TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

[Tom Sarver]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Karl,

Me too! I beat myself.

Tom

 

[van]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Time to train.


van

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaEzT5MusFs&NR=1

Form or pics?

I had a watermelon to share!

Should I bring another one?

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Videos were real.
No tricks, or alters.
Many saw!

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Arms, no.
Ribbon at 2400 plus should help with nads though.
Please don't show!

Glen.

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tom Sarver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Shooters,
We will be having a meeting next match. A meeting to improve things here at TVP.

My work is picking up and I need to spread out some duties for those who want to help out. Glen has been a great help as well as others. I have a plan.
I'm working on the next date now.

Tom
TVP </div></div>

Tom, how about matches on the 6th, 13th & 20th. I can't make the 27th and hate to miss one of the last shoots.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Tom will be pretty busy this week.
Next shoot may only be out to six hundred yards.
Should be fun to break out guns without bases, or scopes.
Josh can hit 600 with his .204!
Not sure if we can hear it though.
If it works out, He can have a partner shooting a .204 also.
Need more spotters working together for the call.

Break out the ar's.
Open hinge is safer than a flag.
Team of Ar's under four get bonus?
Just a thought.

 

[mscott]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Break out the ar's.
Open hinge is safer than a flag.
Team of Ar's under four get bonus?
Just a thought. </div></div>

WTF is that about? You thinking of breaking down rifle between stages? Why not go one step safer and shoot airsoft. You really need to explain your riddles a little better.

 

[srt_1]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Sorry I couldn't make this shoot either...since the layoff, my schedual has been crazy and I haven't been able to find time to get away...

 

[Killswitch Engage]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

tom,

any word on a year end match or when? max and i would like to make it over one more time this year. hope to see you all soon.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Take a chill!
I don't have a flag.
Would you consider this safe for mine?
Airsoft is like a bb gun.
We were not allowed to have.
Shoot your eye out!
We were given real ones.
No blind limbs on our tree.

Two semis together, don't need five min.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Do you remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCAdBz6BLmM

 

[mscott]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Take a chill!
I don't have a flag.
Would you consider this safe for mine?
Airsoft is like a bb gun.
We were not allowed to have.
Shoot your eye out!
We were given real ones.
No blind limbs on our tree.

Two semis together, don't need five min. </div></div>
No need to chill, I'm just having fun.
You can make a flag easily out of a zip tie or I have a couple spares I use in multigun you could borrow.

You should change your name here from TCA to the "Riddler"

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Cool by me.
Tom wanted to see his arms big.
I kinda got lost and found that one!
Hate spinach myself.
Getting ready to polish range brass.
Ar Racks with a light bump.
Wannabe Airsoft Rambos spend Damn near much as we do.

Do we want these kids too?

Thank's for the flag, I might need.

RIDDLER.

 

[Firemarshall27]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

HaHa, Riddler I like
Fits well
I needs a front sight for my AR
And Ammo!

FM

 

[mscott]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Any shooting planned for this weekend?

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Spoke to Tom last night and today and evidently he is doing training until Thurs. Pretty sure there are no matches this weekend. Its also labor day weekend so many people will have bbq plans or plans with their families.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

If you guy's want to shoot this weekend, and It's cool with Tom, let me know.
I don't have a spare front sight.
Brick of Federal 556.
Out of the box JL Malvo special.
Course should be 600 and under.

Woodbury Outfitters has moved as of Saturday morning!
Old Big Bear/ Walmart stores.
Near Beuhler's
Downtown, and new phone number.
Just past Coshocton Tires and on the same side

 

[RODENT]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firemarshall27</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I needs a front sight for my AR...

FM </div></div>

I have one.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Should I grab the brick of .556?
I can be there in the mornings.
Sat and Sun.

 

[Firemarshall27]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RODENT</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firemarshall27</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I needs a front sight for my AR...

FM </div></div>

I have one.</div></div>

Cool whats you got?

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

If I get a package tomorrow or Saturday, I'd like to go out Sunday morning to get some dope on the regular course.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

I spoke with Tom on Tues/Wed and Jon and I are planning on going out Sunday to shoot from the benches for awhile as well as try and shoot from the course a bit later.
THIS IS NOT A MATCH!. This will be normal range time so it will be bench shooting and also probably some shooting from the stations if everyone can agree on times etc.
For anyone that gets approval from Tom to shoot, we all need to make sure that we respect each others goals for the day. (i.e. shooting from benches for drops, shooting paper, shooting from positions, etc. It will aggravate the shit out of people if they drive 2+hrs and cant accomplish what they want for the day because they thought they would be able to do one thing and then cant once they get there.

