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Gunsmithing Tool talk — Vises
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Watched a TV show tonight that talks about the local attractions.
This one was focusing on restaurants.
One owner in the business was lamenting the fact the economy was "so hot" best he has seen it in 38 years.........
Yet they all hate Trump.
Would they have this if......Hillary?
This one was focusing on restaurants.
One owner in the business was lamenting the fact the economy was "so hot" best he has seen it in 38 years.........
Yet they all hate Trump.
Would they have this if......Hillary?
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I don’t care to tariff the Chinese. I care instead to force them onto a modern Enviromental Protection platform.
No USA level pollution and workforce protections? No selling here.
Why is it ok that Ling Xiao got fatal exposure based cancer when she was 4? Are dead kids Ok just because they aren’t OUR dead kids?
No USA level pollution and workforce protections? No selling here.
Why is it ok that Ling Xiao got fatal exposure based cancer when she was 4? Are dead kids Ok just because they aren’t OUR dead kids?
In Kansas City we have a boom that I have never seen before.
We have more tower cranes up and running than I can ever remember.
Skilled trades men & women are needed badly!
As I wear my flame retardant clothing you can bring the heat on my comments:
Tariff the shit out of foreign goods, stop all foreign aid for 5 years, drug test everyone on welfare,
support our Vets.
Chet
We have more tower cranes up and running than I can ever remember.
Skilled trades men & women are needed badly!
As I wear my flame retardant clothing you can bring the heat on my comments:
Tariff the shit out of foreign goods, stop all foreign aid for 5 years, drug test everyone on welfare,
support our Vets.
Chet
Agreed.
Pretty hypocritical of us to enjoy our cheap Walmart shit while some chinese guy is dying of chromium poisoning.
Well I guess they have plenty of people.
How about the environemental impact of a bunker oil burning cargo ship coming across the Pacific, than going back.
We could get it to our markets with less C)2 emissions.
Wish our republican leadership would use the green bullshit to the american workers advantage.
I know they do. Hell, their Party planning office high fives each other for every 10,000 Chinese people who die of unnatural causes.
It’s why I will never be disarmed and I will never contemplate communism as “the answer”.
It’s why I will never be disarmed and I will never contemplate communism as “the answer”.
This reminds me of a conversation I had about big game hunting and animal conservation with an anti-trophy hunting guy.
If you take away big money legal trophy hunting, there is going to be no money for animal conservation and those animals are going to get poached in to extinction by hungry Africans instead of a few animals being killed by hunters while managing the size of the herd.
China is messed up, no argument there and USA made bench vises have disappeared because the demand for $400 vises isn't there.
Putting a tariff on China isn't going to change demand for $400 vises.
They are two separate things so what will a tariff accomplish?
I agree that China needs enviornmental standards but look at the Paris Climate Accord and how much China was going to change. How much will they change for bench vises?
You need a bigger lever to move China.
The problem with "progressives" in this country is that they want to implement stupid policies that won't have any of the effect they imagine but they will mess up a lot of things for people who just want to go shopping or want to go to work.
You could spend 100 years trying to move a mountain with a spoon but mostly your Cheerios are going to taste like dirt.
If you take away big money legal trophy hunting, there is going to be no money for animal conservation and those animals are going to get poached in to extinction by hungry Africans instead of a few animals being killed by hunters while managing the size of the herd.
China is messed up, no argument there and USA made bench vises have disappeared because the demand for $400 vises isn't there.
Putting a tariff on China isn't going to change demand for $400 vises.
They are two separate things so what will a tariff accomplish?
I agree that China needs enviornmental standards but look at the Paris Climate Accord and how much China was going to change. How much will they change for bench vises?
You need a bigger lever to move China.
The problem with "progressives" in this country is that they want to implement stupid policies that won't have any of the effect they imagine but they will mess up a lot of things for people who just want to go shopping or want to go to work.
You could spend 100 years trying to move a mountain with a spoon but mostly your Cheerios are going to taste like dirt.
I don't care if China pollutes but if our regulations are $250 of a $400 US made vice charge China that amount to level the playing field.
China didn't even have to start complying with the Paris Accords until I think 2030. For the US et, al it was upon signing.
Bullshit.
Eventually China is going to pretty much control the world economy by numbers and the fact that socialism will let them undercut India until they have an insurmountable lead (if India gets close).
China knows this and won't change anything that will get in the way of that.
If you don't want to be underneath China's thumb you have to take advantage of them as much as possible and try to beat them on innovation (Apple's strategy).
If you can figure out a way to slow them down without screwing us up even more, tell everyone.
China knows this and won't change anything that will get in the way of that.
If you don't want to be underneath China's thumb you have to take advantage of them as much as possible and try to beat them on innovation (Apple's strategy).
If you can figure out a way to slow them down without screwing us up even more, tell everyone.
They steal innovation and our tech companies/govt willingly allow it.
China has its strengths but innovation doesn't appear on the list.
That's a cultural thing. I don't know if they will ever catch up but US educated Chinese over here don't seem to have any trouble innovating.
I'm not sure if it would be good or bad if China learned how to encourage innovation. If they just decide to be rich, no problem. If they decide they want to control everything, that could be bad.
I'm not sure if it would be good or bad if China learned how to encourage innovation. If they just decide to be rich, no problem. If they decide they want to control everything, that could be bad.
Note when they come over here they don't study "The Conflicts of Transgenderism in a CIS Gendered World"
The Chinese students study engineering, mathematics, technology, computer sciences.
