BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.........
'Real masculinity' should look to queer community, Gen Z.
You can't make this shit up
'Real masculinity' should look to queer community, Gen Z.
You can't make this shit up
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This guy is going to tell us how to be masculine
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Just look at the likes to dislike ratio at the bottom of the article. It also automatically appears right above your bottom navigation bar if you are on Android mobile...
185 likes. 3K dislikes. And that is on MSN...
Talk about a PROPER ratio...
185 likes. 3K dislikes. And that is on MSN...
Talk about a PROPER ratio...
Watch it! He looks like a real mean cocksucker!
The funny thing is when they talked about the straight white male privilege and how the capitalist society helps the patriarchy. The white males at the top are few and far between. Most white males in America work blue collar jobs and aren't making millions or trillions of $$$ a year.
These men work their asses off only to be told that they are not good enough. That's why there are drug overdoses and alcoholism.
"Caucasians have a higher rate of current alcohol use (at the time of the 2013 NSDUH) than any other race demographic"
alcohol.org
Even so, they get up every morning and go off to work.
Fuck that guy who has no real idea what it means to be a man and the shit men have to deal with on a daily bases.
These men work their asses off only to be told that they are not good enough. That's why there are drug overdoses and alcoholism.
"Caucasians have a higher rate of current alcohol use (at the time of the 2013 NSDUH) than any other race demographic"
How Different Cultures Deal with Alcoholism | Alcohol.org
Learn why culture, religion, race, social circles, socioeconomic status, and home environment can be a factor in how a person treats alcohol abuse.
Even so, they get up every morning and go off to work.
Fuck that guy who has no real idea what it means to be a man and the shit men have to deal with on a daily bases.
The funny thing is when they talked about the straight white male privilege and how the capitalist society helps the patriarchy. The white males at the top are few and far between. Most white males in America work blue collar jobs and aren't making millions or trillions of $$$ a year.
These men work their asses off only to be told that they are not good enough. That's why there are drug overdoses and alcoholism.
"Caucasians have a higher rate of current alcohol use (at the time of the 2013 NSDUH) than any other race demographic"
How Different Cultures Deal with Alcoholism | Alcohol.org
Learn why culture, religion, race, social circles, socioeconomic status, and home environment can be a factor in how a person treats alcohol abuse.
Even so, they get up every morning and go off to work.
Fuck that guy who has no real idea what it means to be a man and the shit men have to deal with on a daily bases.
Throughout the entirety of history and into the future as well, men have always been, and will be judged and regarded by the contributions they make in the gritty and rugged aspects of society and how useful we are. It is men who respond to calls that the AC/heating is not working, or that a main drain pipe is clogged and backing up and filling a basement with brown water, and men who makes sure that 100 supermarkets along the distribution route get their pallets of orders so the liberal influencers can continue to write shit articles on their Macbooks while munching on danishes and pastries made 40 miles away by men who got up at 3AM to go to the production kitchen and fire up the ovens and get stuff ready to bake. For almost all men who help the cogs of society continue to turn, this is how we think and there is no "conditioning" away from it:
The funny thing is when they talked about the straight white male privilege and how the capitalist society helps the patriarchy. The white males at the top are few and far between. Most white males in America work blue collar jobs and aren't making millions or trillions of $$$ a year.
These men work their asses off only to be told that they are not good enough. That's why there are drug overdoses and alcoholism.
"Caucasians have a higher rate of current alcohol use (at the time of the 2013 NSDUH) than any other race demographic"
How Different Cultures Deal with Alcoholism | Alcohol.org
Learn why culture, religion, race, social circles, socioeconomic status, and home environment can be a factor in how a person treats alcohol abuse.
Even so, they get up every morning and go off to work.
Fuck that guy who has no real idea what it means to be a man and the shit men have to deal with on a daily bases.
Overtime hours
For bullshit pay.........
The author claims that Putin, among others, is in a “wrestling match with his own ego”.
I’d pay my supply of FED215Ms, Retumbo, & N570 to watch the author say that shit to Putin’s face.
I’d pay my supply of FED215Ms, Retumbo, & N570 to watch the author say that shit to Putin’s face.
Everyone should take note that alot of these froots want to teach. They want to indoctrinate our kids.
