Trump 2024 platform: He has my attention…

[OldSalty2]

What will determine the next election is, well....who will control the next election...?

If the swing states get head-out-of-ass and actually run the elections according to their laws and not "rules" by non-elected sold-out/compromised bureaucrats, then Trump wins in a landslide over any democrat candidate.

Happened all over the country...

Nothin fishy....just all those mail-ins that were counted "last"...

 

[BCP]

Please read this very carefully.....if Trump wins the GOP Primary then you will have another libtard as President for four more years as Presidential elections are determined by swing voters...independents...who will NOT vote for Trump.

So, while his possibly running is exciting to the far wing of the GOP and makes them feel virtuous about the ideological purity, it ain't exciting to anybody else and he will lose to a Democrat again.

This ^^ is real politics. Ignore it at your own peril.

I think the Republican politicians will punt the Presidency in favor of winning the House.

 

[BufordTJustice]

Republicans will fuck it up...of that I'm sure.

 

[Lostin89]

Look, you don't have to agree with me....I don't really care if you do or don't. But you really don't have to feel "triggered" just because someone has a different prediction on an election outcome....you fucking twinky.

I gave my rational....what's yours? I mean, you actually do have some logic...some actual thought... to back up your position?

No? Yeah, didn't think so.

Three pages and your the only weiner who got his/her/it's panties in a wad..congrats.

Trump 2024, I guess that could be fun to watch but I don't have the answers as to how anything will go. I've been watching a non stop romcom for 14 years.

 

[BufordTJustice]

Oh... and the phrase "...the most important election in our lifetime." will be used to ad nauseam.

 

[BullGear]

Until we can all agree to disagree, this country will continue to go backwards. That's why I'm sure this country will fall behind many countries which will then be financially devastating. I do believe Trump could be the only person to keep the country in check. The Demwits will do whatever they can to destroy the USA as we know it. Look at what Trump accomplished for the economy. I can't imagine what he could have done if he was given a fair shot by some in his own party.

 

[pmclaine]

The only reason the cheat was exposed was because the narcissist never thought Trump would get more votes than he did.

They went into panic mode and had to board up windows and make up stories about broken water mains.

We saw this.

And still does it matter?

 

[XP1K]

Agreed. As someone stated above, it'll take more than one man to drain the swamp. But it would be better than anything else I see on the horizon.

You're right, it will take more than one man to drain the swamp. That being said, you'll never drain the swamp from within the swamp. The swamp to to experience a severe drought. DeSantis needs to stay right where he is. As do all the other decent governors. Whatever state you live in, vote in a strong governor and vote in strong constitutional sheriff's. With your governor and your sheriff on your side the feds can piss right off.

We're not going to fix this sending good people to get bogged down in the swamp. We're going to have to build strong counties and work out from there. Not sure how that all works but it starts with getting involved at a local level and getting the word out.

If trump did one thing he exposed the evil that is DC for what it is. Personally I don't think he needs to come back. There's a fire under a lot of people at the moment that up until trump was dethroned were all to happy just sitting on the sidelines rooting for their side. Trump comes back and all the people that are waking up to how things work are going to go right back to being bench warmers.

 

[wade2big]

Until we can all agree to disagree, this country will continue to go backwards. That's why I'm sure this country will fall behind many countries which will then be financially devastating. I do believe Trump could be the only person to keep the country in check. The Demwits will do whatever they can to destroy the USA as we know it. Look at what Trump accomplished for the economy. I can't imagine what he could have done if he was given a fair shot by some in his own party.

So why do people still insist on rewarding the unity party with real actual votes? Republicans do not represent most of us and haven’t in a long while. Voting for republicans has gotten us here. The lesser of two evils is still evil. I’m done with “R”.

 

[OldSalty2]

Lol @ trump being a republican....by party name... I guess.

His platforms are super simplistic, yet resonate and are equally hated by both party establishments. That alone should tell you something.

 

[TexPatriot]

You're right, it will take more than one man to drain the swamp. That being said, you'll never drain the swamp from within the swamp. The swamp to to experience a severe drought. DeSantis needs to stay right where he is. As do all the other decent governors. Whatever state you live in, vote in a strong governor and vote in strong constitutional sheriff's. With your governor and your sheriff on your side the feds can piss right off.

