Night Vision Tremor 3 with PVS 30

[m1ajunkie]

Good evening,

I recently picked up a PVS 30 which has been my first experience with NV shooting. I'm looking to update optics on my rifle (6.5CM AR) to be more friendly with night shooting. I really like the idea of a tremor 3 as it'll allow me to hold without dialing for the majority of the shooting I'll be doing at night, plus offer several other cool features I want to try out.

Are any of you running the Tremor 3 behind a clip on NV? Is the reticle too busy to use at night? Does the NV limit the amount of mag you can use so the reticle is too small?

I'm concerned about the illumination in the tremor 3.... it's only a couple of dots in the reticle vs the full cross hair being lit up. Are most of you running illuminated reticles behind clip ons, or is the black reticle good enough when running the clip on?

FWIW I'm looking at something likely in the 5-25x range.

 

[db2000]

ZCO Mpct3 lights up entire reticle and has NV mode

 

[jwramp]

I have a T3 in the S&B 3-20 and its illumination is quite dim - just lights up a bunch of dots all over and I never use it. Reticle works fine with the -30 though. I can see how some folks might like a chunkier reticle when backed out to 3-6x, but I can see it fine with my eyes. I'll see if I can scrounge up any photos of the combo.

 

[Huskydriver]

Ideally you will want a reticle that is large enough to use the substensions on 10x since that's about the max you will be able to use the pvs30 with...

 

[charnicus]

Based upon your combinations I would maybe steer you towards less mag. I have found 10-12 power to be a sweet spot with the 30. The more you go the nastier the picture. Illumination is not a necessity when using a nv clip on. The advantage of the T3 with a clip on is more so when combined with lasers / illumination. As you dial, you walk away from the zero of those devices.

 

[TheHorta]

Get a 4-16x56 Ultra Bright in T3.

Don’t get no better than that for any NV clip-on.

 

[Reload10]

Nothing wrong with the t3 or h59 behind a clip on. I do like to use illumination, seems to help me focus on the image more so then reticle.

 

[SkyScrapin]

I haven't found a Horus reticle that has adequate reticle illumination. The dots are usually very dim and tiny. The reticles themselves are also quite thin for clip-on usage in the 3-10x range.

The perfect clip-on optic would be a 3-15 that has a 1-8 or 1-10 FFP style reticle in it. The only change I would add is a smaller floating center dot. Since no such optic exists to my liking, the 1-8 and 1-10 are about as good as it gets. These are on the lower end of the sphere of my optics selection, and they're still my number 1 choice for clip-ons.

The S&B 3-27 LLR-Mil reticle has an astonishingly bright illum - red dot bright. At 3x, I can hardly see the reticle, but the illum turns it into a red dot which is pretty sweet for hunting at night inside of 200 yards with most calibers. The reticle becomes usable around 7 or 8x+ which is sufficient for my needs thus far. If 8x+ was needed, this would be my optic of choice that enabled me across all ranges which means little unless you're targeting past 300 yards.

To each his own.

 

[m1ajunkie]

Really appreciate the responses here! Getting experience with my PVS30 at night has really opened up a new can of worms for me with shooting and gear haha