What no men give a shit about:
- What the gays think.
- What New Yorkers think.
- What college professors think.
- What liberal arts majors think.
- What journalists think.
That guy is a gas lighting. Wants to dis on regular guys and then accuse regular guys of being upset or in crisis because we don't buy his fluid feces.
As my mother, (the christian) would say, screw him. And the mule he rode in on.
As my mother, (the christian) would say, screw him. And the mule he rode in on.
You were actually able to read the article from the link to the end? Ramblings of a mad man and then have an opinion that buttfucking is not a disease. You fuck your own sex you're damaged beyond repair and thats simply the fact of life like gravity is...
To an evolutionary extent, homoseuxality is a self-correcting problem.
To quote Owen Benjamin speaking on the subject of homosexuality -
"My sex with my wife creates life. Your sex creates shit."
To quote Owen Benjamin speaking on the subject of homosexuality -
"My sex with my wife creates life. Your sex creates shit."
I have a simple criteria.
If you take dick in the ass, or put your dick in other men's ass's, youre not a man. Biologically male perhaps, but not a man. Sucking dick is the same.
Men have sex with women.
If you take dick in the ass, or put your dick in other men's ass's, youre not a man. Biologically male perhaps, but not a man. Sucking dick is the same.
Men have sex with women.
I actually read the article because the author confused me…lots of rhetorical cul-de-sacs to navigate. 
What the heck was he actually suggesting?
Turns out the thesis of his “hole” argument (lol sorry cheap shot) is this quote:
Cloud-like ☁
Floats like butterfly
Wait…he’s just flirting w/“bisexuals”
lol!
What the heck was he actually suggesting?Turns out the thesis of his “hole” argument (lol sorry cheap shot) is this quote:
“What straight men could learn from queer men – aside from a host of stylistic, hygienic and sex tips – is to have a greater zeal and lust for life.”
Vapid Cloud-like ☁
Floats like butterfly
Wait…he’s just flirting w/“bisexuals”
lol!There is a "kernel" of truth in the article. What has really destroyed masculinity (and their was a good article, I just can't remember where) is the destruction of "community" specifically the Masculine Male Community. Men no longer associate and are isolated. Our activities are looked down upon and discouraged by society.
Go to the bar? You're a Drunk (It England, I hear its what people do)
Mechanic/Cars? Too macho
Guns? AYFKM?
Boxing? Gay
UFC? Too violent
Football? Flag for looking angrily at the quarterback.
Go to the bar? You're a Drunk (It England, I hear its what people do)
Mechanic/Cars? Too macho
Guns? AYFKM?
Boxing? Gay
UFC? Too violent
Football? Flag for looking angrily at the quarterback.
High society might feel that way. Urban society might as well.
American society doesn’t care.
The author lives in a Greenwich Village NYC university vacuum. That’s not America. Not even close.
Conversations I commonly have at work:
- Kids’ performance at the latest football game or wrestling match or rodeo.
- Hunting, shooting, fishing, LR rifles, suppressors, NV, thermal, etc
- Ongoing DIY remodeling with concrete pours and home expansions on top of just flooring or painting.
- Vehicle maintenance and improvements including engine swaps, transmission rebuilding, axle regearing, etc.
- Cattle and other livestock raising
- Gardens measured in acres.
- Pro sports, sure, but they know I give zero fucks about it.
@DocRDS I feel the isolation too, but not how you put it.
Realize that yes, I have graduated from a four-year college (gasp!). For dudes who use their hands for a living (props to you, btw), I’m not sure what your experiences are. See below for my take.
Straight men become friends through a “shared adventure”. Not by talking.
Pretty obvious.
The problem is that outside of high school/college/early 20’s it becomes quite difficult to have these adventures with new fellows. Women, who become friendly via talking, do not have this limit.
My wife can go on a girl’s weekend four or five times a year, in which five chicks just sit in a damn cabin, talk, eat gourmet food (one is a chef), and drink red wine.
I say WTF???
I’m experiencing this isolation as I age. Some of my old friends are gone (moved) but many are so fixated by family life that the very thought a week-long hunting or ski trip with just us guys is alien to them. Like I asked them to dye their hair orange or something.