We're not going to fix this sending good people to get bogged down in the swamp. We're going to have to build strong counties and work out from there. Not sure how that all works but it starts with getting involved at a local level and getting the word out.

If trump did one thing he exposed the evil that is DC for what it is. Personally I don't think he needs to come back. There's a fire under a lot of people at the moment that up until trump was dethroned were all to happy just sitting on the sidelines rooting for their side. Trump comes back and all the people that are waking up to how things work are going to go right back to being bench warmers.

Thats an age old strategy that works, given enough time. We may be talking decades, centuries. People clan up and join other clans to fight back against the King and his men.

Local counties become clans.

Problem is, the Left know if they make California unlivable, Californians will leave, taking their politics with them to infect those clans ot counties.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

I have much more Faith that DeSantis can do the things Trump said he would do but made no attempt at. As already seen here in this discussion, there is a split (deep) among the likely Republican voters as to whether or not Trump can win. I'd like to see how that question pans out when we just let Trump waddle away into "been there done that" Land and run DeSantis. He can beat Mr. Potato Head and The Ho.

There are serious divisions within likely Republican Voters as to whether or not Trump can win. There doesn't seem to be that much division when we consider whether or not DeSantis can win. Trump had his shot and it's time to move along now because as has already been pointed out, it's the Swing Voters that decide the election and they are not gonna vote for Trump. No matter what.

VooDoo

 

[BullGear]

The only reason the cheat was exposed was because the narcissist never thought Trump would get more votes than he did.

They went into panic mode and had to board up windows and make up stories about broken water mains.

We saw this.

And still does it matter?

That's been the problem all along. The R's saw this happening in real time, but never did anything. I really do believe the Rinos and the swamp affiliates would rather have Biden and his Demwits in the White House than another 4 years of Trump. You can't tell me there was much outrage. They let the election be stolen without that much of a protest.

But also think of the damage to the Rs, if Trump is once again their candidate and he loses. It would be devastating for the party for years to come. That would concern me too. Regardless of what you think of Trump, he was and to some extent still is the Republican's Golden Boy. There is no one sitting in the wings who has the electrifying personality that is like Trump. That could come back and bite the Rs more than anything else, for both houses of Congress too.

 

[mikeshaw2]

Trump received more votes in his election than bid than any candidate in history, besides basement Biden in the very same election. Trump could win the next election as an independent. Many, many people who voted for Trump previously did not vote. Many more don't plan on voting for any more RINOs.

Thats why we see all this crap being spread about how he is un-electable now. Just like they said in 2016.

Biden galvanized the democrats against Trump. Then we look at every audit and they were changing half the ballots. I would make a guess Biden didn't get 30% of the votes they say he did. They literally stole and filled out millions of ballots, and still had to change ballots at the machines. I.E ballot adjudication.

TR thought the same thing too and basically split the republican vote, guaranteeing a dem win.

I would argue that the dementia patient won despite his candidacy rather than because of it. The people behind the scenes wanted someone biddable and not Trump. ...especially not Trump! They got their wish and the wheels promptly fell off

M

 

[mikeshaw2]

The brainwashing isn’t 100% effective on everyone in the mil obviously. Same can be said regarding the gov’s other indoctrination points, e.g., the classroom, and the living room in front of the TV.

they're kicking out the people in the military that didn't get the jab, so there's that portion of the (former) military that isn't brainwashed.

Will it help? Got me. Can't hurt the right's cause tho

M

 

[rtB]

Knowing the Rhino party, they'll probably try to run McCain - again. Being dead is just a minor inconvenience, at least he won't say something stupid. A lot of idiots would probably vote for him as well. Some in this thread...

 

[theLBC]

You're right, it will take more than one man to drain the swamp. That being said, you'll never drain the swamp from within the swamp. The swamp to to experience a severe drought. DeSantis needs to stay right where he is. As do all the other decent governors. Whatever state you live in, vote in a strong governor and vote in strong constitutional sheriff's. With your governor and your sheriff on your side the feds can piss right off.

