Trump Rounding up USPS boxes- Yes!

[Fig]

Lol. Google is your friend you fucking moron. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about at all. You're just regurgitating Democrat talking points and then refuting them yourself as you start to understand what a clusterfuck legalizing cheating is going to cause.

I'm fine with in-person voting, as one of a number of legal options to vote. In states where absentee and mail-in voting are legal and regulated ... all I want is for the USPS to be allowed to deliver the damn mail the same way they did in November of 2016. But ... if I have to admit, if I was an ardent Trump supporter looking at the situation unfolding as it is today, I'd be trying to kneecap the USPS too. It's probably the only path to victory given the expected number of pandemic-induced mail-in votes. It's a workable strategy. Not ethical or democratic (small "d") ... but it could work.

Wow. That's really big of you. You're quite the bipartisan. I'm fine with the Democrats cheat-by-mail scheme as long as every in-person vote is received and tabulated by the Trump Campaign first before it goes to election officials. Essentially your cheat-by-mail scheme throws millions of votes to the wind, and then allows Democrat activists to collect and tabulate them before dropping them enmass into the mail!

Why don't you also explain to us why showing ID to vote is racist? This ought to be good in your spirit of bi-partisanship!

What is the difference? You suddenly care about a chain of custody for in person voting where, for hundreds of years, they choose a member of each party to monitor that poling place to ensure a chain of custody and free and fair elections. WTF happened to "EVERY VOTE COUNTS", and as Bush V. Gore was going on leftist fucktards chanting, "COUNT ALL THE VOTES, COUNT ALL THE VOTES", as more and more Democrat votes were found on every recount. Funny that.

Regurgitating Democrat talking points and what you heard on CNN is ridiculous. There is a truth, and it isn't YOUR truth, but an objective on based on facts.

 

[FS1]

DHS took over election security, instantly the Dems change the system to mail in votes. The most insecure system of course. Mail the ballot to everyone and like magic all it has to be is returned and it is valid...no matter who actually filled it out and sent it in.

 

[Fig]

First off, thank you for giving a response that has some substance behind it. Hard to come by over here...
I don't see the left quite the same way you do, but similarly, I dislike almost all of what they stand for . I do think a lot of what's coming from "the left" now, and what people hate so much about it, is really the MEDIA. Trump rails against them, and many of us know that at least to a large degree, what he's saying is true. (When I read the Art of the Deal, is when I thought he would win.)
The media for the most part have selfish intentions, IMO, and have pitted the country against each other with lies, deceit, and hatred.
If you take a look at when things really started spiraling out of control here, it's when mass media became easily consumed over electronic devices and the internet. First, their method was simply to sell more; drama fear and anger sells more news, right?
Over time, they became a tool, for the right and the left. And the Russians took advantage of it in 2016; now nobody is going to trust results of the elections, even without this mail in issue.
The media is the enemy, and there are no checks and balances in place to stop them. It's the one thing the forefathers couldn't have seen coming...

You're repeating yourself. The Democrats and the Media are the same fucking thing. Look at every Democrat apparatchik and official who "retires" to the media when their turn at ruling you is over. The two are one and the same populated with people who believe they have a right to rule you, and that you are a fucking moron who will be given "their truth".

The two being one is where you are failing. The left can only rule free people by dividing them and sowing hatred, and we are seeing that writ large as they pull out all the stops with their BLM and ANTIFA storm troopers. The left can only rule if we give up our liberty. They know they cannot take it from us, so they divide, sow hatred, attempt to disarm us, and basically work to destroy the Republic all with the approval of their own diseased conscience because they've been taught to believe that they are enslaving America for our own good.

If you still believe that the Russians meaningfully interfered in our election I got nothing for you. They did the same ineffectual shit they always do, and that we've always ignored because it's so pathetic. The entire thing was a smoke screen to try and hide the fact that the Obama Administration was using the entire government security apparatus FBI, CIA, NSA to spy on their political enemies and sow false stories in their media to try and sink his campaign.
Technically there WAS Russian interference/influence in the election. You will not find a single piece of actual intel that says it changed a single vote. It is all a 100% lie, and clearly you are STILL buying into it even as the perpetrators are just now, four years later, being criminally charged for the deception.

I am not so stupid as to think Obama/Biden (or Hillary) will be brought to justice for all their crimes, but denying their crimes is far worse than jsut the fact they won't be prosecuted.

 

[1911addict42]

You're repeating yourself. The Democrats and the Media are the same fucking thing. Look at every Democrat apparatchik and official who "retires" to the media when their turn at ruling you is over. The two are one and the same populated with people who believe they have a right to rule you, and that you are a fucking moron who will be given "their truth".

The two being one is where you are failing. The left can only rule free people by dividing them and sowing hatred, and we are seeing that writ large as they pull out all the stops with their BLM and ANTIFA storm troopers. The left can only rule if we give up our liberty. They know they cannot take it from us, so they divide, sow hatred, attempt to disarm us, and basically work to destroy the Republic all with the approval of their own diseased conscience because they've been taught to believe that they are enslaving America for our own good.