That other stupid shit is meant for the dumbing down of American kids.
Germany I believe. It's a German company not sure if made there I think they are. They aren't cheap.
Well, first off America is a weak and easy target with this kinda shit --and it's not just with China. I did security systems for years. At EVERY dealer I worked with save one, and that one was a startup I was helping out, they used without fail DSC equipment. You've seen it in movies and TV shows, it's probably the most filmed brand of alarm system. And there's nothing wrong with DSC, it's good shit and personally, I'd rather use it than their biggest US competitor Ademco. But Ademco wanted to stick to 1970's mfg. methods but without steel trap designs like Radionics where people are willing to put up with it. Programming sucked and wasn't intuitive. DMP finally came along with some new shit and it may be swinging back but the damage is done.
See, DSC is a Canadian company and they subsidized DSC for years. To make they hypercompetitive for the US market. And why wouldn't you? When your competitor's govt. is rigged with sellouts that only work for the highest bidder, what can you expect?
With vises in particular, I have a Chinese one. I'm pretty sure it's Chinese, it came from Lowes I think, is blue and has that Chinese "look". I have another press vise that's Chinese and a POS copy of a US one. I don't use the vise that much and if I did or I ever broke this fucker, it'd get replaced with something better. But for now and for the forseeable future, I don't see it giving way for what I do. It gets the job done. For most American consumers, it's really all that's needed.
I think it would be smart to direct our mfg. at this point. To high tech export items alongside domestic items. We need to be making it easier for people to start high end businesses if they're capable. There's no goddamn reason I should be on disability here other than we have a feckless sellout govt. that feeds on it's citizens rather than give them a hand. Math is my thing. Throw in an engineer or two and a physicist along with an investor and you'd have a new high tech mfg. company overnight. I'd be an easy bet because I'd be a sure thing. I don't gamble, so I warn you now, if I ever challenge you to a game of chance, you've already lost. Math can be used a lot like a crystal ball for sake of argument here, so making correct determinations in the future based on contemporary variables is kinda what I do. Or can do. They doubly make it difficult for someone in my situation because if I "try" I can lose my benefits and if I fail, it may take who knows how long to unfuck it. Long enough I'd be homeless for sure. It's not worth it. I try to save, but I can't save enough in a rigged economy to start my own affair. Not the kind of money I'd really need to make it work.
So instead of adding to society, I'm just a drag on it. But it's not my fault, it's not by my design or wish. I'm fucking sick of it. But what's the good of knowing math or being able to make the best widget when you're very govt. is competing against it's own citizens, because in effect it's what's happening if you wanna look at it that way.
So yeah, Chinese vises, it's all most of us can afford for a vise OR need... Thanks to those who "serve" us in DC.
See, DSC is a Canadian company and they subsidized DSC for years. To make they hypercompetitive for the US market. And why wouldn't you? When your competitor's govt. is rigged with sellouts that only work for the highest bidder, what can you expect?
With vises in particular, I have a Chinese one. I'm pretty sure it's Chinese, it came from Lowes I think, is blue and has that Chinese "look". I have another press vise that's Chinese and a POS copy of a US one. I don't use the vise that much and if I did or I ever broke this fucker, it'd get replaced with something better. But for now and for the forseeable future, I don't see it giving way for what I do. It gets the job done. For most American consumers, it's really all that's needed.
I think it would be smart to direct our mfg. at this point. To high tech export items alongside domestic items. We need to be making it easier for people to start high end businesses if they're capable. There's no goddamn reason I should be on disability here other than we have a feckless sellout govt. that feeds on it's citizens rather than give them a hand. Math is my thing. Throw in an engineer or two and a physicist along with an investor and you'd have a new high tech mfg. company overnight. I'd be an easy bet because I'd be a sure thing. I don't gamble, so I warn you now, if I ever challenge you to a game of chance, you've already lost. Math can be used a lot like a crystal ball for sake of argument here, so making correct determinations in the future based on contemporary variables is kinda what I do. Or can do. They doubly make it difficult for someone in my situation because if I "try" I can lose my benefits and if I fail, it may take who knows how long to unfuck it. Long enough I'd be homeless for sure. It's not worth it. I try to save, but I can't save enough in a rigged economy to start my own affair. Not the kind of money I'd really need to make it work.
So instead of adding to society, I'm just a drag on it. But it's not my fault, it's not by my design or wish. I'm fucking sick of it. But what's the good of knowing math or being able to make the best widget when you're very govt. is competing against it's own citizens, because in effect it's what's happening if you wanna look at it that way.
So yeah, Chinese vises, it's all most of us can afford for a vise OR need... Thanks to those who "serve" us in DC.
I have a lot of vises in my shop but one of the handiest is this very old Yost vise I found at an antique shop a couple years ago. Pull the lever towards you and the vise swivels and rotates to any angle, then push the lever away to lock it solidly in that position. I keep this one mounted on my welding bench. I bought a modern one from Yost for my buddy's Christmas present last year, cost twice as much and was imported. It didn't have the lever mechanism either.
I love this viseI have a lot of vises in my shop but one of the handiest is this very old Yost vise I found at an antique shop a couple years ago. Pull the lever towards you and the vise swivels and rotates to any angle, then push the lever away to lock it solidly in that position. I keep this one mounted on my welding bench. I bought a modern one from Yost for my buddy's Christmas present last year, cost twice as much and was imported. It didn't have the lever mechanism either.
