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Thunder Valley Precision (TVP) Steel Shoot 1-3-10

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All I want to know is if I have to wear pants? hahaha.. Maybe I will just wear a banana hammock for the shoots.

J/K hahaha
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Tom I think that your prices are more than fair. Not saying cheaper is not better but does everybody know how much it takes to keep that place going? I love that range and the people and thats probably going to get me to drive 15 hours for the shoot.(And some people call me crazy) There maybe some areas that some of your guests would like to be touched up but overall I would like to know where there are other ranges that offer that type of shooting for that kind of money. I know that the economy is bad and alot of people cant afford it and I feel their pain but if things get any worse that type of shooting knowledge maybe priceless. (Like I said some do call me crazy)
 
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I totally agree Robert, Ill pay whatever it takes to be able to shoot at TVP. Im one of those guys with the budget gun, going through school without much money, but I have no problem paying those prices, they are MORE than fair.

But thats also why when Id come down for an overnighter and Tom was nice enough to let me shack up in his house, I did whatever I could early morning to help setup for the matches, and whatever I can during the day to help out.

I hate that I am 3 hours away, but I feel lucky that I have this place within driving distance also.

Glen, 3 shots, has it changed, or has it really been that long since Ive been down that I dont remember?
 
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jon you dont know how lucky you are to have a range like that within driving distance. I am extremly lucky to have one right by by house but it only goes to 750yds. and is not set up anything like up there. I tell you yall northern guys got it made in the shooting world. Down here in the flatgrounds its hard to see very far especially laying on the ground and we dont usually have the kind of winds yall can regually have. So I dont have the experience on the wind doping that yall have. Maybe one day I'll get it but I'll keep trying intill then.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I totally agree Robert, Ill pay whatever it takes to be able to shoot at TVP. Im one of those guys with the budget gun, going through school without much money, but I have no problem paying those prices, they are MORE than fair.

But thats also why when Id come down for an overnighter and Tom was nice enough to let me shack up in his house, I did whatever I could early morning to help setup for the matches, and whatever I can during the day to help out.

I hate that I am 3 hours away, but I feel lucky that I have this place within driving distance also.

Glen, 3 shots, has it changed, or has it really been that long since Ive been down that I dont remember? </div></div>

Jon,

When do you plan on heading down, I might be going and we can carpool from T-Town.

Scott
 
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Hey Scott!

I hope you can make it...you and your wife would make a great team! That would be cool and a great picture to add to our collection.
Have a great Holiday!

Tom
TVP
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tom Sarver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Scott!

I hope you can make it...you and your wife would make a great team! That would be cool and a great picture to add to our collection.
Have a great Holiday!

Tom
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Tom,

Wife is doubtful, she is not a big fan of the cold, but I'm leaning towards the trip.

Scott
 
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Robert,

I will sell Santa one of mine and he can give it to you for Christmas! I have ONE available. Absolute RIFLE PORN PERFORMANCE! A-5 stock- 1.350" -1.115" 30" Lawton fluted barrel- Surgeon single shot XL- FTE brake-Jewel HVR set at 1 lb. chambered in 1000 yard world record cartridge = 100% bad ass!

Tom
 
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I was just reading through these posts...

Since when was time an issue per position?We get through the course when we get through it.We all get a turn in the alloted time given.That time should give teams to make plans,B.S.,or whatever.Its your time use it how you seem fit.

I have to admit,the first match of the year was different than the rest of the year.When I came to my second match this year all I could think WTF just happened here?This is a much different format since I left.I like it now.When your turn is up you better be ready.Simple.Points will be lost.

Next team up.

Come back for another match...This time I'm ready.I know what to expect.Too bad I didn't hold up my end of the team.I was happy to be shooting.At the same time,I had my head up my ass for the match.For my team.


Flounder still has a good idea though.That will save time if it still a concern.


van
 
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Mr. Chase can make it happen! Ho ho ho Merry Christmas! Just imaging how your face would hurt the next day from the many hours you would be grin'en like a puppy with two peters while holding that Hulk!

Tom
 
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Scott, Im planning on heading real early morning Sunday. Ill just be coming home from northern Mich snowmobiling Saturday night. We could definitely carpool down if youre planning on going.

Im trying to talk a buddy into going, he doesnt have a gun to shoot, but just to check the place out to convince him to get a real gun.
 
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Most of all I want shooters to get along, share ideas and opinions and respect each others ways of thinking. We will get through this. There will always be a wait time....period. We can shave/save some time off but it will always be there. It's what we do between shooting that matters too. Think of all the friends you've made here at TVP. Think happy thoughts guys....it's what seperates us from the assholes. We have a good group of guys getting bigger and better. Lets hang in there. I'm trying....believe me if I can do it after 7 years you can too!

Tom
TVP
 
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I apologize if I missed something... two shooters go at once:

do you mean a shooter/spotter team, then they switch roles?
or two shooters with a spotter each, four people on the line?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ohpopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I apologize if I missed something... two shooters go at once:

do you mean a shooter/spotter team, then they switch roles?
or two shooters with a spotter each, four people on the line? </div></div>
2 shooters on the line. Shooter #1 shoots while #2 spots and then #2 shoots while #1 spots alternating shots until all targets are engaged.
 
