TIS slip cuff quick release vs TIS quick cuff

[Gil P.]

Ive been doing some research on a new sling and narrowed it down to one of these two. Ive read a lot of posts on this site about them so I have a pretty good idea of the differences. Has anyone used either of these slings at a match? I want to use this sling for competition. Its hard to get out of a regular cuff sling in a hurry on stages where you need to transition from standing to kneeling to sitting to bipod prone. Both of these slings would solve that problem for me but I want to know which works better as a completion sling.

• I don't want to sew the quick cuff to any of my clothes
• I saw a video of someone demonstrating the two slings and the slip cuff quick release sling looked like it was easier to quickly adjust the carry length of the sling by pulling on it in certain places. Can the quick cuff do this?
• Does the cuff on the quick cuff slip down your arm easily?
• Has anyone had any problems with not being able to cinch either of the sling cuffs tightly enough on your arm?
• What are your opinions on either of these as a competition sling?
• I am not interested in a TAB sling.

 

[427Cobra]

May I ask why you don't want a TAB, I have a couple TAB's, a TIS and a old school 1903, I prefer the TAB over the TIS and 1903, all 3 will get r done, but the TAB RAS is in a league of its own.

 

[Gil P.]

Mostly because I have a certificate for a free TIS sling. Ive never used either but I do like a lot of the features on the TIS. Especially how you can easily release your arm from the sling loop. Ill get a lot of use out of that feature.

 

[Gil P.]

I got the cert from the JC steel target challenge on sunday. Thanks to TIS for sponsoring the match.

 

[djblingbling1]

I had a quick cuff and ended up hating how complicated it was. I mean that in the sense of having to pre adjust the loop, plus IM a pretty small guy and it didnt ajust small enough to really fit my arm (I have heard they will tailor it if requested upon ordering).

I plan on picking up a slip cuff this month though since the sling was very well made, and I have heard nothing but good things about them as a company.

So I guess to answer your questions, for me yes it did slip down and I had trouble keeping the loop up, but that was not the sling as much as me not having jacked arms to keep it in place. I would think for competition use it might be easier than the slip cuff, but for hunting or range use the slip cuff makes more sense to me.

 

[Tactical]

427 the TIS Slip Cuff Quick Release came out a year before the RAS and has fast adjustments as well. Just pointing this out as its a new design. It is very different from my Quick Cuff and does not require the user to wear a separate cuff. Getting in and out is very fast and has reinforced cuff area so you don't have to hunt for the arm opening.

I came out with Quick Cuff in 1980s and it is still the fastest and easiest sling I know of to use but I also like the option of not having a separate cuff on my arm. When I worked as a dedicated sniper this was no big deal as I just used a belt loop on my upper arm to keep Quick Cuff there and loose on arm. Now that I just do a little hunting I like the Slip Cuff QR for the lack of parts and fast adjustments.

 

[Tactical]

I had a quick cuff and ended up hating how complicated it was. I mean that in the sense of having to pre adjust the loop, plus IM a pretty small guy and it didnt ajust small enough to really fit my arm (I have heard they will tailor it if requested upon ordering).

I plan on picking up a slip cuff this month though since the sling was very well made, and I have heard nothing but good things about them as a company.

So I guess to answer your questions, for me yes it did slip down and I had trouble keeping the loop up, but that was not the sling as much as me not having jacked arms to keep it in place. I would think for competition use it might be easier than the slip cuff, but for hunting or range use the slip cuff makes more sense to me.

I use a belt loop on shooting jacket so arm cuff stays in place and is left loose on arm. I will cut your cuff down no charge if you wish.

 

[djblingbling1]

I use a belt loop on shooting jacket so arm cuff stays in place and is left loose on arm. I will cut your cuff down no charge if you wish.

That's some awesome customer service right there!

I actually ended up selling it to a guy locally, but I am picking up a slip cuff this month since I was so happy with the build of my quick cuff. I'm spoiled since US Tactical Supply is about 20 minutes from me so I have easy access to your slings!

Im using a 1907 sling right now but going from the quick cuff to that makes me REALLY want a slip cuff since the 1907 is so hard to adjust.

 

[Powermac]

Used the Quick cuff for 10 years, have a few others AI,TAB and a 1903 type.
Still the quick cuff is my favorite by far, wear the cuff secured to my jacket arm and for quick shots while hunting, it's just to snap in and can not imagine how any other sling can be as fast and easy to get into position.
Belt loops sounds like a good idea.

Now i'm not a competitor anymore, and i just hunt and shoot long range because enjoy it.

The new Slip Cuff QR looks very interesting though, i guess i must buy one and try.

 

[Katahdin]

In my current inventory I have a TIS M24 quick cuff, TIS slip cuff, TAB RAS, TAB QAS, and several Blue Force Gear VCAS slings. I have never owned a regular TAB, but what I can say is I like all of them but for different reasons. I have not found "the one sling" that fits all of my wants/needs yet. This is why I also have a TIS slip cuff QR and a Riflecraft RS1 sling on order (should arrive today!!!).

Anyway the TIS slings are very good quality, the quick cuff is very fast getting into and out of and gives you a very consistent and stable loop sling to use while shooting. The only downside is how long you want/need to wear the cuff during a match because depending on the tightness it may become uncomfortable. With that being said it is still pretty fast sling up when you leave the loop attached to the sling and have to quickly place it around your arm and cinch it down.

