I'm not being malicious. I'm not the one saying BDC users make unethical shots or need to shop at stupidshooter.com. I dont lump anyone into a "BDC user" category, and assume they are incapable of using anything else.
What you see as ignorant or ill-informed BDC users, i simply see as guys who havent received training or better education at using more precise and subsequently more complicated systems. The basic BDC is as I mentioned, a reticle on training wheels.
I defend it because it has its place. Some people dont want to invest the time in to something more complicated. For the guy who just hunts, it's a great choice. Far better than the basic duplex I hunted with for 20 years. A basic BDC provides the means to make accurate shots at greater distances than the old "hold on the top of his back" method. And for 3 Gun competitions, which by the way, that's what I use it for, it cant be beat. Its fast and easy. All I have to remember is the yardage each line correlates with and hold accordingly. No dope to check or turrets to dial. Fast and easy. I can transition quickly and smoothly through a 3 Gun course of fire with multiple targets at multiple ranges without ever breaking cheek weld.
My PRS competition rifles have the H59 and I have the SCR in my hunting rifles.
I'm not making any claims that it's the end all reticle. It's not, its basic. But basic has a place, and understanding how easy they are to use with any rifle and dispelling the whole ".223/.308" reticle myth perpetrated on us is the key to getting the most out of the reticle. And even educating those guys using it and making them better shooters.
But it's still the exact same system using the exact same methods. It's just a hold reticle with less subtensions to make it easy to use. Once you know the hold for any given rifle, it's super simple.
Thanks-you expressed my sentiment much clearer than I had the patience to after working a 14hr day of storm response while typing on my phone.
Subtensions are subtensions. Back when the biggest reticle arguments were “are oval dots better than round dots”, and no one had matching turrets, people still applied known ballistic drop to what they had.
Remember when dialing for say, 400yds gave one the ability to have 100yd aiming point at the top of a duplex, and 900 at the bottom?
Sure I’ve seen people in the field that have no business hunting, ones that have no knowledge and ethics, but I’ve also seen people show up to competitions with $10k in “kit” and pack up and leave because they thought their investment would do the job for them.
The OP asked about a 223 BDC’s ability to be utilized on a 308 SCAR inside 300yds. The resulting conversation showed him it can be highly effective with a little application of knowledge.
The Nikon whose reticle I posted came in on a trade and is reliable, repeatable and tracks well. It will serve fine on my current budget on my hunting gun.
The USO RWF 3 Gun I posted was a custom build while I shot for USO built on a 1-8 to showcase the tech on my 308 for hunting thick areas that also may include longer medium range shots.
Neither is my choice for precision, but both are deadly when game appears and only presents a quick educated estimate of range before the shot is lost.
To say a tool has no job because it’s not one’s choice for their job in a blanket statement full of judgements and assumptions helps no one.
Now I remember why I take years long hiatuses from engaging here.