Treating matches as athletic events?
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My first thought after skimming through this: You guys mean to tell me that the top shooters in PRS aren't religiously exercising, eating healthy, intensely focusing on mental game and developing a lifestyle around being able to perform at 110%?
It seems like standard procedure at the top of other shooting sports I participate in.
It seems like standard procedure at the top of other shooting sports I participate in.
All my personal best matches I was 'fasting'. I intermittently fast basically everyday. Or, I generally don't eat until after noon or later everyday and I'm generally more productive on those days. I'm still trying to figure out if caffeine helps or hinders. Which is difficult because it is probably dose sensitive.
I did IF for a long time. I found that 1 cup of black coffee was great. 2-3 and it would start to have an effect. I fasted from midnight to 4pm so I was super focused during the morning.
I need caffeine to function. I can handle too much of it.
Not enough leads usually to raging headaches, particularly in combination with hunger
Wendy's is dog shit. At least get some decent from Culver's.
Great plan except for the little issue that 90% the country does not have a Culver's.
That's their problem
Can confirm @D_TROS has always got nuts in his mouth at matches
He's also right about not falling for the stage traps, some of that is experience. People try to train to go faster, you need to train to slow the fuck down.
If you rush to get all ten shots off and miss six when you could have slowed down and made six or seven good hits you'll kick yourself.
That's the kind of smart math that adds up at the end of the day.
As far as your list of stuff, I mean if you want to go ahead it's not unhealthy or anything... but realistically most of it isn't going to help and you're going to be in really good shape in the middle of the pack while the overweight plumber who shoots every day after work is on the podium.
This isn't a marathon, it's a shooting sport. So train for what gets you the points, shooting. Doing a bunch of burpees and running around isn't going to add points to your score.
You need to practice, a lot, shoot as many local matches as possible, and most importantly learn how to get out of your own way mentally.
You'll cost yourself more by mind fucking yourself than anything else.
The mental game is a huge component just like it is with any sport. There's a reason Tiger was so good in his prime, his mental game was better than anyone's.
Obviously so is practice. There's a reason Jordan and Kobe were the best ever. They practiced harder than anyone.
I think where being in better shape will help, is in the little things like getting into and out of positions a little more efficiently, less muscle fatigue etc. The obvious stuff. I'm looking at the less obvious stuff. Saving a half second getting into and out of position. Being more flexible so that I have an even bigger advantage over the tall and big dudes trying to move in and shoot from the dog house or MPRSCs water crate. Being able to move around on the 4x4 A-Frame from hell quicker and stay stable on longer. If I can keep my HR, BR and BP closer to resting levels, that's an advantage. That ball being said, part of the mental game is realizing that those things cannot be worked on at the match and my focus should be on what I need to do at the stage I'm on.
Pair all of that, with a good dry and live fire practice routine. Along with, good loading techniques etc
Obviously so is practice. There's a reason Jordan and Kobe were the best ever. They practiced harder than anyone.
I think where being in better shape will help, is in the little things like getting into and out of positions a little more efficiently, less muscle fatigue etc. The obvious stuff. I'm looking at the less obvious stuff. Saving a half second getting into and out of position. Being more flexible so that I have an even bigger advantage over the tall and big dudes trying to move in and shoot from the dog house or MPRSCs water crate. Being able to move around on the 4x4 A-Frame from hell quicker and stay stable on longer. If I can keep my HR, BR and BP closer to resting levels, that's an advantage. That ball being said, part of the mental game is realizing that those things cannot be worked on at the match and my focus should be on what I need to do at the stage I'm on.
Pair all of that, with a good dry and live fire practice routine. Along with, good loading techniques etc
Culvers is better. If I see a Culvers in the Southeast, it's usually only in areas that aren't anywhere near or on the way to long range ranges.
He's PHAT: Pretty, Hot, And Tempting.
You guys don’t shoot hungover and with rumbley guts from Mexican at that greasy joint the night before?
I mean, yeah electrolytes, kale and CrossFit. Get my 12hrs!
I mean, yeah electrolytes, kale and CrossFit. Get my 12hrs!
Your IF has created some level of metabolic flexibility. If you deprive your body of constant food intake (particularly carbs), it will eventually figure out how to function without. On the other hand, if you're already in the mode of eating every two hours during your normal waking hours and then drop yourself into a mentally stressful and physically demanding situation, your body will be quite unhappy without a steady stream of easily-digested calories. And since we can generally burn carbohydrates faster than we can consume them, and internal stores are limited, that math will go negative given enough hours of activity (how long depends upon one's conditioning and activity level - I can burn 100g of carbs each hour at maximum sustainable pace and take in 50g each hour, and that sort of deficit will deplete my internal reserves after 6-8 hours in this mode).
