunded the payment that it was my fault for having a poorly written upgrade...

Okay I don't see how you can confuse the two, I but I changed it to be more clear upfront after I banned the douchebag

Most, if not all of this stuff is certainly my fault, which is why I had to refund multiple people trying the same thing.

I vote you "Refund" them with you right foot,...

 

[Lowlight]

I banned this guy for sure

I think I banned another, everyone said it was a mistake.

Sorry like noted everyone is gaming the system and that is exactly what is being tried here.

 

[Spblademaker]

Wow. If they need the $20 so bad maybe they can go be poor on gunbroker.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Most, if not all of this stuff is certainly my fault, which is why I had to refund multiple people trying the same thing.

I'm assuming putting your hand over the collection basket and reminding them that there is no taking back donations would result in even more stupid whining?

 

[smoooth1]

So a new trend has started on SH,

Guys are purchasing the "$20 Donation" and then once they figure out it is not a shortcut to the PX, they are asking for refunds

I know everyone is trying to game the system and figure out how to use the PX without paying all the upgrade amount, but give me a break.

The PX is seriously getting out of hand, and guys are force me to make it a paid service, and by that I mean 100% paid

The cost was raised to reduce some traffic, so now everyone is trying to find a way around it.

If someone sees a social post instructing people how to game the PX on another platform, post it, so I can ban the explainers

WOW!!! …..WTF!!!

Are these the same people who had been hitting the "Report" button recently??

 

[Lowlight]

Honestly I may have to explore a way to go straight up Gunbroker type PX with built-in automation that charges people a percentage of a post

Maybe I can get one of these sugar daddies people like to use to bankroll my new venture. Sniper's Hide Gun Sales, have built-in fees and shit because I am getting a bit tired of being taken advantage of

 

[Arc Light]

That is seriously messed up, but not surprising. Freeloaders and entitlement mentality is ruining a lot of great things in this country.

What does Gunbroker charge to sell, 10%? eBay is 10%, if you can even list it since they are hardcore anti-gun.

 

[Lowlight]

I refund immediately where warranted and if you ask me for one, regardless if it is a donation, I apply it in seconds

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Honestly I may have to explore a way to go straight up Gunbroker type PX with built-in automation that charges people a percentage of a post

Maybe I can get one of these sugar daddies people like to use to bankroll my new venture. Sniper's Hide Gun Sales, have built-in fees and shit because I am getting a bit tired of being taken advantage of

As much shit as that place as caused over the years, I'm surprised it's still in it's original conception.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

I refund immediately where warranted and if you ask me for one, regardless if it is a donation, I apply it in seconds

Can I get a refund, if I ask nicely?

 

[AIAW]

Some people's children...

 

[HiDesertELR]

Disappointing to say the least. Those people will ALWAYS be part of the problem, and NEVER part of the solution.

Sad that this is not the only place this sort of thing "trending".

There's the door, don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out. Or do, we don't care. GTFO.

 

[Lowlight]

Can I get a refund, if I ask nicely?

Sure,

Go hit the Upgrade, scroll to the Site Support Donation and pay the $20, after you are finished, come back here and ask for a refund, and I will knock it out of the park.

But there is not refund before the fact

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Frank, my suggestion would be to 'refund' only 50% of their donation. Call the other 50% a "re-stocking fee".

 

[Veer_G]

Process refunds every 90 days. Bank the interest. Voilà.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Sure,

Go hit the Upgrade, scroll to the Site Support Donation and pay the $20, after you are finished, come back here and ask for a refund, and I will knock it out of the park.

But there is not refund before the fact

What I have to pay up front before the refund? That's just plain UN-American theses days!

 

[Mechdesigner]

What kind of A-holes asks for donation back! that should be an auto ban hammer! You should add in a smaller donation size...I slide in a 5$ donation under the wifes radar much easier. A $20 purchase always comes with an explaination lol

 

[Lowlight]

Percentages are harder to deal with,

Pay Pal just has a single click refund which is the easiest route

I had a guy demand a refund this week because of the Online Training, he signed up, said he didn't use it, and cancelled it, but was still being charged. I refund him and find he never canceled it and it was still active which is why he was charged.

I refund then boot for being stupid and wasting my time

 

[Seed tick]

Don’t refund shit! Ban anyone who ask. It says donation. My .02. Fuck em nothing lost.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Not really. What you are seeing is what is happening all over this country,... it's called gaming the system. This country is full of those types, so why would here be any different? The only thing they mostly understand is a fat lip, or worst. It's in every part/place of this country now.

I agree, but it is still stupid.

 

[Doc68]

So a new trend has started on SH,

Guys are purchasing the "$20 Donation" and then once they figure out it is not a shortcut to the PX, they are asking for refunds

I know everyone is trying to game the system and figure out how to use the PX without paying all the upgrade amount, but give me a break.

