Gunsmithing Trigger operation? how does it work?
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Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
So what happens when the spring is stronger or stiffer than the factory? Any characteristics of the trigger change? what about safety?
So what happens when the spring is stronger or stiffer than the factory? Any characteristics of the trigger change? what about safety?
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
Did you lose the original spring or something? If you did I would call Remington and order a new one. Any other spring has not been validated and sear engagement is the last thing to try to modify. It is a quick way to get your 15 minutes of fame on MSNBC.
Did you lose the original spring or something? If you did I would call Remington and order a new one. Any other spring has not been validated and sear engagement is the last thing to try to modify. It is a quick way to get your 15 minutes of fame on MSNBC.
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
I called remington. They will not sell any part of the trigger. I called wolff and they do not make that spring. I purchased 4 triggers and they are missing that spring. The guy I purchased them from went back to the gunsmith he bought them from and he gave him 4 replacement springs. He sent them to me but I double checked them before using them. The springs sent do not match my other springs exact. They are close but not exact. I wish I could find a place that sold the exact replacement or these triggers are worthless.
I called remington. They will not sell any part of the trigger. I called wolff and they do not make that spring. I purchased 4 triggers and they are missing that spring. The guy I purchased them from went back to the gunsmith he bought them from and he gave him 4 replacement springs. He sent them to me but I double checked them before using them. The springs sent do not match my other springs exact. They are close but not exact. I wish I could find a place that sold the exact replacement or these triggers are worthless.
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
That spring is not too critical, it just resets the sear after firing. Feel the sear up force with your finger on another Remmy, and try to match the push strength. The engagement is set by a setscrew, so as long as the spring pops up the sear, the engagement will be OK.
That spring is not too critical, it just resets the sear after firing. Feel the sear up force with your finger on another Remmy, and try to match the push strength. The engagement is set by a setscrew, so as long as the spring pops up the sear, the engagement will be OK.
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I just got off the phone with remington again and they said they do not sell individual trigger parts. That if I was to replace that spring with a heavier spring it would add more weight to trigger pull. Of course it is remington and trigger in same sentence so liability is something they want to avoid at all cost.
Is the guy right? will a heavier spring here make the trigger pull heavier?
I just got off the phone with remington again and they said they do not sell individual trigger parts. That if I was to replace that spring with a heavier spring it would add more weight to trigger pull. Of course it is remington and trigger in same sentence so liability is something they want to avoid at all cost.
Is the guy right? will a heavier spring here make the trigger pull heavier?
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flynlow3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got off the phone with remington again and they said they do not sell individual trigger parts. That if I was to replace that spring with a heavier spring it would add more weight to trigger pull. Of course it is remington and trigger in same sentence so liability is something they want to avoid at all cost.
Is the guy right? will a heavier spring here make the trigger pull heavier? </div></div>
It will not make the pull heavier. If anything, it will make the pull lighter by unloading the sear equal to the amount of difference in the two spring rates, but I doub't it would even be measurable. Theoretically a heavier spring could increase the friction between the firing pin and its bore as the pin passes and compresses this spring which could cause a change in lock time. In reality, as long as you don't go overboard on the spring force it should be fine. As long as the spring can reliably lift the upper sear surface enough for a reliable reset it should work.
That spring is what I call air soluable.
Everytime I forget to put that back pin in the housing, it is gone. I have replaced several with no problems.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flynlow3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got off the phone with remington again and they said they do not sell individual trigger parts. That if I was to replace that spring with a heavier spring it would add more weight to trigger pull. Of course it is remington and trigger in same sentence so liability is something they want to avoid at all cost.
Is the guy right? will a heavier spring here make the trigger pull heavier? </div></div>
It will not make the pull heavier. If anything, it will make the pull lighter by unloading the sear equal to the amount of difference in the two spring rates, but I doub't it would even be measurable. Theoretically a heavier spring could increase the friction between the firing pin and its bore as the pin passes and compresses this spring which could cause a change in lock time. In reality, as long as you don't go overboard on the spring force it should be fine. As long as the spring can reliably lift the upper sear surface enough for a reliable reset it should work.
That spring is what I call air soluable.
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
from the orphaned parts box or spring assortments. I bought a spring assortment from somewhere...maybe Brownells or Numrich.
McMaster Carr is a good place of you need it tomorrow and don't mind the costs.
from the orphaned parts box or spring assortments. I bought a spring assortment from somewhere...maybe Brownells or Numrich.
McMaster Carr is a good place of you need it tomorrow and don't mind the costs.
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
I have one. Gimme a call and we can sort out the details on shipping/payment.
This spring resets the transfer bar of the trigger. As stated, a spring with a different rate could work, but your better off with an origional piece or at least one with a similar rate.
Good luck
C.
I have one. Gimme a call and we can sort out the details on shipping/payment.
This spring resets the transfer bar of the trigger. As stated, a spring with a different rate could work, but your better off with an origional piece or at least one with a similar rate.
Good luck
C.
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
I ended up ordering them from a remington contract gunsmith called Mann and son's. If anyone else needs any, Their number is 618 357 2911. I am in no way affiliated with them. I just know what a 8%t(# of a time I had finding someone who had them and hope this thread may help someone who lost one in the carpet.
I ended up ordering them from a remington contract gunsmith called Mann and son's. If anyone else needs any, Their number is 618 357 2911. I am in no way affiliated with them. I just know what a 8%t(# of a time I had finding someone who had them and hope this thread may help someone who lost one in the carpet.
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First buy off Chad Dixon though because he supports this forum. Once he is out, you can find the ^
First buy off Chad Dixon though because he supports this forum. Once he is out, you can find the ^
Re: Trigger operation? how does it work?
I lost the same spring. Order a Remington Ejector Spring. I got mine from Brownells. Cut the spring so that it is 8 1/2 coils long. Put the factory end over the stud in the trigger and voila new spring that works like a champ.
I lost the same spring. Order a Remington Ejector Spring. I got mine from Brownells. Cut the spring so that it is 8 1/2 coils long. Put the factory end over the stud in the trigger and voila new spring that works like a champ.
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