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Night Vision The Official: Steiner C35 Thermal Clip-on Review and User Thread!
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I will be taking some pics and comparing it to my Yoter C and a Burris BTC50 tonight. Comparing these to a UTC is retarded. I will start a new forum as I am biased.
$3999 is as good as it gets. It has some warts, but they’re all in the cosmetic/weight department. Image and performance-per-dollar is a solid win.
It's pouring rain here, I might say fuck it and still take them out for pictures.
What better way to see how they perform!
I played with the Y-C in pouring rain the night in comparison to the night before which was clear and stars. 55-60 F both nights.
I don’t have much to compare to, but myself and two friends were very impressed looking at cattle 875y, 200y, 100y and some farm pets 325y away. Other than that the cars, a couple concrete well heads, houses etc. Seem to do well even in the rain. Totally subjective but a lot of fun had by all.
I have a Steiner spotter I picked up as an interim solution….
The apps is awful at getting good quality pictures from any Steiner thermal.
Yep you're 100% correct, my Steiner thermal is pretty great at the 1-4x range, excellent quality. Just waiting on my RC2 before I swap out my daytime optic.
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After spending multiple days attempting to take photos, I realized I have the stable hand of Michael J. Fox. Steiner will be showing off the C35 at the big show this weekend in Houston so we should see a lot more videos and reviews.
Steiner confirmed with me the sensor is in fact Chinese, made in Germany.
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I suppose you could. It’s demagnified a little, so not ideal, but you could definitely use it to scan.
You have to put it right up to your eye, but my dad does it. Less shit to carry and you just throw it on your gun once you find something to shoot.
Did I miss anybody posting pics or videos through the clipon unit? Only saw that single one of the gas station from DRT.
I can't take a good photo with my phone to save my life, but with the manual focus it's better than the yoter.
The marketing materials say that it records onboard “at the push of a button” - can you record some onboard then USB transfer it over or something?
The onboard recording is just through the objective so you won't see the image you see when you are behind a scope.
I kinda figured as much. Better than what we have to work with for now… which is quite limited.
You have to upload to YouTube or similar platform and then share that link for video is my understanding.
Yall making me start a Youtube channel and shit. It looks like ass thanks to my shakey hand and video compression, but the furthest mailbox at the end of the street is over 330 yards.
I got mine in yesterday, and it's my first thermal and only the second one I looked through, but very impressive! I threw it in front of a 4x32 ACOG, and could easily pick up and watch neighbor driving car 700m away, neighbor walking with dogs 400m away, and racoons and skunks at 200m.
I'm thinking the fixed 4x might not be the best scope behind this unit. I'm not sure what to expect, but I thought in my simple mind with the C35 saying FOV at 100m was 12.5x9.5m and the ACOG being 12.5m @ 100m, I thought I would be viewing more of the C35 screen. If I turn on the PIP, I can catch just the edge of that display. I have the C35 mounted as close as possible to the ACOG, but as I move it further away I start to get more and more view of the C35 screen, but I have never seen a clip on mounted anywhere other than directly in front of the day scope. So I guess what is coming into play here is AFOV.
I guess my question is, what should I look for in a scope that might take better advantage of utilizing more of the screen, or is that just as good as it's going to get at 4x since the ACOG has massive FOV. Do I just need a scope with a low end of 2x or something?
I'm thinking the fixed 4x might not be the best scope behind this unit. I'm not sure what to expect, but I thought in my simple mind with the C35 saying FOV at 100m was 12.5x9.5m and the ACOG being 12.5m @ 100m, I thought I would be viewing more of the C35 screen. If I turn on the PIP, I can catch just the edge of that display. I have the C35 mounted as close as possible to the ACOG, but as I move it further away I start to get more and more view of the C35 screen, but I have never seen a clip on mounted anywhere other than directly in front of the day scope. So I guess what is coming into play here is AFOV.
I guess my question is, what should I look for in a scope that might take better advantage of utilizing more of the screen, or is that just as good as it's going to get at 4x since the ACOG has massive FOV. Do I just need a scope with a low end of 2x or something?
Yeah with a fixed-power optic it’s really hard to predict exactly how much the clip-on screen will fill (or over/under-fill) your day optic. That’s why you see most people running clip-ons in front of LPVOs. You can zoom out to see more or zoom in for a focused shot. Of course there’s nothing wrong with using a fixed power optic and a clip on, you just lose the advantage of variability and the ability to adjust your FOV.
Loaner just arrived this evening and I slapped it in front of the Vortex 1-10 on a stripped out upper to take a peek at the image. Looking good so far, but will need to get it out to some distance with critters. Quite a hefty unit compared to the RH25, but a much simpler menu and likely some extra zoom ability. Still seeing pretty heavy pixelation above 6x. Will try to check for POI shift ASAP too.
And what that blaster looks like all put together -
Ok. So its pee proof.
Now give it the scientific sensitivity test like below.
And Publish Your Findings.
Pee resistant. Horta only holds so much, and the 500 gallons required to pass the IPeeX68 test was probably missing.
When looking at LPVOs, is there any other specs besides FOV which may make it perform best with a clip on? I guess how to tell which LPVOs would view the full screen top to bottom at 2x while another does it at 2.5x (just random numbers for example)
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Laying off the triple expresso's might help with a steady hand
or a tripod. It does provide a nice, bright image. How many profiles can it save/store?
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