We're not going to fix this sending good people to get bogged down in the swamp. We're going to have to build strong counties and work out from there. Not sure how that all works but it starts with getting involved at a local level and getting the word out.

If trump did one thing he exposed the evil that is DC for what it is. Personally I don't think he needs to come back. There's a fire under a lot of people at the moment that up until trump was dethroned were all to happy just sitting on the sidelines rooting for their side. Trump comes back and all the people that are waking up to how things work are going to go right back to being bench warmers.

yup. while it is easy to point at adam schitt and say "he knew the whole time it was a hoax", we have to remember that people on both sides were in those closed door hearings for the intel committee when the witnesses all admitted under oath that they had no evidence, and they didn't even have any sort of proof that russians hacked the dnc server. both sides knew all along during the mueller sham that it was a hoax.
lindsey graham is a piece of shit and a good example of the gop and what they are.

 

[TexPatriot]

I would ask Trump that million dollar question(s). Did you learn anything the first time and if so what would you do differently and would you go on the offense and put together an effective team to go after the criminals that stole your, our presidency? Because nobody going to jail really suc't last time and now they really need to go to jail.

DeSantis, would you take on the promise Trump made and at least try and drain the swamp?

 

[BullGear]

I would ask Trump that million dollar question(s). Did you learn anything the first time and if so what would you do differently and would you go on the offense and put together an effective team to go after the criminals that stole your, our presidency? Because nobody going to jail really suc't last time and now they really need to go to jail.

DeSantis, would you take on the promise Trump made and at least try and drain the swamp?

There is no single person, including the POTUS that is going to drain the swamp. It's a deep and wide swamp with most important offices being ran by a charter member of the swamp. I don't see any possible draining in a civil or peaceful way.

So, what's that leave us with as a remedy for this illegal conduct, which sadly is our government?

 

[Snipe260]

History will look more favorably upon Donald Trump than what he's going through today. But only if the Demwits ever give up their Dictatorship of the Socialist Republic of The United States. I promise you that if Trump died today, the Demwits would still continue to crucify his name and his time he held the office of the POTUS.

Prove me wrong.

Those you speak of need to be scared to see the light of day!

 

[Familydude]

Jesus fuck, this thread is ate up with the retard.

Several of my co-workers are independents. My extended family is also mostly made up of independents. Most of my friends are Republicans. In my many, at times heated conversations with them, Trump had his chance, Biden’s a fool and they’re ready to move on from both.

Mainstream Media is the worst place to gather factual information.

 

[supercorndogs]

I don't believe the GOP would allow an up and coming member to leave a state that could carry the R candidate into the White House. Also putting 2 members into a win or lose it all situation isn't the best strategy going forward.

How did something written by Texpatriot Post #89 get quoted under my screen name in post 98? There is literally nothing written by me in the post quoted as me.

 

[supercorndogs]

Several of my co-workers are independents. My extended family is also mostly made up of independents. Most of my friends are Republicans. In my many, at times heated conversations with them, Trump had his chance, Biden’s a fool and they’re ready to move on from both.

Mainstream Media is the worst place to gather factual information.

 

[TexPatriot]

How did something written by Texpatriot Post #89 get quoted under my screen name in post 98? There is literally nothing written by me in the post quoted as me.

I dunno. But your screen name is sure over my quote.

 

[BullGear]

How did something written by Texpatriot Post #89 get quoted under my screen name in post 98? There is literally nothing written by me in the post quoted as me.

"Mail in posts." That's the only answer....

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

My Perspective: The only reason Trump won in 1016 was because , literally, *No ONE* not even Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton. Sanders won the nomination and the Democrats appointed Hillary behind closed doors (and were convicted of that) and Independents and outraged Democrats voted third party or actually voted for Trump just to fuck the Democrat Party - he was the lesser of two evils.

Trump did absolutely nothing he said he was gonna do, lied and alienated everyone who was decent to him, and is generally viewed by those who voted for him over Hillary as The Lesser of Two Evils and we had a 50/50 chance of getting something. And we got screwed.

