Gunsmithing Tornado Brushes Nay? or Ya?

[mildot326]

So the shotgun brushes seem to be pretty good? what about the brushes for rifle and pistol? any "negative" issues? or are they good to go? Thanks

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

If I remember correctly they are Stainless steel . Do you want something harder than the steel inside the bore?

 

[mildot326]

I understand your point, that said, these brushes seem to get very good reviews from folks that use them on shotguns? Why not on rifle or pistol barrels? or rather the response(s) isn't quite as favorable?

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

The brush is harder than the barrel steel and will very quickly kill your barrel. I've seen it done with these brushes and it can also be done when wrapping a patch around a brush and then use abrasives. Both become a lap and remove metal.
Probably invented by a group of gunsmiths and barrel makers.

The only shortcut to cleaning is to clean frequently so it reduces the number of soak and brush cycles. You can't fool Mother Nature.

 

[EdO]

The only place for a stainless steel bore brush is in the trash....

 

[Gene Poole]

There was a long thread on this several months ago on Accurate Shooter:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...-brush-on-douglas-ss-barrel-disaster.3925334/

 

[BurnOut]

HARD nay from me, unless you're trying to clean something like a Mosin Nagant barrel that has been used with corrosive ammo. The obvious difference between shotgun and rifle barrels is... rifling. There's really just not much in a shotgun barrel that can be screwed up by using something that aggressive. Sure, you might scratch the bore of the shotgun barrel, but you're not likely to really alter the way it shoots... the same cannot be said of a rifle barrel.

I don't even like to use brass/bronze brushes in my barrels if I can help it... between better living through chemistry (read: proper solvent selection) and use-only-as-necessary bore paste/polish on a bore mop, my barrels get as clean as they need to. Also note that as Dave T mentioned above, I don't let them get filthy before I clean them.

 

[natdscott]

...these brushes seem to get very good reviews from folks that use them on shotguns? Why not on rifle or pistol barrels? or rather the response(s) isn't quite as favorable?

Shotguns are not expected to have bores perform at the level of a rifle. They are also mostly not, well...rifled.

Wear on the smooth, polished bore of a shotgun, no more often than the barrels are usually cleaned, is extremely minimal. A good number of them being chrome-lined might also make you begin to see how it would not be easy to damage most with a stainless bore brush. Chrome runs about 60-65 Rc in hardness, which is at least 6 times as hard as the stainless in that brush (I'm assuming it's 316).

Pair all of the above with the fact that shotguns, while magnificent at what they do, could not reliably resolve small amounts of concentric erosion, and you have a recipe for "success" of the Tornado product in that market, even if it DOES do minute amounts of damage.

I bet you still wouldn't find many guys with a $15,000 Krieghoff on their truck tailgate running a GD stainless steel brush through it's bores. I could be wrong.

The only place for a stainless steel bore brush is in the trash....

That's the right answer unless a guy wants to use them to clean battery cable ends, etc.

-Nate

 

[mildot326]

Thanks troops, nuff said, Cheers