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tula primers... good?
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Re: tula primers... good?
I use a fair number of Wolf (been told both are made in same factory) and have had no problem with them. This is in a .45 and not a benchrest gun so can't comment on accuracy with them.
I use a fair number of Wolf (been told both are made in same factory) and have had no problem with them. This is in a .45 and not a benchrest gun so can't comment on accuracy with them.
Re: tula primers... good?
I have been using wolf for a while with good results. If they are the same you will be happy with their performance.
I have been using wolf for a while with good results. If they are the same you will be happy with their performance.
Re: tula primers... good?
I use Tula for 45ACP. I get a dud about 1/750 or so. I will often try a 2bd, 3rd, and even 4th strike...no dkubt, it's dead. Take it home, pull the bullet, and there's always been powder. They're cheap, though!
I use Tula for 45ACP. I get a dud about 1/750 or so. I will often try a 2bd, 3rd, and even 4th strike...no dkubt, it's dead. Take it home, pull the bullet, and there's always been powder. They're cheap, though!
Re: tula primers... good?
been running wolff in everything i own, other than finding a primer missing(once)or one with a flatten side in the box, the accuracy is as good as everything else i tried. with over 60,000 primers used the last 5 years, no complaints.I just wished they wouldn't tape every damn tray shut.
been running wolff in everything i own, other than finding a primer missing(once)or one with a flatten side in the box, the accuracy is as good as everything else i tried. with over 60,000 primers used the last 5 years, no complaints.I just wished they wouldn't tape every damn tray shut.
Re: tula primers... good?
I haven't ran any Tula but a few wolf not to many but those of which I have ran have given me some very decent es/sd. I tried Fed210M, Wolf LR, CCI200, CCIBR2. The Wolf came in second in the numbers right behind the Fed210M, with about 2fps difference. Both the Fed210M and Wolf LR were under 10fps ES. So yeah they're damn decent, especially for the price.
xdeano
I haven't ran any Tula but a few wolf not to many but those of which I have ran have given me some very decent es/sd. I tried Fed210M, Wolf LR, CCI200, CCIBR2. The Wolf came in second in the numbers right behind the Fed210M, with about 2fps difference. Both the Fed210M and Wolf LR were under 10fps ES. So yeah they're damn decent, especially for the price.
xdeano
Re: tula primers... good?
If there is truth to these primers being made in the same factory as Wolf primers, perhaps they are also slightly tighter fitting than the domestic brands that are so widely available here. I've been waiting two years for Wolf large rifle magnum primers to be available in preparation for the eventuality of stretched primer pockets in .300WinMag, but have not been able to find any. I am using Wolf primers in the soft .308 Federal brass, and get more loadings from it. Anyone know if the Tula primers have tight tolerances like the Wolf primers?
If there is truth to these primers being made in the same factory as Wolf primers, perhaps they are also slightly tighter fitting than the domestic brands that are so widely available here. I've been waiting two years for Wolf large rifle magnum primers to be available in preparation for the eventuality of stretched primer pockets in .300WinMag, but have not been able to find any. I am using Wolf primers in the soft .308 Federal brass, and get more loadings from it. Anyone know if the Tula primers have tight tolerances like the Wolf primers?
Re: tula primers... good?
Have had good luck with Wolf LRP. Don't seem to have any issues with them fitting in my 308 Win primer pockets, although they do occasionally have issues with the Dillon primer pickup tubes. Once in a while 1-2 per 100 will be slightly oversized and won't travel easily through the tube. Worth it for the low price and good performance, however.
Have had good luck with Wolf LRP. Don't seem to have any issues with them fitting in my 308 Win primer pockets, although they do occasionally have issues with the Dillon primer pickup tubes. Once in a while 1-2 per 100 will be slightly oversized and won't travel easily through the tube. Worth it for the low price and good performance, however.
Re: tula primers... good?