Same in 2020 - *Nobody* wanted another 4 years of Trump - they held their nose and voted for Biden because he was, again, the lesser of two evils. Biden is hated even amongst those who voted for him. For the love of God all the Republicans have to do is run a *REAL* Republican and they'll beat the Dems to shit in 2024 - Run Trump again? That contest was already decided in Biden's favor. Doing it again and expecting a Trump victory this time is just madness.

VooDoo

 

[pmclaine]

My Perspective: The only reason Trump won in 1016 was because , literally, *No ONE* not even Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton. Sanders won the nomination and the Democrats appointed Hillary behind closed doors (and were convicted of that) and Independents and outraged Democrats voted third party or actually voted for Trump just to fuck the Democrat Party - he was the lesser of two evils.

Trump did absolutely nothing he said he was gonna do, lied and alienated everyone who was decent to him, and is generally viewed by those who voted for him over Hillary as The Lesser of Two Evils and we had a 50/50 chance of getting something. And we got screwed.

Same in 2020 - *Nobody* wanted another 4 years of Trump - they held their nose and voted for Biden because he was, again, the lesser of two evils. Biden is hated even amongst those who voted for him. For the love of God all the Republicans have to do is run a *REAL* Republican and they'll beat the Dems to shit in 2024 - Run Trump again? That contest was already decided in Biden's favor. Doing it again and expecting a Trump victory this time is just madness.

VooDoo

Im guessing Mitt Romney is a real Republican in your mind.

 

[EddieNFL]

Several of my co-workers are independents. My extended family is also mostly made up of independents. Most of my friends are Republicans. In my many, at times heated conversations with them, Trump had his chance, Biden’s a fool and they’re ready to move on from both.

They ever offer up any names?

 

[EddieNFL]

For the love of God all the Republicans have to do is run a *REAL* Republican and they'll beat the Dems to shit in 2024 -

VooDoo

Name a few.

 

[supercorndogs]

My Perspective: The only reason Trump won in 1016 was because , literally, *No ONE* not even Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton. Sanders won the nomination and the Democrats appointed Hillary behind closed doors (and were convicted of that) and Independents and outraged Democrats voted third party or actually voted for Trump just to fuck the Democrat Party - he was the lesser of two evils.

Trump did absolutely nothing he said he was gonna do, lied and alienated everyone who was decent to him, and is generally viewed by those who voted for him over Hillary as The Lesser of Two Evils and we had a 50/50 chance of getting something. And we got screwed.

Same in 2020 - *Nobody* wanted another 4 years of Trump - they held their nose and voted for Biden because he was, again, the lesser of two evils. Biden is hated even amongst those who voted for him. For the love of God all the Republicans have to do is run a *REAL* Republican and they'll beat the Dems to shit in 2024 - Run Trump again? That contest was already decided in Biden's favor. Doing it again and expecting a Trump victory this time is just madness.

VooDoo

Is that what all those Trump trains were about? No one wanting him as president again. Is that how he was packing stadiums? Is that how he picked up millions more voters in 2020 vs 2016, because people were just tired of him. Come'on man.

 

[Baron23]

My Perspective: The only reason Trump won in 1016 was because , literally, *No ONE* not even Democrats wanted Hillary Clinton. Sanders won the nomination and the Democrats appointed Hillary behind closed doors (and were convicted of that) and Independents and outraged Democrats voted third party or actually voted for Trump just to fuck the Democrat Party - he was the lesser of two evils.

Trump did absolutely nothing he said he was gonna do, lied and alienated everyone who was decent to him, and is generally viewed by those who voted for him over Hillary as The Lesser of Two Evils and we had a 50/50 chance of getting something. And we got screwed.

Same in 2020 - *Nobody* wanted another 4 years of Trump - they held their nose and voted for Biden because he was, again, the lesser of two evils. Biden is hated even amongst those who voted for him. For the love of God all the Republicans have to do is run a *REAL* Republican and they'll beat the Dems to shit in 2024 - Run Trump again? That contest was already decided in Biden's favor. Doing it again and expecting a Trump victory this time is just madness.