!!!Make sure you get approval from Tom!!!

And even though this is not a match, make sure to have your bolts out of your rifles until you are at a bench.

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Do you know if all the steel on the 1000 yd range has been put back yet?

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you know if all the steel on the 1000 yd range has been put back yet? </div></div>
That information I dont have... I can try and find out for you or you can give Tom a call.

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

That would be great. I would like to get dope at know ranges and the last time I was out, there was steel at 600 yds and that was it.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be great. I would like to get dope at know ranges and the last time I was out, there was steel at 600 yds and that was it. </div></div>

I sent him a text and he said it wasnt up now. I asked if it would be up by Sunday. I will let you know what he says.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

deleted. double post.

 

[mscott]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

I'd be up for some shooting on Sunday as well.

 

[van]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flounderv2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be great. I would like to get dope at know ranges and the last time I was out, there was steel at 600 yds and that was it. </div></div>

I sent him a text and he said it wasnt up now. I asked if it would be up by Sunday. I will let you know what he says. </div></div>

I know hearing the steel is a good sound.But to get accurate drops we need to use paper targets to get a precise measurement per yardage.The steel targets are too big for an accurate drop chart.With the size of the targets,it could constitute a good miss.

Just a thought.

van

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: van</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flounderv2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be great. I would like to get dope at know ranges and the last time I was out, there was steel at 600 yds and that was it. </div></div>

I sent him a text and he said it wasnt up now. I asked if it would be up by Sunday. I will let you know what he says. </div></div>

I know hearing the steel is a good sound.But to get accurate drops we need to use paper targets to get a precise measurement per yardage.The steel targets are too big for an accurate drop chart.With the size of the targets,it could constitute a good miss.

Just a thought.

van </div></div>

IF and I say IF, we had <span style="font-weight: bold">freshly painted </span>white steel targets and we could identify our hits on each. I unserstand what you're saying about precision but, it would serve double duty to be abe to shoot some steel at known distances 300, 400, 500, 600, 800 & 1000 to get a drop chart. 600 & 1000 is nice but 6 points would be better.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

use JBM for an estimated drop. I know if I shoot a 8" long piece of steel and aim center and hit 1" from bottom, I know what my adjustment is.. And if all else fails, I just remove my pants and shoot again.

 

[260shtr]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

flounderv2

How is the Duck tape holding out? LOL!

Man knows his priorities.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 260 shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">flounderv2

How is the Duck tape holding out? LOL!

Man knows his priorities. </div></div>

Actually re-taped a pair yesterday after they came out of the dryer.. Tomorrow Im goign to be forced to buy some patches at Walmart. The only problem is I need about 6 patches that are as long as the entire leg of the jeans. hahaha.. Gotta save up for gun parts somehow.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flounderv2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">use JBM for an estimated drop. I know if I shoot a 8" long piece of steel and aim center and hit 1" from bottom, I know what my adjustment is.. And if all else fails, I just remove my pants and shoot again. </div></div>

One inch barrel and 8 inch shot?

For those that may have missed.
Tom has been saying for the last couple shoots that for a true velocity,
we need to shoot 600 and 1000.
Shoot the birds, that's what they are there for.
Adjust velocity in computer to match MOA difference at those ranges.
Good to go for the rest!
Makes more sense to me than getting a speed only 10 feet from the muzzle!
We don't have any targets that close!

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Why not just call them shorts?
For what you spend on duck tape, you could by a pair of jeans!
(Shameless plug) TSC in Coshocton sells both.
I bought clothes for a buddies, daughters wedding there.
New Levis and Carhart T-shirt with writing on the back.
Best transformer was monkey suit to bdu jams.
I was overdressed.

 

[mscott]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

I would agree that paper is best, but the clay pigeons are more than good enough for adjusting data. Smacking steel is just plain fun.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Whatever you guys want to do.
Sounds like we need to work together on this.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TCA4570</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flounderv2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">use JBM for an estimated drop. I know if I shoot a 8" long piece of steel and aim center and hit 1" from bottom, I know what my adjustment is.. And if all else fails, I just remove my pants and shoot again. </div></div>

One inch barrel and 8 inch shot?