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Hey can someone post the link that Rodent posted awhile back with the satellite view of the range with the target positions I have a new guy interested and would like to forward to him.
Thanks
John
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom,
Do you want me to swing over to Shelby to check on primers?
Give me a shout at work today, home tonite, or drop me a mail.
Glen</div></div>

I do Glen, 210M's or BR2's, Im willing to make the switch if they arent too expensive.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tom Sarver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jon,

Maybe someone can bring an extra gun for him or if you have some extra .308 ammo he could use my .308

tom</div></div>

Tom, that would be great...now if only I had enough primers to load him up some extra ammo, well hopefully Ill find some by then and try to load up all my brass. Thanks for the offer Tom Ill talk to him about it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RobertB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom, I been asking santa for a .300 hulk but he says he dont know where to find one. HUH??? </div></div>

Are you the same guy I met last year with the super nice 338 with SB scope and the range finders I was using to hit a hill over 5,000 yards away?

I want your toys..
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J Mill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Hey can someone post the link that Rodent posted awhile back with the satellite view of the range with the target positions I have a new guy interested and would like to forward to him.
Thanks
John</div></div>

Hey that was my post!

(Sorry, this came across as being a doucher, I was just messing around)

Its hard to tell if I have them in the exact right positions, but I think its close enough to give new guys an idea of locale.

To see full size images click on the below links.
http://www.geocities.com/jonaddis842003/Rifle/TARGETS_POSITION_1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jonaddis842003/Rifle/TARGETS_POSITION_2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jonaddis842003/Rifle/TARGETS_POSITION_3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jonaddis842003/Rifle/TARGETS_POSITION_4.jpg

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Tom, i am good with the membership cost, be it $50.00 or $100.00...well worth it!
Secondly, what if we put MOA/MOA and Mil/Mil guys together with "spotters" flanking the shooters. I can call adjustments with my scope to a MOA shooter if I am next to him/her on the line. It might speed things up a bit.
 
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I hope to make it out to the January match to watch and I'm sure there will be quite few of us from my area wishing to join in and learn a lot from everyone that has been doing this for a while. I don't think any of the group I shoot with would be classified as "tactical" type shooters but we do love to stretch it out and sometimes with unorthodox type weapons but we can usually hold our own and share the love of that hit when everthing is done right or just got plain lucky. We'll do whatever we can to help at the matches with helping set up, paint targets or spotting although our method of calling out hits or misses border on the redneck version of 2 targets right or 1 plate high or some other term our group understands
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so we'll keep quiet unless asked if we see a miss. There aren't that many places to participate in long range shooting in our area and we all should try to support and help anyway we can.

Merry Christmas everyone.

Topstrap

 
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Topstrap,

I see what you are saying, the reason it's laid out the way it is, from what I understand, is to provide different vantage points from which to shoot from, with varying wind conditions, land features etc.

Summertime matches have a lot more daylight to play with so it makes it easier to get everyone thru the stages, wintertime will pose a bigger time issue.

It was setup this way to get guys off the bench, out shooting prone in the field.

In the past Tom has run a steel plate match from the bench with targets at 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 900, 1000, 1050 and 1100 yards.

I have only attended one of the Tactical Steel matches, It was a night shoot, but we shot the steel course during the day as a train up, it went smoothly, and quicker than I thought it would, I think there were 20 guys during the day and 12 at night if I recall correctly.

Eventually if everyone follows thru with their plans to attend, either multiple safe simultaneous shooting positions will have to come into play or there will have to be a limit on the number of shooters allowed to attend.

Scott
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tom Sarver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok now...here's what we'll do for 2010.....

Membership is $50 per year
Range fee is $20 a day for members and $25 non-members by appointment e-mail or call
Members receive $5 off registered matches

Plates shoots are $30 for everyone.

All other match entry fees will be announced
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Sounds fair.

It sounds like there will be at least one one other course set up, so how about a schedule of some sort since it seems a lot of shooters drive several hours? For example the "intimidator" could be shot on the 2nd and 4th Sundays as a team match and the short course on the 3rd Sunday. I'm not suggesting schedule every day, but it would help to know at least a couple of the days every month. A practice (individual) day with a spotter using a spotting scope one day a month would be kinda nice for collecting data for new rifles, loads, new shooters, etc. It might be better to introduce the newer guys to this game on an individual day than throw them into a team match.

Tom, if you can give us a heads up when the targets arrive I'm sure a few guys would be more than willing to help set them up on the range.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott A Cousino</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Topstrap,

Eventually if everyone follows thru with their plans to attend, either multiple safe simultaneous shooting positions will have to come into play or there will have to be a limit on the number of shooters allowed to attend.

Scott


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Which it seems like more people talk about coming down than actually do, so like you said, during the summer time shouldnt ever be a huge issue. Only nice thing is maybe we could do some extra shooting if we finished early.
 