The slip cuff is nice too and is a tad slower to adjust than a TAB, however I feel you get a better cinch around your arm with the loop. I will not be able to comment on the TIS slip cuff QR until a couple of days from now. One thing that attracts me to the TIS slip cuff QR is the ability to change the sling's length on the long end fairly quickly, the fastex buckle to get out of the loop quickly, and the loop stays open more compared to other slings.

 

[Gil P.]

The slip cuff is nice too and is a tad slower to adjust than a TAB, however I feel you get a better cinch around your arm with the loop. I will not be able to comment on the TIS slip cuff QR until a couple of days from now. One thing that attracts me to the TIS slip cuff QR is the ability to change the sling's length on the long end fairly quickly, the fastex buckle to get out of the loop quickly, and the loop stays open more compared to other slings.

The ability to quickly adjust the slings length is a big selling point for me as well. I change carry positions a lot when I carry my rifle for long periods of time. The quick cuff is not as easy to adjust the carry length; correct?

 

[Tactical]

The ability to quickly adjust the slings length is a big selling point for me as well. I change carry positions a lot when I carry my rifle for long periods of time. The quick cuff is not as easy to adjust the carry length; correct?

Slip Cuff Quick Release has carry length adjustments like a back pack strap. One handed pull to tighten and one handed pull to lossen. Quick Cuff has sliders which take two hands to adjust and are not as fast to do

 

[NOMAD]

I like them both but I prefer the Quick Cuff for my shooting needs.

We have them in stock at IDB if you need to order.

 

[djblingbling1]

To add to my previous post, just got home from purchasing a slip cuff, and for me it is way more practical than the quick cuff was. Again I dont shot competitively so the added time to get in and out dosnt matter, plus I feel this is a tighter fit on the loop.

 

[Gil P.]

Which do you feel is more stable? The slip cuff seems to have many more advantages with its ease of adjustability, not to mention the quick release on the slip cuff quick release model.

 

[djblingbling1]

Personally I feel the SC is more stable for the sole reason that you can since it down way tight, although the downside is my arm will fatigue faster that way. They pretty much operate the same way once you are hooked into your loop, so It really is more of a preference than a one better than the other. I would say in closing if you are constantly shooting from a sling supported position, go with the quick cuff...if you just want a solid sling with an enhanced ability to use as a shooting aid when needed, go slip cuff. For me I shoot off a bipod 99% of the time at the range.....I will log groups with a supported sling just to add another dimension of shooting to work on, but for me it is never ideal.

 

[Gil P.]

Thanks dj, I think ill go with the slip cuff quick release.

 

[Tactical]

Both are very stable but the Quick Cuff has the advantage of having a detachable cuff that can be as tight as needed on the arm and pulling on it will never get looser. This design also becomes what is known as a "No Pulse" sling because the fastex buckle cuts down on pulse going from arm to rifle. The Quick Cuff is basically a Match Rifle sling with tail section for carrying. A Match Rifle sling is used in Palma, small bore and many other forms as the sling of choice for precision shooting.

Both are great slings and have advantages over each other.

 

[Gil P.]

Both are very stable but the Quick Cuff has the advantage of having a detachable cuff that can be as tight as needed on the arm and pulling on it will never get looser.

If I was slung up with the slip cuff (had the cuff on my arm) and I pulled on it, it would get looser? Im almost positive you don't mean that but I figure I would ask to be clear.
In your opinion then, the quick cuff is the better choice for strictly competitive use?

 

[Tactical]

They both work great for comp. Used correctly neither will get loose.

 

[Gil P.]

They both work great for comp. Used correctly neither will get loose.

Sent you a pm.

 

[Katahdin]

Well I have been slinging up and dryfiring for the past couple of days with the TIS Slip Cuff QR and Riflecraft RS-1. The TIS is definitely GTG and will more than likely be my primary sling. It is quick adjust and gives you a solid shooting platform. When compared to the TAB RAS I like it a bit better because the TAB uses a huge metal adjuster,that can become uncomfortable depending on your hand position. With the RAS you can shoot and adjust the sling while slung in patrol carry when going to kneeling, sitting, or squatting, where the TIS is more quick adjust for carry and hasty sling if need be.

After using the TIS slip cuff QR I would never think of owning a TAB QAS again. The TAB is more expensive and the TIS does everything it can but better. You can cinch down the loop tighter, its quick to get out of, and if need be you can throw the rifle over your back and adjust the sling as quick. The only thing the TAB has on it is the color, the TIS is a lighter tan and the TAB is a coyote tan, however I will pick performance over prettiness any day of the week. I should note its not like the TIS is ugly it just doesn't match my stock pack from TRIAD where the TAB does.

The RS-1 is a very well thought out sling and priced right ($32). It is super simple, appears very durable, and is very comfortable due to lack of hardware. It is made out of the same webbing I believe as the BFG VCAS and you can get it in a variety of colors and camo. It is a great field sling (closest example is the leather ching sling) as it allows you to sling up quickly like a hasty sling but offers way more support. The other thing is you can set the tension and forget it, what I mean is adjust the sling for either prone or sitting and you can use the same setting for standing, kneeling, and squatting depending on where you place your support hand on the rifle. The tail end can be adjusted to whatever length you desire (mine is let all the way out) so can carry it over your shoulder or back. This sling will more than likely replace all of my VCAS slings.

 

[Tactical]

Katahdin, thanks for kinds words on slings. On color that is the original Coyote Tan. Same color all my US Military Slings are. Since I started using that they now have about half a dozen colors of Coyote. That's the color the contracts spec'd and to change would have to change contract. It does blend with sand box well. I like to keep the tan versions all the same so I am not looking for contract slings when military orders come in. Remember lighter blends as camo better than darker.