If you still believe that the Russians meaningfully interfered in our election I got nothing for you. They did the same ineffectual shit they always do, and that we've always ignored because it's so pathetic. The entire thing was a smoke screen to try and hide the fact that the Obama Administration was using the entire government security apparatus FBI, CIA, NSA to spy on their political enemies and sow false stories in their media to try and sink his campaign.
Technically there WAS Russian interference/influence in the election. You will not find a single piece of actual intel that says it changed a single vote. It is all a 100% lie, and clearly you are STILL buying into it even as the perpetrators are just now, four years later, being criminally charged for the deception.

I am not so stupid as to think Obama/Biden (or Hillary) will be brought to justice for all their crimes, but denying their crimes is far worse than jsut the fact they won't be prosecuted.

Republicans don't have anywhere near as strong of a handle on it, but they too use a similar method to gain "sheep" followers. The rest of what you wrote, I pretty much agree with, other than the issue of the Russians. I don't think what they did swayed the result of the election, but, I'll say again, they caused us to mistrust the system , and disseminated a lot of false information that causes a lot of resentment and chaos. They tried before, but it's a lot easier now, again, when everyone has an iphone and Facebook and can do lazy reading, as opposed to picking up the WSJ from outside the house and actually reading a well written article.

 

[Fig]

HOW!?!?!? With internet trolls and bots on social media!?!?!? Through RT and Larry King!?!?!? If there was ANYTHING, ANYTHING that did as you say it was the Steel Dossier! It was Russian disinformation being channeled directly to our intelligence agencies BY DEMOCRATS, for NO REASON other than it was convenient and to hurt Donald Trump. Then going after Flynn and creating the whole narrative in the media through their operatives to cover their tracks.

Honestly, if you cannot see it clearly now you simply don't want to see it, and don't want to admit that this was a full on coup that simply did not involve the military, but involved every part of our government outside the military. The rest of everything is pointless political bullshit next to what they did, and it appears they are going to completely get away with it as you continue to buy their bullshit that there was some legitimate concern that started the whole thing other than their spying and not accepting the outcome of an election. Obama was the empty suit dirt-bag we suspected him of being all along. Biden was his willing accomplice. They had to run him to try and stop the investigation. If he wins the whole thing goes away day one. He won't make Trump's mistake of keeping "non-partisans" in government. It will be a purge greater than Bill Clinton's.

 

[Rthur]

Republicans don't have anywhere near as strong of a handle on it, but they too use a similar method to gain "sheep" followers. The rest of what you wrote, I pretty much agree with, other than the issue of the Russians. I don't think what they did swayed the result of the election, but, I'll say again, they caused us to mistrust the system , and disseminated a lot of false information that causes a lot of resentment and chaos. They tried before, but it's a lot easier now, again, when everyone has an iphone and Facebook and can do lazy reading, as opposed to picking up the WSJ from outside the house and actually reading a well written article.

You've struck an important point.
Both parties have sheep.
As Trump isn't really a member of either.
The established red team has been against him every chance they've had.
Their actions have been inaction.

Lol, whether online or on paper the same folks, global elite, decide the print.

R

 

[rustyinbend]

Lol. Google is your friend you fucking moron. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about at all. You're just regurgitating Democrat talking points and then refuting them yourself as you start to understand what a clusterfuck legalizing cheating is going to cause.

Wow. That's really big of you. You're quite the bipartisan. I'm fine with the Democrats cheat-by-mail scheme as long as every in-person vote is received and tabulated by the Trump Campaign first before it goes to election officials. Essentially your cheat-by-mail scheme throws millions of votes to the wind, and then allows Democrat activists to collect and tabulate them before dropping them enmass into the mail!

Why don't you also explain to us why showing ID to vote is racist? This ought to be good in your spirit of bi-partisanship!

What is the difference? You suddenly care about a chain of custody for in person voting where, for hundreds of years, they choose a member of each party to monitor that poling place to ensure a chain of custody and free and fair elections. WTF happened to "EVERY VOTE COUNTS", and as Bush V. Gore was going on leftist fucktards chanting, "COUNT ALL THE VOTES, COUNT ALL THE VOTES", as more and more Democrat votes were found on every recount. Funny that.

Regurgitating Democrat talking points and what you heard on CNN is ridiculous. There is a truth, and it isn't YOUR truth, but an objective on based on facts.

Interestingly ... I don't have a problem with showing a valid government ID to vote in-person ... just like I don't have a problem with voter roles and signature-matching to validate mail-in ballots. I don't regurgitate anyone's talking points. I use my life-experiences and common sense to make up my own mind, and vote in accordance with my beliefs and values. And I will defend to the death your right to do the same. Both of our votes count equally, irrespective of the diversity of our views. It's why I love this country, and why I fought for it.

 

[1911addict42]

HOW!?!?!? With internet trolls and bots on social media!?!?!? Through RT and Larry King!?!?!? If there was ANYTHING, ANYTHING that did as you say it was the Steel Dossier! It was Russian disinformation being channeled directly to our intelligence agencies BY DEMOCRATS, for NO REASON other than it was convenient and to hurt Donald Trump. Then going after Flynn and creating the whole narrative in the media through their operatives to cover their tracks.