The PX is seriously getting out of hand, and guys are force me to make it a paid service, and by that I mean 100% paid

The
@cost was raised to reduce some traffic, so now everyone is trying to find a way around it.

If someone sees a social post instructing people how to game the PX on another platform, post it, so I can ban the explainers

@lowlight, fuck them all. Free isn't a thing. If they want to peddle their goods, let them use another site to.

 

[Do-nothing]

No refunds before making a donation?? What kinda crap is that????? "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!" ?

 

[2ndamendfan]

Wow. If they need the $20 so bad maybe they can go be poor on gunbroker.

I agree, it is worth $20 to me to NOT have to admit I was a dumbass.

 

[cattleman99]

On a side note, is there a way to donate the $20 again? I donated once but would like to again

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

I agree, but it is still stupid.

Not really, look at where the liberals are at now.
I fully understand where Franks coming for an am really shocked, he has let it go on this long.

 

[AIAW]

On a side note, is there a way to donate the $20 again? I donated once but would like to again

Just "manually" PayPal him again. That's what I did. Check your PayPal history and you can get it PayPal associated e-mail address.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

I honestly figured that if they can't comprehend the concept of 'donation' then they'd be just as clueless with the definition of 're-stocking', and it IS in your best interest.

Actually, it would be in ALL of our interest.

 

[rtB]

I might suggest a flat upfront cost to post in the PX. No percentages, too hard to track final sell price unless you are processing the CC.

Jus a flat xx.xx for the original listing.

 

[Waorani]

Unbelievable!

 

[Lowlight]

Does it only allow you to do it once ?

I may have a bad setting or something I will have to look at the details

 

[Long Range 338]

I say no refunds on a donation. Its a donation, if you don't speak English why are you here?

 

[Blutroop]

I think you should attach a “tax” to the report button. Use that to pay for your bottles of aspirin. Maybe post all the report comments up and charge admission into that area.. I’d pay to read that once I’m caught up on bills. (Just got back to work)

 

[Lowlight]

I might suggest a flat upfront cost to post in the PX. No percentages, too hard to track final sell price unless you are processing the CC.

Jus a flat xx.xx for the original listing.

That is the only way it works

 

[AIAW]

Does it only allow you to do it once ?

I may have a bad setting or something I will have to look at the details

Yeah, once you do it once that option is no longer presented.

 

[KevinD]

I bet its those damned jersey shooters trying to post up their prize table stuff. Losers.

 

[Lowlight]

I bet its those damned jersey shooters trying to post up their prize table stuff. Losers.

Serious dude, you are the last person to be in here stirring the pot

I am in a crappy mood this AM and more than once you name has been under my mouse to be removed

We don't see eye to eye, I am not one of the ARS Clan with you, we don't hang out together so just leave it alone

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

That is the only way it works

I'd also look at the edits they make as well, that in it's self will be a bitch.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

@lowlight

I have never used the PX to either buy or sell. Whatever needs doing, needs doing...it's your house.

I do have a question though, is it possible to exclude the PX posts from the "New Posts" when that button is selected?

It would make it easier to peruse the new conversations without 5 pages of buying and selling. Another site did this recently and it makes it much more convenient. Don't know if that would even be worth your time, but thought I'd ask.

 

[charnicus]

Does it only allow you to do it once ?

I may have a bad setting or something I will have to look at the details

Yeah only once and then it darkens out and you can no longer select it.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Does it only allow you to do it once ?
I may have a bad setting or something I will have to look at the details

Yes, when you pay it, the button to do it again is no longer there:

Maybe change that part where it says $20.00 for 3 days to $20 non-refundable contribution?

But if it can be edited so that you get the option to do it again, that would be great.

Maybe even an extra banner on your profile picture so people see it, wonder what it is, and go looking to get it too?

 

[Lowlight]

I fixed it

I put a 3 day limit on it and that should fix it, the original upgrade said, permanent

 

[Lowlight]

I wonder if the older guys who bought will not reset now because the setting was wrong ?

 

[kriller134]

Don't refund them shit. It's their fault they can't read. I blame all of this gaming on the PRS.

 

[AIAW]

I wonder if the older guys who bought will not reset now because the setting was wrong ?

I guess I can let you know in 3 days, LOL.

I'll make a note/reminder.

 

[lash]

Does it only allow you to do it once ?

I may have a bad setting or something I will have to look at the details

Reading this thread made me finally donate to the site that I waste some much time on and learn and share so much.

So, I went right back and the donate option is definitely not there anymore. There is a record that I donated that also says it will expire on 01/17/2020. So maybe it will allow me to donate again after Friday, if I want.