IF + big doses of so-called "Zone 2" endurance work (such as long hikes) will yield a strong foundation for surviving and thriving during a long event, as this will result in an efficient metabolic system that is happy to burn stored fat to sustain long efforts. Given the difficulty of talking even endurance sport athletes into such a regimen, I don't see any big rush by competitive shooters to take this approach.
Caffeine is a drug, you sir have a drug dependency.
Duluth trading firehose pants. Half of what the tactile pants are and well made
I’ve been known to rock the basketball shorts and Nike’s when the heat starts to hit. 
Look into the gear made for paintball. Specifically designed for running, sliding, shooting off your knees or in improvised positions. Also incorporates a lot of mesh and breathable fabrics for the summer.
Athletic event? For this 73 year old, moving from position to position in a stage, carrying, setting up and shooting a 15 to 20 pound rifle, for an entire day corresponds to an athletic event.
And I do not consider myself a slouch, being a cyclist with a wall full of 1st, 2nd and 3rd place medals in Senior Olympic Cycling events. (And getting ready right now for the Mississippi State Senior Olympics.
Not bragging, just stating it can be a tough day.
And I do not consider myself a slouch, being a cyclist with a wall full of 1st, 2nd and 3rd place medals in Senior Olympic Cycling events. (And getting ready right now for the Mississippi State Senior Olympics.
Not bragging, just stating it can be a tough day.
*ahem* *clears throat*.....'Scuse me guys, Colin here....While many of us are splitting a few hairs about the "Pros" and drills and how becoming a PRS champion is about superior eye sight and something dry fire something. Here's the tactical games link. I think it may be what the OP was looking for 
Tactical Games
Apparently, you become a "tactical athlete" by slinging an AR over your shoulder right after doing burpees, muscle ups or snatches....But, it looks fun either way! CrossFit games meets marksmanship....SIGN ME UP!
Tactical Games
Apparently, you become a "tactical athlete" by slinging an AR over your shoulder right after doing burpees, muscle ups or snatches....But, it looks fun either way! CrossFit games meets marksmanship....SIGN ME UP!
Naw man, you need superior eye sight to be champion material.
That made me laugh. Well done!
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Claiming victim status. It is one of the most popular and important activities of the current generation.
You, Sir, have no future in the fashion and style industry!I’ve been known to rock the basketball shorts and Nike’s when the heat starts to hit.
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;-) haha
A younger more motivated me used to give up caffeine before the Fleet and All Navy Matches. Coworkers said I was mean for the month. My last couple of active duty matches before I "retired" I gave up on that idea. I shot about the same. The thing is your body is used to some of that and the changes that you go through to skip it for a while whether it is two weeks before or just that day are more detrimental than the supposed problem.
Hydrate, eat fairly normal, alternate Gator Ade and water, (2 Gator Ades a day max too many salts). And buy a pit dog once in a while. Physical condition is a great thing for shooting but so is the mental game. Think about the X's not the 8's and don't sweat the small stuff.
I will say quit smoking, that is a terrible way to spend ammo money.
Hydrate, eat fairly normal, alternate Gator Ade and water, (2 Gator Ades a day max too many salts). And buy a pit dog once in a while. Physical condition is a great thing for shooting but so is the mental game. Think about the X's not the 8's and don't sweat the small stuff.
I will say quit smoking, that is a terrible way to spend ammo money.
This thread is NOT what I thought it was going to be about. I thought it would be about stuff like.... running. lol
When I started shooting multi gun and tac rifle matches specifically, I would just sort of "hurry" between shooting locations. I thought it was stupid to run, not because it wasn't faster, just because I didn't care enough and I certainly didn't want to make it seem like I cared. But I would always finish second to this one old guy. I couldn't beat him. Finally one match I said "screw it, I'm going to run". And I did, and I won handily. And I felt dirty. lmao Outrunning some old man just so I could win some local club match, no honor in that.
Now I'm one of those old guys. MotherF'er, how'd this happen.
When I started shooting multi gun and tac rifle matches specifically, I would just sort of "hurry" between shooting locations. I thought it was stupid to run, not because it wasn't faster, just because I didn't care enough and I certainly didn't want to make it seem like I cared. But I would always finish second to this one old guy. I couldn't beat him. Finally one match I said "screw it, I'm going to run". And I did, and I won handily. And I felt dirty. lmao Outrunning some old man just so I could win some local club match, no honor in that.
Now I'm one of those old guys. MotherF'er, how'd this happen.
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