Honestly, if you cannot see it clearly now you simply don't want to see it, and don't want to admit that this was a full on coup that simply did not involve the military, but involved every part of our government outside the military. The rest of everything is pointless political bullshit next to what they did, and it appears they are going to completely get away with it as you continue to buy their bullshit that there was some legitimate concern that started the whole thing other than their spying and not accepting the outcome of an election. Obama was the empty suit dirt-bag we suspected him of being all along. Biden was his willing accomplice. They had to run him to try and stop the investigation. If he wins the whole thing goes away day one. He won't make Trump's mistake of keeping "non-partisans" in government. It will be a purge greater than Bill Clinton's.

I don't know how, because there's too much dispute over what the "facts" are, from politicians AND intelligence agencies.
There's a huge amount of information and unknowns to that story, (I've read a lot too) and my conclusion is that I really don't know who did what. My instincts tell me there was corruption all over, Democrats and Republicans.

 

[357Max]

Wow! Place holder for later when I’m not trying to be productive at work.
This thread really highlighs how effectively media has brainwashed many. The choice should be Crystal clear. The fact that it’s not to many shows just how insidious the media is!

 

[Flintdog2011]

I'm way less worried about collecting mailboxes, and way more worried about a conscious effort to slow mail delivery sufficiently to force people to polling locations during a pandemic instead of encouraging/enabling vote-by-mail. It just feels like a strategy borne of desperation. Am I the only person on this forum that (a) loves the 2nd Amendment ... AND ... (b) believes that every vote matters and should be enabled and counted in a democracy?

I live in Oregon. We've been 100% vote-by-mail for many years, with pretty much "Zero" fraud. Same with the other vote-by-mail states.

I'm afraid of how the 2nd Amendment will be treated in an all-Democratic government.
I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

That scenario isn't going to well for Belarus right now ... I'm just sayin' ... let everyone vote, and whoever wins ... wins. That's the way it's supposed to work.

We dont live in a democracy, thankfully; and no, not everyone should turn out and vote, or even be allowed to vote...

 

[Fig]

Interestingly ... I don't have a problem with showing a valid government ID to vote in-person ... just like I don't have a problem with voter roles and signature-matching to validate mail-in ballots. I don't regurgitate anyone's talking points. I use my life-experiences and common sense to make up my own mind, and vote in accordance with my beliefs and values. And I will defend to the death your right to do the same. Both of our votes count equally, irrespective of the diversity of our views. It's why I love this country, and why I fought for it.

Haaaaaa! Whatever you tell yourself to get to sleep at night. The above paragraph is ashes in your mouth either because you are ignorant or you're a liar. Even the heavily edited shit describing "vote gathering" on Wikipedia utterly fails the smell test, as even that partisan crap does not dispute that it's actually activists and not voters who have possession of all these random mail-in-ballots. I call it "legalized cheating", but of course that in and of itself isn't cheating. It just removes any protections from the process, creates a vote by honor system for election integrity, and creates a system where it is not only nearly impossible to determine if there is fraud or not, but even if you could somehow prove there is fraud (by signature matching or whatever) it will be completely impossible to determine who is responsible for the fraud!

If you are FOR voter ID, then you're even stupider! Signature matching millions and millions of ballots will take months if not years! You cannot possibly hang your hat on that! What about fully electronic voting? All the fears about that are amplified a thousand times if we're talking about electronically verifying every signature!!!! That's like adding another gigantic layer of electronic cloud on-top of a gigantic cloud! FOR FUCKS SAKE!

There is NO reconciling this! If you are for voter ID you cannot possibly be for cheat-by-mail!!! The two are at the diametric opposite of free and fair vs cheating. The one you prove who you are, you only get a single vote, and then you submit a ballot to a polling place with a chain of custody and election monitors from both parties. The other there is no ID, no chain of custody, you can vote as much as you want, and it's overseen by the most partisan members of one campaign.

Most of us are veterans sweetums, you don't get to cover your fucktardness in the flag here. You're in the wrong forum if you think you can spout leftist, communist bullshit and just because you served we're gona give you a pass. It makes it ten fucking times worse. You ought to know better, and you ought to be WAY more skeptical of what you read in the media.

As for Fox News? I've heard only one fucking person in the past week bring up chain of custody. Fox News is Democrat light, and nothing more. Just because they don't walk lockstep with the MSM does not mean they're for Republicans or at all conservative. I'll grant you their opinion hosts are, but that's not their news departments, who are more center left (Not left-center-left since Shepard Smith quit).

I don't know how, because there's too much dispute over what the "facts" are, from politicians AND intelligence agencies.
There's a huge amount of information and unknowns to that story, (I've read a lot too) and my conclusion is that I really don't know who did what. My instincts tell me there was corruption all over, Democrats and Republicans.

There is no dispute of the facts. The MSM is saying that the FISA deception is no big deal, so you think it's no big deal. We said fuck the Patriot Act at the time. Secret courts run by democrats? What could go wrong?
If Trump wins it will all come out in court. If he doesn't it all going to disappear, but the media has ZERO interest in prosecuting all the Democrat criminals. They hardly reported the first felony guilty plea, but they God Dammed made Flyn's plea front page news for a month to justify the Muler probe. If you don't see what a massive smoke screen that was, and the political part B attack on Trump, then just quit posting because you're too uninformed to have an opinion.