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I have a few questions. I read most of the posts and I am quite interested in going. What sort of ranges are we talking about? Reason is I have a 700P .308 that has a scope with only 10 mil up after the 100yd zero. And would a beginner shooter like me have the time to learn? I have only consistently shoot out to 450yd on a 11x7 target. And I use factory ammo but I could have a buddy of mine that has reloading equipment help me make up a load since I have 400 pieces of brass. Do I absolutely need reloads because of the inconsistency with factory ammo?

Thxs for any help.

Also anyone coming from the Erie PA or Ceveland Area?
 
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Hi, there is a post a few up from yours that has maps showing the range layout. First target would be 276 yards and farthest target is 1150 yards. They are not shot in order and I think there was a link in another post that gives the stations and also the yardages shot at on each stage.

Factory ammo might hit the targets out to possibly 500 or 600 yards but handloaded ammo tailored to your gun or with loads that others find work best with a better bullet for the longer ranges would be better especially at the longer ranges. I kinda doubt you'll have enough elevation in your scope for the longer distances from what you've said and a 20moa mount such as EGW aren't that expensive and will give you what you need for the farther targets.

Look forward to seeing you at one of the shoots this summer. We all had to start somewhere with lack of experience but with good discipline and help from others the learning curve is pretty fast. Now... will someone please stop that wind from blowing while I shoot
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Topstrap

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a few questions. I read most of the posts and I am quite interested in going. What sort of ranges are we talking about?<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
276 - 1150 yards
</div></div> Reason is I have a 700P .308 that has a scope with only 10 mil up after the 100yd zero.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You need to start by adding a 20 minute base to get the elevation. This will still leave you short for the 1000 & up shots. You can get a Bushnell straight 10 in the future for less than 200 to give you the elevation you need.
</div></div> And would a beginner shooter like me have the time to learn?<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yes. We'll be more than happy to help ya out. You learn alot by watching others shoot as well.
</div></div> I have only consistently shoot out to 450yd on a 11x7 target. And I use factory ammo but I could have a buddy of mine that has reloading equipment help me make up a load since I have 400 pieces of brass. Do I absolutely need reloads because of the inconsistency with factory ammo?

Thxs for any help.

Also anyone coming from the Erie PA or Ceveland Area? </div></div>

Stick with the factory ammo for now
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi, there is a post a few up from yours that has maps showing the range layout. First target would be 276 yards and farthest target is 1150 yards. They are not shot in order and I think there was a link in another post that gives the stations and also the yardages shot at on each stage.

Factory ammo might hit the targets out to possibly 500 yards but handloaded ammo tailored to your gun or with loads that others find work best with a better bullet for the longer ranges would be better especially at the longer ranges. I kinda doubt you'll have enough elevation in your scope for the longer distances from what you've said and a 20moa mount such as EGW aren't that expensive and will give you what you need for the farther targets.

Look forward to seeing you at one of the shoots this summer. We all had to start somewhere with lack of experience but with good discipline and help from others the learning curve is pretty fast. Now... will someone please stop that wind from blowing while I shoot
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Topstrap

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I have a Leupold 1 Piece 20moa base already. Its the scopes fault. Its a Falcon Menace 4-14 dumb thing uses 12mil to get to a 100yd zero so I only have 10 mil left over but I can hold over from there. So defiantly need to have a load made up before I go? I was thinking Berger 185 LRBT at around 2750 or Lapua 155 Scenars at 2900?
 
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Sorry I can't help you with the load data, I shoot something completely different but have no trouble with 1000 yards with a 140gr Berger in 7-08.

Got a question for you though, that Leupold mount, does it use side screws to hold the rear ring? It is possible that your mount is not centered with the real center of your scope and you are losing full verticle travel inside of the scope. Maybe check to make sure your crosshairs are centered in your scope and then rough in your windage settings with your mount side screws then fine tune again with scope settings. You could also add a couple thin shims under the rear of your mount to gain a little more elevation until you can get a better scope with more travel. I ran into elevation problems with my setup as well until I got the right combination put together since my scope has limited elevation travel also.

Good Luck

Topstrap
 
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Just got back from Shelby.
No Federal match, some reqular.
Decent selection of cci.(sorry Jon I needed the BR2's)
Take a buddy, they have a one box limit.

Tim good to go with factory.
Knowing your scope and how to adjust to next target, is more important.
Check out some of the pages from last years shoots.
This shoot last year had a lot of beginners, including myself.
Load data.
I use 45 grn. RL-15.
168 A-MAX
2830/2850(30" barrel.)
Bullet seating depth is very critical with this load!
And it's over max
Look forward to seeing you there.

Glen
 
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Bring what you have to the shoot. Your rifle should be good to go for a fair number of the shots. You will learn a ton and get to look through a bunch of good gear while you are there. There will be a lot of knoweledgable people you can quiz about reloading, scopes, gear, etc in addition to the great match you get to shoot.

Josh
 
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Looking forward to checking out your range....AR and pistol shooting are fun, but this looks like a great challange!
New to long range shooting, but have a Rem 700 action started and should have it together by spring. May drive out from Columbus on 1/3/10 to meet the crew and check out the operation. How many shooters are you expecting?