Titanium firing pin for Rem 700
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It sounds all very tacticool... but a titanium firing pin will buy you nothing.... You are better off spending the money on powder, primers and boolits... and using the extra rounds for training. Which will net you WAY more than a few nanoseconds of saved lock time.
Cheers,
SIrhr
Cheers,
SIrhr
They are if you know what youre talking about. If someone is trying to save weight on a firing pin spring they would have a better result by getting lighter shoes or emptying their pockets of keys and wallet.
But that also means it has less mass and thus requires more spring to impart the same amount of energy on the primer. You might not get light strikes but you also might. If you do get a tougher spring that means its a tougher bolt lift as already stated above. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Nothing wrong with the factory.
I've spent an awful lot of money of stuff that I really don't need, and really doesn't make me shoot better, so I'm going to be the LAST person to tell you to not waste your money on a Ti firing pin, but even I'm asking what's the benefit here? Saving weight? The weight of the $$$ bills from you wallet? Please tell us what the benefit is and I might order one too!! I mean crap............I just bought an S&B PMii for a gun I thought about selling and really don't need, so the cost of a Ti firing pin is trivial.
Titanium and aluminum firing pins paired with a slightly heavier spring give both faster lock times and ignition consistency. I believe Olin did some fairly detailed patent work towards applying it to Winchester Model 70 rifles which is available in a google search.
Blackheart made titanium pins and Tubb uses aluminum. If I buy a Remington 700 the pin and spring are usually the next thing I swap after the trigger.
https://www.google.com/patents/US3056226
Blackheart made titanium pins and Tubb uses aluminum. If I buy a Remington 700 the pin and spring are usually the next thing I swap after the trigger.
https://www.google.com/patents/US3056226
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The lighter pins are about faster lock time. And as sinister says, they can have a positive 'impact' (pardon the pun) on ignition as, when paired with a better spring, they can impart more energy on the primer cup. Energy = ,mass x velocity squared... speed up the lighter pin and you can still get more energy to the primer cup.
That said... the difference is so miniscule that its ability to improve the accuracy/consistency of the shooter in a meaningful way is very debatable. We are talking thousandths of a second here.
As I said above, most shooters are far better off spending the money on ammo or components and range time.
As for weight savings in a bolt gun? Blowing your nose will have more effect on what you are carrying, weight-wise.
It's about lock time and impact energy.
Cheers,
Sirhr
That said... the difference is so miniscule that its ability to improve the accuracy/consistency of the shooter in a meaningful way is very debatable. We are talking thousandths of a second here.
As I said above, most shooters are far better off spending the money on ammo or components and range time.
As for weight savings in a bolt gun? Blowing your nose will have more effect on what you are carrying, weight-wise.
It's about lock time and impact energy.
Cheers,
Sirhr
I have a Remington 700 in .308 that has a titanium firing pin and extra power spring installed. I bought the speed lock kit because the improvement in lock time, however minute, seemed like a good idea, as I intended to shoot this rifle quite a bit from unsupported positions. I have used this rifle for work and for hunting. I currently have over 5000 rounds logged through it without any malfunctions. I also have several other Remington 700’s that have factory firing pin assemblies. These rifles have round counts that range from about 1000 to a little over 3000 rounds, also with no malfunctions.
In my experience, there has been no difference in reliability between the titanium pin and the factory pin, however, there has been no discernible difference in accuracy, attributable to lock time, either. I do not reject that there is a theoretical improvement; I merely state that I can’t tell the difference on target. In fact, the only benefit I’ve seen is that the titanium doesn’t rust if you run it dry.
In my experience, there has been no difference in reliability between the titanium pin and the factory pin, however, there has been no discernible difference in accuracy, attributable to lock time, either. I do not reject that there is a theoretical improvement; I merely state that I can’t tell the difference on target. In fact, the only benefit I’ve seen is that the titanium doesn’t rust if you run it dry.
Stay away from titanium tips.. If you ever pierce a primer the tip will be forever etched. Do this a few times and the tip is ruined.
If you want to run a titanium body then just know that it is about twice as heavy as the 70 series aluminum body.
Dtubb
If you want to run a titanium body then just know that it is about twice as heavy as the 70 series aluminum body.
Dtubb
Thank you for the informative replied. I have read that the titanium firing pins tend to pierce primers from a few others. So I am just gonna purchase an aluminum firing pin.