 

[1911addict42]

Haaaaaa! Whatever you tell yourself to get to sleep at night. The above paragraph is ashes in your mouth either because you are ignorant or you're a liar. Even the heavily edited shit describing "vote gathering" on Wikipedia utterly fails the smell test, as even that partisan crap does not dispute that it's actually activists and not voters who have possession of all these random mail-in-ballots. I call it "legalized cheating", but of course that in and of itself isn't cheating. It just removes any protections from the process, creates a vote by honor system for election integrity, and creates a system where it is not only nearly impossible to determine if there is fraud or not, but even if you could somehow prove there is fraud (by signature matching or whatever) it will be completely impossible to determine who is responsible for the fraud!

If you are FOR voter ID, then you're even stupider! Signature matching millions and millions of ballots will take months if not years! You cannot possibly hang your hat on that! What about fully electronic voting? All the fears about that are amplified a thousand times if we're talking about electronically verifying every signature!!!! That's like adding another gigantic layer of electronic cloud on-top of a gigantic cloud! FOR FUCKS SAKE!

There is NO reconciling this! If you are for voter ID you cannot possibly be for cheat-by-mail!!! The two are at the diametric opposite of free and fair vs cheating. The one you prove who you are, you only get a single vote, and then you submit a ballot to a polling place with a chain of custody and election monitors from both parties. The other there is no ID, no chain of custody, you can vote as much as you want, and it's overseen by the most partisan members of one campaign.

Most of us are veterans sweetums, you don't get to cover your fucktardness in the flag here. You're in the wrong forum if you think you can spout leftist, communist bullshit and just because you served we're gona give you a pass. It makes it ten fucking times worse. You ought to know better, and you ought to be WAY more skeptical of what you read in the media.

As for Fox News? I've heard only one fucking person in the past week bring up chain of custody. Fox News is Democrat light, and nothing more. Just because they don't walk lockstep with the MSM does not mean they're for Republicans or at all conservative. I'll grant you their opinion hosts are, but that's not their news departments, who are more center left (Not left-center-left since Shepard Smith quit).


There is no dispute of the facts. The MSM is saying that the FISA deception is no big deal, so you think it's no big deal. We said fuck the Patriot Act at the time. Secret courts run by democrats? What could go wrong?
If Trump wins it will all come out in court. If he doesn't it all going to disappear, but the media has ZERO interest in prosecuting all the Democrat criminals. They hardly reported the first felony guilty plea, but they God Dammed made Flyn's plea front page news for a month to justify the Muler probe. If you don't see what a massive smoke screen that was, and the political part B attack on Trump, then just quit posting because you're too uninformed to have an opinion.

The FISA deception may have been the biggest deal of all (to me). I do hope this goes to court, I'm not sure why it hasn't already. You may very well know more about this than me, frankly, there's too much bullshit for me to have an interest in continuing to follow it. It never ends, and there's no real end result. Goes on and on and on and on...
On another note, I think you badly need to get laid

 

[Longshot231]

 

[rustyinbend]

Haaaaaa! Whatever you tell yourself to get to sleep at night. The above paragraph is ashes in your mouth either because you are ignorant or you're a liar. Even the heavily edited shit describing "vote gathering" on Wikipedia utterly fails the smell test, as even that partisan crap does not dispute that it's actually activists and not voters who have possession of all these random mail-in-ballots. I call it "legalized cheating", but of course that in and of itself isn't cheating. It just removes any protections from the process, creates a vote by honor system for election integrity, and creates a system where it is not only nearly impossible to determine if there is fraud or not, but even if you could somehow prove there is fraud (by signature matching or whatever) it will be completely impossible to determine who is responsible for the fraud!

If you are FOR voter ID, then you're even stupider! Signature matching millions and millions of ballots will take months if not years! You cannot possibly hang your hat on that! What about fully electronic voting? All the fears about that are amplified a thousand times if we're talking about electronically verifying every signature!!!! That's like adding another gigantic layer of electronic cloud on-top of a gigantic cloud! FOR FUCKS SAKE!

There is NO reconciling this! If you are for voter ID you cannot possibly be for cheat-by-mail!!! The two are at the diametric opposite of free and fair vs cheating. The one you prove who you are, you only get a single vote, and then you submit a ballot to a polling place with a chain of custody and election monitors from both parties. The other there is no ID, no chain of custody, you can vote as much as you want, and it's overseen by the most partisan members of one campaign.

Most of us are veterans sweetums, you don't get to cover your fucktardness in the flag here. You're in the wrong forum if you think you can spout leftist, communist bullshit and just because you served we're gona give you a pass. It makes it ten fucking times worse. You ought to know better, and you ought to be WAY more skeptical of what you read in the media.

As for Fox News? I've heard only one fucking person in the past week bring up chain of custody. Fox News is Democrat light, and nothing more. Just because they don't walk lockstep with the MSM does not mean they're for Republicans or at all conservative. I'll grant you their opinion hosts are, but that's not their news departments, who are more center left (Not left-center-left since Shepard Smith quit).


There is no dispute of the facts. The MSM is saying that the FISA deception is no big deal, so you think it's no big deal. We said fuck the Patriot Act at the time. Secret courts run by democrats? What could go wrong?
If Trump wins it will all come out in court. If he doesn't it all going to disappear, but the media has ZERO interest in prosecuting all the Democrat criminals. They hardly reported the first felony guilty plea, but they God Dammed made Flyn's plea front page news for a month to justify the Muler probe. If you don't see what a massive smoke screen that was, and the political part B attack on Trump, then just quit posting because you're too uninformed to have an opinion.