VooDoo

 

[NoDopes]

Same in 2020 - *Nobody* wanted another 4 years of Trump - they held their nose and voted for Biden because he was, again, the lesser of two

Trump won even with the massive fraud prior to Nov. 3rd.. they had to suspend counting in five states and double down on the fraud to steal it.
Your smoking more crack than Hunter.

 

[rtB]

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It's not that we don't want to hear his (or your) opinion. (We don't but go ahead and spout them) It's that facts don't support many of those opinions, and when someone points that out, name calling and hurt feelings follow.

 

[supercorndogs]

I see some big logical errors based on erroneous information. The question is can they admit to the erroneous information, or must they double down on this "un-electable" fallacy.

He only won in 2016 because of hate for hillary? Ok, why did he get more votes in 2020. Simple questions.

 

[rtB]

He only won in 2016 because of hate for hillary? Ok, why did he get more votes in 2020. Simple questions.

Obviously Trump only won in 2016 because of widespread Russian interference in the election. And the 2020 election was the most secure in history, so how could anyone have cheated. Didn't you see CNN?

 

[NoDopes]

We also know there was a coordinated effort by USPS staff to discard mail-in ballots from heavy republican districts. Several were charged and found guilty. In CA, there were thousands that ended up in the city landfill in massive dump. There was forced adjudication to swap votes to Biden.
So, Trump's "more votes than 2016" wasn't even all his real 2020 votes.
If he runs in 2024 and we can keep the fraud down somewhat, he wins handily.

 

[ken226]

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

Name a few.

DeSantis. Actually, anyone but a rewarmed Democrat calling himself a "Stable Genius" and a Republican when literally months prior to the start of the 2016 process he was a staunch Democrat and contributed shit loads- O-cash to the Clinton Foundation. He wants Power and Money. He's a failed Grifter and won't win in 2024 - that contest was already done and he lost. He claims it was "stolen" but the truth is he lost. He lost...and he'll lose again. Run a real Republican this time and win.

VooDoo

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

DeSantis. Actually, anyone but a rewarmed Democrat calling himself a "Stable Genius" and a Republican when literally months prior to the start of the 2016 process he was a staunch Democrat and contributed shit loads- O-cash to the Clinton Foundation. He wants Power and Money. He's a failed Grifter and won't win in 2024 - that contest was already done and he lost. He claims it was "stolen" but the truth is he lost. He lost...and he'll lose again. Run a real Republican this time and win.

VooDoo

Bwaaaahahaha. Do you know that saying about keeping your mouth shut? You know the one about proving you're an idiot when you do say something?
Well, it's too late.

 

[supercorndogs]

We also know there was a coordinated effort by USPS staff to discard mail-in ballots from heavy republican districts. Several were charged and found guilty. In CA, there were thousands that ended up in the city landfill in massive dump. There was forced adjudication to swap votes to Biden.
So, Trump's "more votes than 2016" wasn't even all his real 2020 votes.
If he runs in 2024 and we can keep the fraud down somewhat, he wins handily.

And Colorado forced everyone to illegally delete all the data from the election and made a law against having an audit. Then raided the only persons house who didn't follow orders, Tina peters, then pushed her out in an obviously fraudulent primary when none of the other stuff worked.

She has been under attack for not deleting information that is not supposed to be deleted because it is supposed to be able to be audited by the people to ensure the integrity of our elections. Same reason you have to let pole watchers observe. Same reason you shouldn't adjudicating hundreds of thousands of votes.

Indicted Colorado clerk Tina Peters faces another arrest warrant for violating bond

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

They ever offer up any names?

Anyone but Trump or Biden. Losers proven...anyone but the present losers, liars, and fuck ups, Literally - anyone. We can't do much worse than we are doing. A diseased dying weasel could do better than our choices since about 25 years ago. We been played - anyone but the Status Quo and "normally" filthy rich cock suckers. How about a working Dude with 50 years experience paying taxes. running a a Dojo and 3 Corporations and teaching MA and has been married to the same woman for 42 years and is a normal, everyday, working breathing living person? Never missed a house payment - never lied, cheated, stole - never missed a car payment. Normal Hard Living honest American Craftsman who worked 3 jobs at a time at times, lived in a car 40+ years ago and is now respected and earned that respect. How 'bout we nominate that shit?