They are hyper-scheduled out to 2040 and slaves to their wife, aka “the boss”.
That last bit is important. I feel that a bit too. Unfortunate, it is.
Does anyone else feel this way? Is this just a Minnesotan thing? Or a white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar guy married to a Minnesotan white-collar woman thing?
I hear echos of groups of guys who retreat to deer camp or the ice fishing shacks for a week-plus, and not just once a year. I just don’t run in those circles, unfortunately, and in Minnesota at least, making a new friend is a decade-long endeavor (at least).
Realize that yes, I have graduated from a four-year college (gasp!). For dudes who use their hands for a living (props to you, btw), I’m not sure what your experiences are. See below for my take.
Straight men become friends through a “shared adventure”. Not by talking.
Pretty obvious.
The problem is that outside of high school/college/early 20’s it becomes quite difficult to have these adventures with new fellows. Women, who become friendly via talking, do not have this limit.
My wife can go on a girl’s weekend four or five times a year, in which five chicks just sit in a damn cabin, talk, eat gourmet food (one is a chef), and drink red wine.
I say WTF???
I’m experiencing this isolation as I age. Some of my old friends are gone (moved) but many are so fixated by family life that the very thought a week-long hunting or ski trip with just us guys is alien to them. Like I asked them to dye their hair orange or something.
They are hyper-scheduled out to 2040 and slaves to their wife, aka “the boss”.
That last bit is important. I feel that a bit too. Unfortunate, it is.
Does anyone else feel this way? Is this just a Minnesotan thing? Or a white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar guy married to a Minnesotan white-collar woman thing?
I hear echos of groups of guys who retreat to deer camp or the ice fishing shacks for a week-plus, and not just once a year. I just don’t run in those circles, unfortunately, and in Minnesota at least, making a new friend is a decade-long endeavor (at least).
Lol yeah, and ice fishing is mainly that too.
But there is still an adventure component. An activity. An actual damn fishing rod, an actual hunt. Weather is involved
Whereas chicks…don’t even have to leave the friggin’ room all weekend. Boggles the mind.
One problem:
80% of the US is Urban (population) so what you have may be "normal" but its definitely not "average"
I'd venture to say your experience doesn't represent what happens on average.
but like what @carbonbased mentioned--hunting is in decline, fishing is down, those shared "Adventures" of what makes men, well men.
I'll toss in our "conflict resolution" during youth and this no violence bs. Every other animal in the universe has their children play fighting.
We suppress it. It leads to 2 changes
(1) We never really learn how to fight
(2) We never learn to control our aggression.
We're taught: aggression is 'bad'. Violence is 'bad' Biologically that goes counter to any male's evolution.
Yeah, not gonna have to hit her, just shout the wrong pronouns at her and she'll die of anxiety.
Branden
I fixed all that by getting involved in USPSA.@DocRDS I feel the isolation too, but not how you put it.
I’m experiencing this isolation as I age. Some of my old friends are gone (moved) but many are so fixated by family life that the very thought a week-long hunting or ski trip with just us guys is alien to them. Like I asked them to dye their hair orange or something.
They are hyper-scheduled out to 2040 and slaves to their wife, aka “the boss”.
That last bit is important. I feel that a bit too. Unfortunate, it is.
Does anyone else feel this way? Is this just a Minnesotan thing? Or a white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar guy married to a Minnesotan white-collar woman thing?
I hear echos of groups of guys who retreat to deer camp or the ice fishing shacks for a week-plus, and not just once a year. I just don’t run in those circles, unfortunately, and in Minnesota at least, making a new friend is a decade-long endeavor (at least)
My wife and I have given each other room to do our thing since we met 38 years ago.
That's probably why I never made friends with any of the other dads in my daughter's high school which is 15 miles south of where I live and definitely urban.
They were either pansies or weirdos.
I just got done taking my makeup off.
Hand threaded 110 feet of black iron pipe for a system this morning. Just went to lunch and I looked in the mirror and I had thread dope, oil and whatever that black shit on the pipe is all over my face and hands. I can smell the thread cutting oil on my shirt and shorts. I know when I get home that the woman will ask, Running gas pipe again? It's a helluva cologne.