Have you considered anger-management classes? LOL

 

[Snuby642]

LMAO

 

[theLBC]

from 2016.

 

[winxp_man]

Its safe for me to shop at walmart yet deadly for me to vote.

If you dont see what the commies are trying to do you are part of the problem or in agreement.

Vote by mail is not absentee balloting - repeat it, understand it, dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

Even Fauci stated that voting in person is fine! And if he is saying it.... Love rubbing his recent statement in the face of idiots trying to talk mail voting because the Chinese virus! Also when a writer for the Washington Compost back in June writes about mail in voting, and what Trump is stating is false. Then to only write a month later how it’s not a good solution because of all the missed ballots, fraud and so on.... well that should tell you all you need to know one thing. Vote in person period!

These dems know their dead in the water this election and doing all the stupid evil shitty things they can to at least try to win.

 

[Fig]

The FISA deception may have been the biggest deal of all (to me). I do hope this goes to court, I'm not sure why it hasn't already. You may very well know more about this than me, frankly, there's too much bullshit for me to have an interest in continuing to follow it. It never ends, and there's no real end result. Goes on and on and on and on...
On another note, I think you badly need to get laid

You and the entire media, who have moved on and don't care what the truth is after lying to us across the board for four years, and printing whatever the left told them to print. They are absolutely complicit and accomplices in all of this, and you have responded exactly as they had hoped.

Four years of lies and crimes disappear down the memory hole. In the end what seems to separate the left from the right is that the left has no memory. You move from one thing to the next and forget what happened yesterday. It is as if there is no suck thing as hypocrisy for a leftist.

Only when faced with hypocrisy and blasphemy did the Jewish Carpenter actually get angry. Every other time he turned the other cheek and forgave, but these two things he could not abide. These two things were worthy of his anger and his wrath.

I am well sexed. I am also in my right mind, and I do not like being lied to and played for a fool. Simply because I recognize when someone is pissing down my back and endangering my Republic does not even mean I'm wound too tight. There is a difference between just being angry, and getting angry for that which merits anger. Truth be known I do believe we are past fixing this within the system. The system has been corrupted, and will only continue to get worse.

It's inevitable. Leftists cannot help themselves. Those who lament that we never do anything, but just sit and take it don't understand our enemy. They will fire on civilians. They will round up the innocent and release the criminals. They will push you till you have no choice. It is their nature. A scorpion is going to act like a scorpion.

 

[theLBC]

Even Fauci stated that voting in person is fine! And if he is saying it.... Love rubbing his recent statement in the face of idiots trying to talk mail voting because the Chinese virus! Also when a writer for the Washington Compost back in June writes how mail in voting, and what Trump is stating is false. Then to only write a month later how is a no good solution because of all the missed ballots, fraud and so on.... well that should tell you all you need to know one thing. Vote in person period!

These dems know their dead in the water this election and doing all the stupid evil shitty things they can to at least try to win.

thousands of seattle idiots gathered to claim they are afraid to be close to anyone to vote in person.

 

[Fig]

I don't think this election map is going to look like 1984 with only Wisconsin going to Fritz and Geraldine (Trump will decisively win Wisconsin), but it will probably be similar with only CA and NY and some of New England going for Joe and Kamala. It is going to be a landslide.

 

[1911addict42]

You and the entire media, who have moved on and don't care what the truth is after lying to us across the board for four years, and printing whatever the left told them to print. They are absolutely complicit and accomplices in all of this, and you have responded exactly as they had hoped.

Four years of lies and crimes disappear down the memory hole. In the end what seems to separate the left from the right is that the left has no memory. You move from one thing to the next and forget what happened yesterday. It is as if there is no suck thing as hypocrisy for a leftist.

Only when faced with hypocrisy and blasphemy did the Jewish Carpenter actually get angry. Every other time he turned the other cheek and forgave, but these two things he could not abide. These two things were worthy of his anger and his wrath.

I am well sexed. I am also in my right mind, and I do not like being lied to and played for a fool. Simply because I recognize when someone is pissing down my back and endangering my Republic does not even mean I'm wound too tight. There is a difference between just being angry, and getting angry for that which merits anger. Truth be known I do believe we are past fixing this within the system. The system has been corrupted, and will only continue to get worse.

It's inevitable. Leftists cannot help themselves. Those who lament that we never do anything, but just sit and take it don't understand our enemy. They will fire on civilians. They will round up the innocent and release the criminals. They will push you till you have no choice. It is their nature. A scorpion is going to act like a scorpion.

I haven’t forgotten or moved on, I’m just waiting for the Investigation to actually go somewhere, which I’m assuming , for obvious reasons, Trump is pushing for. Not much I can do other than be pissed off. And if I was pissed about all the things I should be pissed about, Well... it’s not worth my serenity. I value it too much.

god grant me serenity over the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

 

[John_in_WYO]

I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current former occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

Uhhhhmm, Hillary didn’t win.
FIFY. Auto-correct apparently inserted the word “current“.
You were describing her, weren’t you?