For those that may have missed.
Tom has been saying for the last couple shoots that for a true velocity,
we need to shoot 600 and 1000.
Shoot the birds, that's what they are there for.
Adjust velocity in computer to match MOA difference at those ranges.
Good to go for the rest!
Makes more sense to me than getting a speed only 10 feet from the muzzle!
We don't have any targets that close!
</div></div>

The reason Tom is saying this is because IBS matches are at 600 and 1000 therefore by reverse calculating your velocity by the drop at those distances, you then know the velocity of the bullet for that exact distance. Once you know your drop at those distances, does velocity really matter, (not to me). The reason you crono at 10-15 feet is so that you can get the velocity closest to muzzle exit without percussion problems with a crono. You then use that velocity and the Ballistic coeefficient of the bullet and using a ballistics calculator, you can calculate your estimated drop for different ranges. The problem with most manufacturer published BC's is that they generally publish the G1 BC and bullets will actually have different BC's depending on the velocity they are travling. The faster they go, the better the BC and the less drop. As the bullet slows the futher it gets from the rifle, the BC will change and therefore the reason that ballistic calculators are estimates. Now, with that being said, if you use the G7 BC of the bullet for your calculations, you will find that the ballistic calcs that can use G7 will give you a much more accurate calculated drop at further ranges since the calculation when using the G7 BC is not affected as much by the velocity changes a bullet encounters during flight. When using G1 and muzzle velocity as your calc, it has much more of an impact on the esitmated drops as the bullet starts to slow down the further it travels.

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Don't change the subject!
We thought you were going to explain a one inch barrel.

Already said that with less writting.

Just don't try to run over any Hippes on your way.

 

[KQguy]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flounderv2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 260 shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">flounderv2

How is the Duck tape holding out? LOL!

Man knows his priorities. </div></div>

Actually re-taped a pair yesterday after they came out of the dryer.. Tomorrow Im goign to be forced to buy some patches at Walmart. The only problem is I need about 6 patches that are as long as the entire leg of the jeans. hahaha.. Gotta save up for gun parts somehow. </div></div>Sounds like it's time to just give up and cut the legs off and make shorts out of them.Jean shorts are the shit!LOL

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KQguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like it's time to just give up and cut the legs off and make shorts out of them.Jean shorts are the shit!LOL </div></div>

Sell em to ya at a good price. After all, these Jorts would be "Custom"

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Do you want to be Tacticool, or know where the targets are?

Obiviously function is more than form to flounder.

Bring the black duct tape.

It makes a difference.

Hickory Dickory Dock.

ADC

 

[260shtr]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

ADC ROCKS!!

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Glenn, Im not gonna lie, I have no idea what the hell you are talking about right now. Granted Im about 15 beers deep but I just dont get what your trying to say. I really hope youre not trying to insinuate that I am "tacticool"

 

[TCA4570]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

So was I!
see you this weekend.

 

[gibar]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

I've got to agree with hottie. While all other arguements are valid about getting sight settings, I believe that getting basic settings on known distances IS just as valuable. I too would like to hava a "day" at the range but without the steel set at the known distances it is not wothwhile. Hopefully the situation can be resolved.

 

[van]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Paper-no paper makes no difference to me.

I cannot make it.Had different plans,just found out though.

I'll get my actual settings at known distances sometime.

Have Fun

van

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

Going to the range tonight to work on a new load. I'd like to try it out on Sunday. Do I need to call Tom? I will most likely be coming with one other guy. Who is actually going to be there, whats the "schedule of events" and what time?

 

[flounderv2]

Re: TVP Team Match Aug 23rd 10:00 a.m.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Going to the range tonight to work on a new load. I'd like to try it out on Sunday. Do I need to call Tom? I will most likely be coming with one other guy. Who is actually going to be there, whats the "schedule of events" and what time? </div></div>

You should probably call Tom. Schedule of events, at least mine, are to arrive around 10am and shoot from the benches for awhile. If people can get in agreement maybe some shooting from positions but it will need to be coordinated and agreed upon by everyone since you cant shoot benches and positions at the same time unless its position 1.