As above post, I like them because they are slightly oversized. I have a pile of FGMM 308 brass. When the primer pockets get a little loose, I can switch over to Wolf and get a couple more firings out the brass.
As above post, I like them because they are slightly oversized. I have a pile of FGMM 308 brass. When the primer pockets get a little loose, I can switch over to Wolf and get a couple more firings out the brass.
Re: tula primers... good?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As above post, I like them because they are slightly oversized. I have a pile of FGMM 308 brass. When the primer pockets get a little loose, I can switch over to Wolf and get a couple more firings out the brass. </div></div>
Huh... not a bad idea! Maybe I won't sell my spent FGMM brass after all.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As above post, I like them because they are slightly oversized. I have a pile of FGMM 308 brass. When the primer pockets get a little loose, I can switch over to Wolf and get a couple more firings out the brass. </div></div>
Huh... not a bad idea! Maybe I won't sell my spent FGMM brass after all.
Re: tula primers... good?
BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
Re: tula primers... good?
I use Wolf in a 6mm Dasher. Cut my SD in half. SD is always less than 10 and I have seen strings go as low as 2. If they work in bechrest guns they should work anywhere. I am using the LR's in my 260 now. You can't beat the small rifle primers at any price. I have not used them enough in large rifle to know for sure but I am happy so far.
I use Wolf in a 6mm Dasher. Cut my SD in half. SD is always less than 10 and I have seen strings go as low as 2. If they work in bechrest guns they should work anywhere. I am using the LR's in my 260 now. You can't beat the small rifle primers at any price. I have not used them enough in large rifle to know for sure but I am happy so far.
Re: tula primers... good?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
</div></div>
Really?
42.5gr H4350 + 142smk = 2930fps ??
Also, 50fps delta from primer alone is HUGE. Did you perform an A-B-A comparison in a short timeframe...as in 5-10 minutes?
Those numbers don't seem "right".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
</div></div>
Really?
42.5gr H4350 + 142smk = 2930fps ??
Also, 50fps delta from primer alone is HUGE. Did you perform an A-B-A comparison in a short timeframe...as in 5-10 minutes?
Those numbers don't seem "right".
Re: tula primers... good?
ill re-crono tonight, but yea... shot 5 cci then 5 tula then 5 more under 5 min
ill re-crono tonight, but yea... shot 5 cci then 5 tula then 5 more under 5 min
Re: tula primers... good?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
</div></div>
This is very unlikely and I've been using Wolf LR primers for a few years now. The Russian primers may or may not produce very slight almost undetectable loss in velocity using H4895, IMR4895, Varget, RL17 and XBR8208 powders which were what I used for velocity and consistency testing with a few different primers.
When compared with standard CCI LR and mil spec CCI LR primers I chrono'd during testing using my trusty PVM21 chrono I saw what looked like maybe a very slight loss in velocity but it was too small to verify. But what was most interesting to me was that I could get slightly higher velocity using a powder charge beyond previous pressure limits without pressure signs. These Russian primers are very consistent and so cheap that I'm pretty happy with them.
HTH!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
</div></div>
This is very unlikely and I've been using Wolf LR primers for a few years now. The Russian primers may or may not produce very slight almost undetectable loss in velocity using H4895, IMR4895, Varget, RL17 and XBR8208 powders which were what I used for velocity and consistency testing with a few different primers.
When compared with standard CCI LR and mil spec CCI LR primers I chrono'd during testing using my trusty PVM21 chrono I saw what looked like maybe a very slight loss in velocity but it was too small to verify. But what was most interesting to me was that I could get slightly higher velocity using a powder charge beyond previous pressure limits without pressure signs. These Russian primers are very consistent and so cheap that I'm pretty happy with them.
HTH!
Re: tula primers... good?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
</div></div>
Really?
42.5gr H4350 + 142smk = 2930fps ??
Also, 50fps delta from primer alone is HUGE. Did you perform an A-B-A comparison in a short timeframe...as in 5-10 minutes?