 

[rustyinbend]

god grant me serenity over the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

AMEN !!!

 

[winxp_man]

Not true. All these thing were done. All government agencies were notified of my father's death. Federal, State and Local governments were officially notified by my family lawyer.

I trust our lawyer did his job.

Maybe the lawyer was a closet lib?

 

[rustyinbend]

Uhhhhmm, Hillary didn’t win.
FIFY. Auto-correct apparently inserted the word “current“.
You were describing her, weren’t you?

I'm describing "anybody". I wasn't a Hillary fan, any more than I'm a Trump fan.
Unfortunately, the personal demeanor, ethics, traits and characteristics necessary to win a presidential election ... are antithetical to the "right person" winning.
A great example is Colin Powell.
He would have made a magnificent President, but he had no interest in the ethical compromises necessary to win.

 

[John_in_WYO]

Got ya.
Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Fig]

Yea, I'm past caring about that shit. Obama was cool and suave, and a bannana republic piece-of-shit who trashed our Republic with his commie/criminal bullshit.
Trump is and always was a pig, but in his old age he's become quite the realist and pragmatist. You retards need to love your politicians. I'm perfectly happy hating their asses and pulling the lever for them based on reality and policy rather than my feels.

Being leftists and only watching agitprop on TV, you probably didn't even know that the UAE just fully normalized diplomatic relations with Israel. I'm sure you have no idea what that means either except Orange Man bad, and Jared Kushner is going to start WWIII with his biased and anti-Arab foreign policy...

You people are so fucking stupid it's comical. Victory is defeat and defeat is victory in your fucked up leftist world.

 

[FS1]

Come on guys it only cheating when the Reps do it. With the Dems it's business as usual.

 

[rustyinbend]

I've said my piece. I'm going to use my remaining free time today to inventory ammo and clean rifles in preparation for the coming apocalypse. My thanks to those of you that engaged in a reasonable sharing of perspectives. To the rest of you ... I wish you health and prosperity irrespective of your hate and anger. Let's all do our part to vote in whatever way we are legally entitled ... and see how it all turns out. I'm ready for pretty much "anything" at this point.

 

[Fig]

Go from us in peace. May your chains rest lightly on your wrists, and may posterity forget you were our countryman.

 

[Foul Mike]

The Dems are holding up Colorado mail ballots as proof that that system works. It does not work well.

In post #91 on this thread I told of my Father in law getting a ballot in the mail and he was in fact DEAD for 6 years prior.
What does that tell you?

When he died a certified copy of his death certificate was hand delivered to the County clerk and recorder and a request made to take him off of the voter rolls.

How do I know that happened? some may ask.

Because I was the one tasked to do that and I know it was done, yet he got a ballot to vote in the next election.

Don't get me started on all of these "Motor Voter" registrations "they" did for that election where Jose and Hose B signed up but can't speak a work of English but got to vote.

When I first signed up to vote it took a Birth certificate, SSN card or another form of ID to get on there. You were vetted, it wasn't easy.

Now I guess you just sign your name at one of those tents&table things along the side of the road or at the Mall and you will get a ballot in the mail even if you used an EBT card or some such shit for identification. No proof of citizenship, zip pop nada, just vote Democrat.

When I went to vote I had to show an ID and sign the book where signature verification took place before I voted.

This whole bin of SHIT now makes me want to puke. FM

 

[winxp_man]

The Dems are holding up Colorado mail ballots as proof that that system works. It does not work well.

In post #91 on this thread I told of my Father in law getting a ballot in the mail and he was in fact DEAD for 6 years prior.
What does that tell you?

When he died a certified copy of his death certificate was hand delivered to the County clerk and recorder and a request made to take him off of the voter rolls.

How do I know that happened? some may ask.

Because I was the one tasked to do that and I know it was done, yet he got a ballot to vote in the next election.

Don't get me started on all of these "Motor Voter" registrations "they" did for that election where Jose and Hose B signed up but can't speak a work of English but got to vote.

When I first signed up to vote it took a Birth certificate, SSN card or another form of ID to get on there. You were vetted, it wasn't easy.

Now I guess you just sign your name at one of those tents&table things along the side of the road or at the Mall and you will get a ballot in the mail even if you used an EBT card or some such shit for identification. No proof of citizenship, zip pop nada, just vote Democrat.

When I went to vote I had to show an ID and sign the book where signature verification took place before I voted.

This whole bin of SHIT now makes me want to puke. FM

Couldn't agree more! TOO MANY BLIND IDIOTS!!!! Yes IDIOTS! I could careless about being civil with words!

Here is what I know personally. Have a brother that was a third in command of this granite company he worked for. Well, in said company, and like many across Commiefornia......... They had a good number if illegals working. So during the 2016 the guys that my brother knew 100% where illegals were straight up bragging about how they got to fucking vote! Yup no joke straight up voting. Here in CA illegals are issued state ID without a question.

So for people to have the audacity to come here or any other platform where chatting goes on, and type out that there is not much fraud is a pile of straight shit! If they can not get basic voting in person squared away and allow for this type of crap to go on....... ARE THEY honestly trying to tell us that mail voting will be legit???? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????