I bet if most of us slapped a bitch boy like that. The callouses would remove the skin from its face
Hand threaded 110 feet of black iron pipe for a system this morning. Just went to lunch and I looked in the mirror and I had thread dope, oil and whatever that black shit on the pipe is all over my face and hands. I can smell the thread cutting oil on my shirt and shorts. I know when I get home that the woman will ask, Running gas pipe again? It's a helluva cologne.
I bet if most of us slapped a bitch boy like that. The callouses would remove the skin from its face
These men work their asses off only to be told that they are not good enough. That's why there are drug overdoses and alcoholism.
"Caucasians have a higher rate of current alcohol use (at the time of the 2013 NSDUH) than any other race demographic"
Even so, they get up every morning and go off to workHow Different Cultures Deal with Alcoholism | Alcohol.org
Learn why culture, religion, race, social circles, socioeconomic status, and home environment can be a factor in how a person treats alcohol abuse.
RESEARCH ARTICLE
OPEN ACCESS
Rising morbidity and mortality in midlife among white non-Hispanic Americans in the 21st century
Anne Case [email protected] and Angus Deaton [email protected]Authors Info & AffiliationsContributed by Angus Deaton, September 17, 2015
Significance
Midlife increases in suicides and drug poisonings have been previously noted. However, that these upward trends were persistent and large enough to drive up all-cause midlife mortality has, to our knowledge, been overlooked. If the white mortality rate for ages 45−54 had held at their 1998 value, 96,000 deaths would have been avoided from 1999–2013, 7,000 in 2013 alone. If it had continued to decline at its previous (1979‒1998) rate, half a million deaths would have been avoided in the period 1999‒2013, comparable to lives lost in the US AIDS epidemic through mid-2015. Concurrent declines in self-reported health, mental health, and ability to work, increased reports of pain, and deteriorating measures of liver function all point to increasing midlife distress.Abstract
This paper documents a marked increase in the all-cause mortality of middle-aged white non-Hispanic men and women in the United States between 1999 and 2013. This change reversed decades of progress in mortality and was unique to the United States; no other rich country saw a similar turnaround. The midlife mortality reversal was confined to white non-Hispanics; black non-Hispanics and Hispanics at midlife, and those aged 65 and above in every racial and ethnic group, continued to see mortality rates fall. This increase for whites was largely accounted for by increasing death rates from drug and alcohol poisonings, suicide, and chronic liver diseases and cirrhosis. Although all education groups saw increases in mortality from suicide and poisonings, and an overall increase in external cause mortality, those with less education saw the most marked increases. Rising midlife mortality rates of white non-Hispanics were paralleled by increases in midlife morbidity. Self-reported declines in health, mental health, and ability to conduct activities of daily living, and increases in chronic pain and inability to work, as well as clinically measured deteriorations in liver function, all point to growing distress in this population. We comment on potential economic causes and consequences of this deterioration.Worth a read
I was able to get a lot of the male bonding while serving in the Army. To be honest now I crave the isolation. I don't have shared experiences with those around me, the is no brotherhood. The older I get the more I want to get away from people.@DocRDS I feel the isolation too, but not how you put it.
Realize that yes, I have graduated from a four-year college (gasp!). For dudes who use their hands for a living (props to you, btw), I’m not sure what your experiences are. See below for my take.
Straight men become friends through a “shared adventure”. Not by talking.
Pretty obvious.
The problem is that outside of high school/college/early 20’s it becomes quite difficult to have these adventures with new fellows. Women, who become friendly via talking, do not have this limit.
My wife can go on a girl’s weekend four or five times a year, in which five chicks just sit in a damn cabin, talk, eat gourmet food (one is a chef), and drink red wine.
I say WTF???
I’m experiencing this isolation as I age. Some of my old friends are gone (moved) but many are so fixated by family life that the very thought a week-long hunting or ski trip with just us guys is alien to them. Like I asked them to dye their hair orange or something.
They are hyper-scheduled out to 2040 and slaves to their wife, aka “the boss”.
That last bit is important. I feel that a bit too. Unfortunate, it is.
Does anyone else feel this way? Is this just a Minnesotan thing? Or a white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar thing? Or a Minnesotan white-collar guy married to a Minnesotan white-collar woman thing?
