Ukraine war Bullshit.
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Looks like 3 were inside , 4th probably jumped ship and is somewhere in that mud they excavated.
''Three of the four U.S. Army soldiers who went missing during a training mission near Pabradė, Lithuania, last week were found dead on Monday, but the search is ongoing for the fourth soldier, the Army said.''
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US military confirms 3 of 4 US soldiers missing in Lithuania dead, after days of conflicting reports
The identities of the soldiers have not been released yet.
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Key Takeaways From NYT's Secret History Detailing US 'Shocking' Involvement In Ukraine War | ZeroHedge
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"Shocking".........Key Takeaways From NYT's Secret History Detailing US 'Shocking' Involvement In Ukraine War | ZeroHedge
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He says "even The Hill" as if he is implying it's a leftist outlet but The Hill has been consistently scored as an outlet with a VERY low bias rating, neither right or left.
perhaps. but i consider them left of center and part of the ukraine disinformation machine.
they did let john solomon tell some ugly truths about ukraine, but then we know what happened after that...
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Si.
Left of center but not left leaning or left looney, it's like an average overall. A lot of their content is fairly moderate.
None of them tell the absolute truth 100% of the time so the facts they get wrong will be skewed in one direction or the other. Even Fox which is right rabid publishes quite a bit of moderate content and will occasionally publish something with a far left tone to it. Breitbart is an example of an outlet that is biased so far to the right hardly anything they publish has even a moderate tone and half of it is just fantasy passed off as "news".
The more right of center a person's views are the more left The Hill will appear to be. When measuring bias it's important to attempt to take one's own bias into account.
Wonder what will result?
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liberals Caterwauling..............Wonder what will result?
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Note Meduza is USAID funded outlet , but this is still worth a read.
''At the beginning of the war, Ukraine had no shortage of soldiers — a huge number of men went to the front voluntarily. But many have died, and far fewer are now willing to fight. At first, TRC patrols simply handed out draft notices on the streets while the state tightened penalties for draft evasion. When this proved insufficient, the authorities began using force. A patrol stops you, shoves you into a van, and takes you to a military enlistment office for a medical examination — where everyone is declared fit for service. This process has been dubbed “busification” — maybe the second most widely used word in Ukraine today. Later that evening or the next morning, you’re sent to boot camp: a site in the forest with army tents or dugouts, strict security lockdown, and basic military training.
A year and a half ago, people were already whispering about busification, but the threat had yet to arrive here. TRC patrols swept through villages and small towns while Kyiv still enjoyed the relaxed life of a capital city. Everything has changed since then. The Internet is now flooded with videos like this one showing TRC officers beating men when they try to escape, refuse medical exams, or resist being sent to boot camp.
A man sprints down the street, zigzagging like a rabbit, with soldiers in hot pursuit. Men with bloodied faces. Men jumping out of moving vans. On Ukrainian social media, these scenes are now commonplace. The government has promised to intervene but does nothing. Meanwhile, men have started dying at army enlistment offices. Several have been killed by the TRC. It may seem insignificant compared to the number of people dying at the front and under Russian bombardment, but these incidents have deeply demoralized the Ukrainian public.''
Quote of the day
''When I ask Danylo if he’s afraid of being prosecuted for desertion, he says, “Fuck it. I’d rather do time than get killed because some idiot gave a bullshit order.” Evidently, after experiencing combat, the threat of a criminal charge seems laughable.
I ask about his family’s reaction:
My mom’s in goddamn Russia. We talk on the phone. She knows I went AWOL. She worries, of course, but she’s a vatnik [invasion supporter], so we don’t get into that stuff. I tried talking to her at first, but she just shrugged and said, “I don’t follow politics.” You know — typical Russki stuff. And she’s still working her shift at the Uralvagonzavod factory, cranking out tanks.
The image stays with me: a mom who worries about her son while building the tanks that will hunt him.
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''At the beginning of the war, Ukraine had no shortage of soldiers — a huge number of men went to the front voluntarily. But many have died, and far fewer are now willing to fight. At first, TRC patrols simply handed out draft notices on the streets while the state tightened penalties for draft evasion. When this proved insufficient, the authorities began using force. A patrol stops you, shoves you into a van, and takes you to a military enlistment office for a medical examination — where everyone is declared fit for service. This process has been dubbed “busification” — maybe the second most widely used word in Ukraine today. Later that evening or the next morning, you’re sent to boot camp: a site in the forest with army tents or dugouts, strict security lockdown, and basic military training.
A year and a half ago, people were already whispering about busification, but the threat had yet to arrive here. TRC patrols swept through villages and small towns while Kyiv still enjoyed the relaxed life of a capital city. Everything has changed since then. The Internet is now flooded with videos like this one showing TRC officers beating men when they try to escape, refuse medical exams, or resist being sent to boot camp.
A man sprints down the street, zigzagging like a rabbit, with soldiers in hot pursuit. Men with bloodied faces. Men jumping out of moving vans. On Ukrainian social media, these scenes are now commonplace. The government has promised to intervene but does nothing. Meanwhile, men have started dying at army enlistment offices. Several have been killed by the TRC. It may seem insignificant compared to the number of people dying at the front and under Russian bombardment, but these incidents have deeply demoralized the Ukrainian public.''
Quote of the day
''When I ask Danylo if he’s afraid of being prosecuted for desertion, he says, “Fuck it. I’d rather do time than get killed because some idiot gave a bullshit order.” Evidently, after experiencing combat, the threat of a criminal charge seems laughable.
I ask about his family’s reaction:
My mom’s in goddamn Russia. We talk on the phone. She knows I went AWOL. She worries, of course, but she’s a vatnik [invasion supporter], so we don’t get into that stuff. I tried talking to her at first, but she just shrugged and said, “I don’t follow politics.” You know — typical Russki stuff. And she’s still working her shift at the Uralvagonzavod factory, cranking out tanks.
The image stays with me: a mom who worries about her son while building the tanks that will hunt him.
A report by journalist Shura Burtin on the growing war weariness among Ukrainians
Russia and Ukraine have been at full-scale war for more than three years. Throughout this time, the Ukrainians have mounted a fierce resistance to Russia’s aggression, but their strength appears to be waning. Shura Burtin, a journalist from the Swiss publication Reportagen, spent two months in...
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^ yeah, i have seen quite a few vids of guys being snatched up off the street. i posted a couple, like the one that was walking his dog.
i can see why they are using mostly unmarked vans for this now, since the population is wary and on the look out (if they are smart).
supposedly, some are taken to the front with no training. perhaps too much risk of escape.
i can see why they are using mostly unmarked vans for this now, since the population is wary and on the look out (if they are smart).
supposedly, some are taken to the front with no training. perhaps too much risk of escape.
The US had its share of controversy during periods of the draft for decades along with Project 100K the moron corps a national disgrace .
My mother being a teenager during ww2 once told me in the 1960's ".....and don't bring home any japanese women......" . She also confided to me in the 90's that she would have taken me to canada if i got drafted for vietnam , my first wife was gonna pack my bags for vietnam.......gadda love moms she would not sign my enlistment papers either at 17 .
No I mean it's a very convenient and touching story, a mom who worries about her son while building the tanks that will hunt him.
Probably just lies like a lot of what journalists write.
Its Ukrainian interviewing Ukrainans.take your time to read it trough , its quite a colection of stories,Given there is not much upside to just making shit up i would not be supprised if this is true . To a large degree while its a proxy war ,its also a civil war and in those folks from same familes end up on opposing sides with considerable frequency. Besides couple million Ukrainians live and work in Russia since ever.
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