Hell, this past election (I think the 2018 for CA) it was funny how Conservatives where winning in a few districts. Then all of a sudden random mail in ballots would show up, and every single district where this went on a Dem ended up winning. Yup nothing to see here or ask questions about. Basically move along......! Damn does it piss me off that people are so damn blind to ask questions.

 

[John_in_WYO]

 

[pmclaine]

The FISA deception may have been the biggest deal of all (to me). I do hope this goes to court, I'm not sure why it hasn't already. You may very well know more about this than me, frankly, there's too much bullshit for me to have an interest in continuing to follow it. It never ends, and there's no real end result. Goes on and on and on and on...
On another note, I think you badly need to get laid

The FISA decption was just a minor tactic to forward their main strategic goal - Overturn a lawful election.

FISA deception is the work of peons.

Its just part of a bigger crime that is nothing less than treason.

They are hoping you focus on the FISA BS and come to the conclusion "Oh that Clinesmith guy was prosecuted. Glad they got to the bottom of it. see america still has Justice"

I want all the pie.

 

[pmclaine]

Couldn't agree more! TOO MANY BLIND IDIOTS!!!! Yes IDIOTS! I could careless about being civil with words!

Here is what I know personally. Have a brother that was a third in command of this granite company he worked for. Well, in said company, and like many across Commiefornia......... They had a good number if illegals working. So during the 2016 the guys that my brother knew 100% where illegals were straight up bragging about how they got to fucking vote! Yup no joke straight up voting. Here in CA illegals are issued state ID without a question.

So for people to have the audacity to come here or any other platform where chatting goes on, and type out that there is not much fraud is a pile of straight shit! If they can not get basic voting in person squared away and allow for this type of crap to go on....... ARE THEY honestly trying to tell us that mail voting will be legit???? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????

Hell, this past election (I think the 2018 for CA) it was funny how Conservatives where winning in a few districts. Then all of a sudden random mail in ballots would show up, and every single district where this went on a Dem ended up winning. Yup nothing to see here or ask questions about. Basically move along......! Damn does it piss me off that people are so damn blind to ask questions.

Have a co-worker that was dating an illegal Brazilian (the nationality not the grooming type). Another co worker sees her leaving the local school precinct on election day and he asks her "What are you doing?"

Her response "I just voted!"

anyone that thinks they are not voting is dumb.

 

[pmclaine]

I'm describing "anybody". I wasn't a Hillary fan, any more than I'm a Trump fan.
Unfortunately, the personal demeanor, ethics, traits and characteristics necessary to win a presidential election ... are antithetical to the "right person" winning.
A great example is Colin Powell.
He would have made a magnificent President, but he had no interest in the ethical compromises necessary to win.

RustyTrombone,

Colin Powell compromised his ethics at the drop of the hat.

All those Vietnam Vets that said they would resign before allowing Washington to run the on ground tactics from DC.

"Arty 6 we are taking heavy fire and have two KIA. I need a barrage danger close to my east right now!"

"Negative Ass Hanging in the Air 6 our reports are a goat herd at that 6 digit and Washington is saying No to any herd casualties. You are on your own"

 

[1911addict42]

You're repeating yourself. The Democrats and the Media are the same fucking thing. Look at every Democrat apparatchik and official who "retires" to the media when their turn at ruling you is over. The two are one and the same populated with people who believe they have a right to rule you, and that you are a fucking moron who will be given "their truth".

The two being one is where you are failing. The left can only rule free people by dividing them and sowing hatred, and we are seeing that writ large as they pull out all the stops with their BLM and ANTIFA storm troopers. The left can only rule if we give up our liberty. They know they cannot take it from us, so they divide, sow hatred, attempt to disarm us, and basically work to destroy the Republic all with the approval of their own diseased conscience because they've been taught to believe that they are enslaving America for our own good.

If you still believe that the Russians meaningfully interfered in our election I got nothing for you. They did the same ineffectual shit they always do, and that we've always ignored because it's so pathetic. The entire thing was a smoke screen to try and hide the fact that the Obama Administration was using the entire government security apparatus FBI, CIA, NSA to spy on their political enemies and sow false stories in their media to try and sink his campaign.
Technically there WAS Russian interference/influence in the election. You will not find a single piece of actual intel that says it changed a single vote. It is all a 100% lie, and clearly you are STILL buying into it even as the perpetrators are just now, four years later, being criminally charged for the deception.

I am not so stupid as to think Obama/Biden (or Hillary) will be brought to justice for all their crimes, but denying their crimes is far worse than jsut the fact they won't be prosecuted.

Check out this video, one of my favorite guys

 

[EddieNFL]

Obama removed mailboxes.

 

[Fig]

Kill the hate. I’m gonna make t-shirts and get rich.

 

[Longshot231]

Check out this video, one of my favorite guys

If they want to use violence as a tool to end the American experiment then:

1) They should not be surprised when we use violence as a tool to protect our loved ones, our homes, our livelihoods and our Constitution.
2) They should not be surprised if the violence we use is totally out of proportion to their level of violence. If they don't fight fair, why should we?
3) They should not be surprised if any of their survivors are tried, convicted and punished for their use of violence as a tool.
4) There are no do-overs and they will not get a participation trophy.

 

[Fig]

Lol. Tried? You mean like in an American court? Isn’t that what they’re attacking?
No. No trials, no courts. Wages of sin and all...