I hear echos of groups of guys who retreat to deer camp or the ice fishing shacks for a week-plus, and not just once a year. I just don’t run in those circles, unfortunately, and in Minnesota at least, making a new friend is a decade-long endeavor (at least).
Yeah, understand. Myself, I am bored and want to occasionally do something with other guys. Like 2-4 times a year.
Around my friends/relations (including my brother), that’s like asking for the moon or something. Brother’s wife locks him down quite a bit, but he also would rather slavishly go to his son’s YEAR-ROUND soccer games, which happen out of state too.
I don’t get it. I used to do stuff with these guys and we had fun. We talk on the phone every 2-4 weeks at length. But their schedules are chock full of family stuff, which is very Minnesotan.
See the pdf of a recent story in the Star Tribune titled, “Why is it that Minnesotans will 'give you directions to anywhere but their home'?”
Here’s a link too. Not sure if it’s behind a paywall. Comments are golden. This crap happens between Minnesotans too, not just newcomers/Minnesotans.
Star Tribune
Your source for Minnesota news today. Read articles, view photos or watch videos about news in Minneapolis, St. Paul, Duluth, St. Cloud, Rochester, and beyond.
m.startribune.com
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None of that has any bearing on my life.
If someone hates themselves that much, I say have at it. Clean up the gene pool. I still won't know about it unless I read it here.
Guess what?
I still won't care.
I have American Legion meetings, Tuesday night horseshoes, Thursday trap team, public works meetings, and Friday Bible study. Every week or monthly this is all scheduled. I hunt and fish with my family and friends whenever I am able. I probably have six friends I see regularly, and a couple dozen I see infrequently.
I live in a community, and I'm an active part of that commuinity in as much as I donate some of my valuable time to keeping the lights on, making sure the storm water goes where it should, and keeping the streets free of pot holes. That's what an actual "community" is, and you can't avoid living in one unless you're a hermit. What these leftist morons call "community" is nothing of the sort. What they mean is identity group that tells them who they are and what they should think. They pack up because they are the weakest humans among us, and they seek a strict social order because they have no personality. These are incredibly weak people who can't function without being in a clique/gang. No Virginia, I am not part of an identity group ("community") where my name isn't on a roster for some kind of activity or service (and that's the extent of it). No group of people informs me of who I am, because there's no one else like me. I'm a unique in all the world individual, and I know who I am. The kind of person who needs to be part of an identity group to have meaning and value isn't worth knowing. Any crisis of masculinity is because of how many worthless, empty males seek an identity group to give their wastrel lives meaning.
The article is a joke, and the author a mental and emotional midget. Anyone who worries about "masculinity" doesn't have any. The shit you and I take for granted is completely alien to a worthless sack like this. Give me back the two minutes you stole @308pirate!
I live in a community, and I'm an active part of that commuinity in as much as I donate some of my valuable time to keeping the lights on, making sure the storm water goes where it should, and keeping the streets free of pot holes. That's what an actual "community" is, and you can't avoid living in one unless you're a hermit. What these leftist morons call "community" is nothing of the sort. What they mean is identity group that tells them who they are and what they should think. They pack up because they are the weakest humans among us, and they seek a strict social order because they have no personality. These are incredibly weak people who can't function without being in a clique/gang. No Virginia, I am not part of an identity group ("community") where my name isn't on a roster for some kind of activity or service (and that's the extent of it). No group of people informs me of who I am, because there's no one else like me. I'm a unique in all the world individual, and I know who I am. The kind of person who needs to be part of an identity group to have meaning and value isn't worth knowing. Any crisis of masculinity is because of how many worthless, empty males seek an identity group to give their wastrel lives meaning.
The article is a joke, and the author a mental and emotional midget. Anyone who worries about "masculinity" doesn't have any. The shit you and I take for granted is completely alien to a worthless sack like this. Give me back the two minutes you stole @308pirate!
It's the second week of deer camp,
And all the guys are here!
We drink, play cards, and shoot the bull,
But never shoots no deer!
Who knows this song?
And all the guys are here!
We drink, play cards, and shoot the bull,
But never shoots no deer!
Who knows this song?