Why does every candidate need to be a lying power hungry millionaire/billionaire who has never done anything but grift their entire Life?

Dog Shit is better than what we get as candidates lately.

VooDoo

 

[EddieNFL]

DeSantis. Actually, anyone but a rewarmed Democrat calling himself a "Stable Genius" and a Republican when literally months prior to the start of the 2016 process he was a staunch Democrat and contributed shit loads- O-cash to the Clinton Foundation. He wants Power and Money. He's a failed Grifter and won't win in 2024 - that contest was already done and he lost. He claims it was "stolen" but the truth is he lost. He lost...and he'll lose again. Run a real Republican this time and win.

VooDoo

So back to career politicians?

 

[theLBC]

Anyone but Trump or Biden. Losers proven...anyone but the present losers, liars, and fuck ups, Literally - anyone. We can't do much worse than we are doing. A diseased dying weasel could do better than our choices since about 25 years ago. We been played - anyone but the Status Quo and "normally" filthy rich cock suckers. How about a working Dude with 50 years experience paying taxes. running a a Dojo and 3 Corporations and teaching MA and has been married to the same woman for 42 years and is a normal, everyday, working breathing living person>

Why does every candidate need to be a lying power hungry millionaire/billionaire who has never done anything but grift their entire Life?

Dog Shit is better than what we get as candidates lately.

VooDoo

trump is the only president in recent history that didn't leave office much richer than when he was elected.
in fact, he lost money to try to save america.

 

[EddieNFL]

Anyone but Trump or Biden.

VooDoo

"Anyone but..." Isn't that how we got Biden?

 

[EddieNFL]

trump is the only president in recent history that didn't leave office much richer than when he was elected.
in fact, he lost money to try to save america.

Yeah, but still wealthy...mean tweets...hurt people's feelings...

 

[rtB]

So you park your car at work in pretty much the same spot every day. Been parking in the same spot for years. One day you come out, and your car is gone. Like no where to be found. So you report it to the police, who tell you well tough luck, we'll see what we can do. The police leak it to the media that you reported your car stolen, but the media don't much like you. So on the evening news, they report that -you - Billy Bob are an Idiot, you can't find your car, and you must have been drunk or on Meth. So everyone in town now thinks you're a drunken buffoon. Then about 2 weeks later, the police find your car on the other side of town, up on blocks with the wheels gone with a couple of homeless people sleeping in it. So they leak that to the media and the media reports that Billy Bobs car has been found, he stole his own wheels for meth money and his two friends were captured at the scene. The police are understanding, and decline to press charges against you. Must have been a bad night.

That is our media today.

 

[BullGear]

Is that what all those Trump trains were about? No one wanting him as president again. Is that how he was packing stadiums? Is that how he picked up millions more voters in 2020 vs 2016, because people were just tired of him. Come'on man.

I get tired of the lame excuse that he wasn't good enough in 2020. It has clearly been proven over the last 2 years that the election was illegally stolen from Trump. But there are those who hated Trump that there will never be enough proof that will prove that point. These Never Trumpers are my biggest concern for this country. When a personal beef prevents one from seeing the truth, this is one of the reasons for the downfall of this country, then add to it an election that was clearly stolen, that completes the domino effect of a perfect storm.

Sad to see our country dissolve the way it has over the last few months.

 

[supercorndogs]

The question always becomes how many believe it, and how many get paid to post it. Social media is an opinion shaping tool, lots of people get paid to push a narrative.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I'd consider voting for Adam Shit and Eric Swallowswell. The entire alphabet is corrupted along with the other three branches of government. There's no fixing it without an epic fire. Might as well get it on.

 

[theLBC]

imho, trump was a great president. he opened up energy, tried to secure the border, and lowered my tax rate, which helped pay for my daughter's college tuition. he also stopped some of the illegal shit in syria (we were literally arming terrorists). he made some bad calls because he trusted the wrong people...but overall he was good for me personally.