Those numbers don't seem "right". </div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, just used these last night... about 50fps slower then CCI LR
cci = 2930fps
tula = 2880fps
load was
260
42.5 h4350
142smk
</div></div>
Really?
42.5gr H4350 + 142smk = 2930fps ??
Also, 50fps delta from primer alone is HUGE. Did you perform an A-B-A comparison in a short timeframe...as in 5-10 minutes?
Those numbers don't seem "right". </div></div>
+1
Re: tula primers... good?
recronoed the tulas, 2830
had the crono to close the other day....
should be inline with my cci's now
recronoed the tulas, 2830
had the crono to close the other day....
should be inline with my cci's now
Re: tula primers... good?
Where do you guys get these Tula's? I have heard that some benchrest guys actually prefer them over anything else for large rifle, and if they are cheaper...sounds good.
I usually buy at my local Sportsman's Warehouse or Cabelas store to avoid HAZMAT charges on shipping them.
Where do you guys get these Tula's? I have heard that some benchrest guys actually prefer them over anything else for large rifle, and if they are cheaper...sounds good.
I usually buy at my local Sportsman's Warehouse or Cabelas store to avoid HAZMAT charges on shipping them.
Re: tula primers... good?
Unless you are very lucky and pay the bullet you will have to bight the hazmat fee. I combine a 5K case of primers with enough powder to whatever the maximum powder weight limit to minimize the cost the hazmat fee has on my powders and primers. Bruno's is cheapest but out of stock right now, Powder Valley and Midway have them but cost a bit more and Graf's is just over priced. Shop the powders though and look at shipping as this can make a significant difference in cost to your door. If you have some local club shooters who reload see if any of them want to go in on a few pounds of powder and primers to help share the fees and minimize shipping and hazmat fees.
HTH!
Unless you are very lucky and pay the bullet you will have to bight the hazmat fee. I combine a 5K case of primers with enough powder to whatever the maximum powder weight limit to minimize the cost the hazmat fee has on my powders and primers. Bruno's is cheapest but out of stock right now, Powder Valley and Midway have them but cost a bit more and Graf's is just over priced. Shop the powders though and look at shipping as this can make a significant difference in cost to your door. If you have some local club shooters who reload see if any of them want to go in on a few pounds of powder and primers to help share the fees and minimize shipping and hazmat fees.
HTH!
Re: tula primers... good?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">at 15$ per 1k case price, hard to pass up... any issues? </div></div>
$75 per full case? Where? The Russian primers are very very good.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">at 15$ per 1k case price, hard to pass up... any issues? </div></div>
$75 per full case? Where? The Russian primers are very very good.
Re: tula primers... good?
Just doesn't seem cost effective with the HAZMAT, unless you buy all your powder for the year along with it. Others may shoot a lot more than me though.
Just doesn't seem cost effective with the HAZMAT, unless you buy all your powder for the year along with it. Others may shoot a lot more than me though.
Re: tula primers... good?
25$ hazmat... buy at leat 1 cast of 5k and its ok, but i get 4 to 6, cases at a time for me and buddies...
grafs.com + i get dealer price...
but the 1st post is from 2/15, no longer on sale....
right now, the cheepest they have is MAGTECH
25$ hazmat... buy at leat 1 cast of 5k and its ok, but i get 4 to 6, cases at a time for me and buddies...
grafs.com + i get dealer price...
but the 1st post is from 2/15, no longer on sale....
right now, the cheepest they have is MAGTECH
Re: tula primers... good?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YAOG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">at 15$ per 1k case price, hard to pass up... any issues? </div></div>
$75 per full case? Where? The Russian primers are very very good. </div></div>
Yes, at THAT price the HAZMAT would be worth it!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YAOG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">at 15$ per 1k case price, hard to pass up... any issues? </div></div>
$75 per full case? Where? The Russian primers are very very good. </div></div>
Yes, at THAT price the HAZMAT would be worth it!