That's just a cultural reflection of the state's nordic origins. Do some digging on expat experiences moving to any of the Scandinavian countries and you'll see the same exact thing.Yeah, understand. Myself, I am bored and want to occasionally do something with other guys. Like 2-4 times a year.
Around my friends/relations (including my brother), that’s like asking for the moon or something. Brother’s wife locks him down quite a bit, but he also would rather slavishly go to his son’s YEAR-ROUND soccer games, which happen out of state too.
I don’t get it. I used to do stuff with these guys and we had fun. We talk on the phone every 2-4 weeks at length. But their schedules are chock full of family stuff, which is very Minnesotan.
See the pdf of a recent story in the Star Tribune titled, “Why is it that Minnesotans will 'give you directions to anywhere but their home'?”
Here’s a link too. Not sure if it’s behind a paywall. Comments are golden. This crap happens between Minnesotans too, not just newcomers/Minnesotans.
Star Tribune
Your source for Minnesota news today. Read articles, view photos or watch videos about news in Minneapolis, St. Paul, Duluth, St. Cloud, Rochester, and beyond.
It is indicative of a spoiled generation that reduces masculinity to whether or not we like gay men wearing make-up or not.
The men I grew up around worked. And did so without complaining. They were all quite masculine, which is an inner thing. The hard jobs they had are not what made them masculine. And I am not talking about fear. You can have fear and still be a man. What makes you a man is how you respond to fear and overcome the situation.
And, as far as I can see, popular culture aside, woman find more attractive a masculine man. The kind of guy who does not "share his feelings." Women don't really want to hear about your feelings. They want you to listen to them about their feelings. Which you can do. Otherwise, we keep quiet about that.
Women need a man who is strong in his character and work ethic. In order for the species to continue, someone has to give birth and someone has to provide for the comfort, feeding, and care of mother and child. Not chauvinistic or sexist. Just the actual requirements of biology.
The men I grew up around worked. And did so without complaining. They were all quite masculine, which is an inner thing. The hard jobs they had are not what made them masculine. And I am not talking about fear. You can have fear and still be a man. What makes you a man is how you respond to fear and overcome the situation.
And, as far as I can see, popular culture aside, woman find more attractive a masculine man. The kind of guy who does not "share his feelings." Women don't really want to hear about your feelings. They want you to listen to them about their feelings. Which you can do. Otherwise, we keep quiet about that.
Women need a man who is strong in his character and work ethic. In order for the species to continue, someone has to give birth and someone has to provide for the comfort, feeding, and care of mother and child. Not chauvinistic or sexist. Just the actual requirements of biology.
Even more that I don't care what they have to say. Magazines about cars, guns, whatever is nothing more than a glossy paged, industry funded advertisement that you pay to be fed their puff-piece bullshit lies. It has been years that I've bought or had a subscription to any magazine that didn't have at least a 15 round capacity.
They worked their asses off so their factories could be sent overseas and their coal mines and energy sector jobs could be shut down in the name of a hoax. Then that same system that did that to them recruits their children to be fodder for wars they never had a hand in starting. Then the pharmaceutical industry dumps pain killers on them that they know are addictive. To top it all off the ones that saved their whole lives to send their kids to the university system either don’t get to go because they are white or when they get there they have their heads pumped full of bullshit that, most of the time, has no real world use or makes them a degenerate. And finally when they have had enough and vote for someone who hears their voice and understands their woes, that very system spends the next four years trying to undo their vote.The funny thing is when they talked about the straight white male privilege and how the capitalist society helps the patriarchy. The white males at the top are few and far between. Most white males in America work blue collar jobs and aren't making millions or trillions of $$$ a year.
These men work their asses off only to be told that they are not good enough. That's why there are drug overdoses and alcoholism.
"Caucasians have a higher rate of current alcohol use (at the time of the 2013 NSDUH) than any other race demographic"
How Different Cultures Deal with Alcoholism | Alcohol.org
Learn why culture, religion, race, social circles, socioeconomic status, and home environment can be a factor in how a person treats alcohol abuse.
Even so, they get up every morning and go off to work.
Fuck that guy who has no real idea what it means to be a man and the shit men have to deal with on a daily bases.
Yea, fuck that guy and each and everyone else that thinks “white privilege” is a thing.
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