 

[E-Tool]

When Obama first ran my absentee mail ballot never even arrived when I ordered it, was sent by my friendly, conservative county court who asked me directly if I wanted one.

It was sent twice and never arrived.

USPS is obviously corrupt, I could order damn near anything on amazon and have it in a week no issues.

Removing the ability to drop mail in a box means folks without cars have to walk or are shit out of luck. Maybe they are trying to make it just more difficult enough to stop the masses from being led by the nose to cast their vote.

 

[Longshot231]

 

[XLR308]

I'm describing "anybody". I wasn't a Hillary fan, any more than I'm a Trump fan.
Unfortunately, the personal demeanor, ethics, traits and characteristics necessary to win a presidential election ... are antithetical to the "right person" winning.
A great example is Colin Powell.
He would have made a magnificent President, but he had no interest in the ethical compromises necessary to win.

What a crock of shit other than the guy your saying would have made a great president being named after were all shit comes from before it sees the light of day.
I hope the tool that started this thread has finally mustered up the strength and intelligence to pull it's head from its ass.

 

[MadDuner]

There will never be a human on this planet that is loved by all, does what’s best for all, and would be interested in taking the job.

 

[XLR308]

There will never be a human on this planet that is loved by all, does what’s best for all, and would be interested in taking the job.

I kind of thought that was Jesus but apparently your sideways leaning ass hasn't heard of the guy.
You could probably read about it a little bit if you hurry before the Demonrat hoard starts wiping all written text they don't agree with from the record.

 

[Fig]

Some people are so fucking stupid they can be lied to over and over, by the same sources that have been proven time and again to lie incessantly, and they will still believe it unquestionably if it tickles their ears and it's what they want to hear. The Washington Post and the New York Times were awarded Pulitzer Prizes for completely false Russia Collusion stories, and WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN now that they were being used by the FBI and CIA leadership through leaks to cover up their malfeasance in spying on the Trump Campaign.

These two communist publications are STILL able to manufacture false stories and have them echoed all across the media, including by Fox News, who will reprint them, as "this is a story across the nation", no matter if it's 100% manufactured. It is in this echoing of lies that the MSM has a stranglehold on all media. There are a handful of leftist media companies actually creating the news, and ten thousand that dutifully repeat it like it's fact.

This is why the ignorant and uneducated just believe it blindly. They see it reported three different places and figure it must be true, when it came from the mind of a single reporter at the NYT who wrote whatever he/she felt like regardless of the actual facts.

 

[1911addict42]

Some people are so fucking stupid they can be lied to over and over, by the same sources that have been proven time and again to lie incessantly, and they will still believe it unquestionably if it tickles their ears and it's what they want to hear. The Washington Post and the New York Times were awarded Pulitzer Prizes for completely false Russia Collusion stories, and WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN now that they were being used by the FBI and CIA leadership through leaks to cover up their malfeasance in spying on the Trump Campaign.

These two communist publications are STILL able to manufacture false stories and have them echoed all across the media, including by Fox News, who will reprint them, as "this is a story across the nation", no matter if it's 100% manufactured. It is in this echoing of lies that the MSM has a stranglehold on all media. There are a handful of leftist media companies actually creating the news, and ten thousand that dutifully repeat it like it's fact.

This is why the ignorant and uneducated just believe it blindly. They see it reported three different places and figure it must be true, when it came from the mind of a single reporter at the NYT who wrote whatever he/she felt like regardless of the actual facts.

Even though they lie, it doesn’t mean they ALWAYS lie. There were some comments that Trump made that would lead one to believe he could be supporting it.
Do you have evidence to the contrary? As I mentioned in the original post, I don’t know if it’s true, but it definitely wouldn’t surprise me, nor would I necessarily have a problem with it. If the Dems want to play dirty, so can Trump.

 

[10ring'r]

IF people can stand in line at WallyWorld, Costco, at the F'n Ice Cream stand, all while wearing a F'n mask, if required, they can stand in line to vote. They can also use the same mode of transportation they used to get to the above mentioned places. Mail in voting, has the makings of corruption. When Gov. Walker was being recalled, boxes of votes were mysteriously "found". So, yeah, it's a corrupt system. If it's a Presidential Election, the most important election in the U.S. of A., all checks and balances need to be made. I'm a proponent of.. prove who you are and prove where you live. I'm F'n crippled-up and I plan on standing in F'n line to vote, no matter how long it takes. If I can do it, others, especially younger, healthier, people, can do it also. Mac

 

[Fig]

Even though they lie, it doesn’t mean they ALWAYS lie. There were some comments that Trump made that would lead one to believe he could be supporting it.
Do you have evidence to the contrary? As I mentioned in the original post, I don’t know if it’s true, but it definitely wouldn’t surprise me, nor would I necessarily have a problem with it. If the Dems want to play dirty, so can Trump.

I can't believe you wrote that. So, what do you call someone who tells lies some of the time?

This is a total bullshit hoax, and it defies reason on it's face. It's moving from one ridiculous lie to the next without even taking a breath.

Why? Because cheat my mail is very real, and if it throws this election it will mean war. Real civil war. They're already lying about it, because it is so fucking obvious what is going on.