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Wife ordered some stuff for Christmas and USPS said it was delivered. It wasn't. Several days go by and numerous calls to the office then finally they confirmed it was dropped off to the wrong house and that they sent the delivery person to try to retrieve it. Last night come home to an opened box on the porch.

Whoever got the package opened it, tore the product packaging to shreds, then decided they didn't want it and we got it back. Postal is acting like this is completely fine. Not sure if anything was taken out of our package or not.
 

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Don't get me started! I'm waiting on an item shipped from Washington IL on 12/2. Tracking shows its supposed to have been delivered 12/5. been sitting at the post office there since then. USPS and their tracking system suuuucks.
 
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I had a rifle that took over two weeks to go from Wyoming to Idaho via Priority Mail. My brother sent a barrel out of a CZ pistol to me Priority Mail from Boise, Idaho to Wyoming. It showed up 4 months later. I just sent a slide to Cajun Gun Works. CGW sent me e-mails on two occasions advising me the slide hadn't arrived. Tracking showed it spent 4 days in Denver, and another five days in Louisiana. It's Fed Ex for me from now on, even though it's 40 miles round trip to the nearest Fed Ex center.
 
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I'm currently waiting on an Atlas bipod to show up to me in Wyoming. It shipped last Monday from Wichita, made it to Denver and instead of heading to Cheyenne it was thrown on a truck to Champaign, Illinois. Came back through Omaha, back in Denver now and will have to see if it decides to travel half way across the country again.

And FedEx Priority is good, but Ground is fucking worthless. Those are all independently contracted delivery outfits that pay their employees shit, give them shitty trucks that aren't road worthy, and insanely overload their workloads this time of year. Fuck them too.

If I have the option of choosing, I opt for UPS every single time.
 
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We live in a rural area and generally have good delivery.......now.
There was a period of a couple weeks when we weren't getting any mail or packages. Driveway is about 400 yards long with mailbox up at the road, and nothing in either. I stopped at the Post Office one Saturday and asked for our mail, then asked what the problem was. Woman told me that my mailbox was probably blocked, or my driveway wasn't plowed. Without getting too worked up, I contested that statement and told her that I clear both the driveway and the mailbox with my tractor, so I know they're clear. She objected saying that the mailbox needs to be accessible, then threw out some numbers and dimensions for the definition of "clear", and I told her that the plow goes under the box, so it easily meets those specs. It wasn't very contentious, but it was clear that I wasn't happy. She commented that we do get a lot of packages, and that they'd recheck it that day. They knew who I was, and where I lived, and it's never been a problem since.
Now that said, I'm sure they're telling their version where I had to be schooled on how clear the mailbox and the driveway need to be. I've noticed that if there are no tire tracks in the snow, they won't come down, but if I have driven it once or twice, they'll drive down.
I think there are only 4 or 5 people working at this location, and we're all on good terms now, but I think if I didn't go and speak up, nothing would have changed.
 
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FWIW I have sold and sell many items on ebay. I have a USPS account and print my own labels . Make good money from that as the discounts I get are pretty good. The labels I print are on standard copy paper and I always clear tape over the entire label . USPS will state not to tape over labels but my postmaster said it's okay, and I never had one get screwed up.
These come with a barcode also.
While ebay is not a good place for, or even a possible option for most firearm related items, I think the label is a big factor . I would suggest a person use a printed label if they can, maybe through a connection at work if available , when mailing something.
 
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Can I play too?

September 22, 2024 9:47 pm - Postage on the custom 19" x 9" x 5", ~ 7 lb box will be $18 USPS Ground Advantage It contained a US Military clarinet for my military collection. Note the size of the box.

September 24, 2024, 12:31 pm - USPS in possession of item - PATAGONIA, AZ 85624

September 24, 2024, 2:10 pm - Departed Post Office - PATAGONIA, AZ 85624

September 24, 2024, 7:57 pm - Arrived at USPS Regional Origin Facility - TUCSON AZ DISTRIBUTION CENTER

September 24, 2024 9:03 pm - USPS tracking #: 9534610450924268325484 Expect it Friday 09/27/24.

September 25, 2024, 3:46 am - Departed USPS Regional Facility - TUCSON AZ DISTRIBUTION CENTER

September 27, 2024 9:15 pm - The status went from "delivered no later than 9:00 PM 27 November" to "Your package is moving within the USPS network and is on track to be delivered to its final destination. It is currently in transit to the next facility."

Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:23 pm I see that it's "in transit, arriving late" at the moment.

September 29, 2024 In Transit to Next Facility

November 08, 2024 8:53 pm - I sent a "Missing Mail Search Request" on October 23, at 9:16 AM.

November 22, 2024 5:24 am - The latest from the US Postal Service - after I went to visit the Postmistress at the Post Office, when I got home from Hospice in Texas with my mom. She died November 4.

“Thank you for using USPS.com. The US Postal Service® received the search request you submitted and it's being processed. Your package has not yet been recovered, but every effort is being made to locate your item(s). Search Request Details: We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience.”

The first time my search request was even acknowledged.

A search has been initiated on your item as of 9:16 am on October 23, 2024. The Missing Mail Search Request ID for your item is MRC 24 1927 1387. Status – Alert Class of Mail - First-Class Mail® Special Services - Insured Mail This tracking number is not eligible for an inquiry. The tracking number entered is associated with an item shipped over 60 days ago.



The sender refunded the money for the purchase. I am less interested in the money than I am in the US Military clarinet for my collection. Does anyone else know where I can get a US Property marked clarinet with carrying case?
 
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Had several pieces of mail either sent to me or I sent them to someone else. For example a Priority Mail envelope sent to me took seven days. Sent a first class envelope and it took 8 days to get to the destination. They are getting worse every day. Good luck to all mailing Christmas presents.
 
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GUN NUT in IA said:
Can I play too?

September 22, 2024 9:47 pm - Postage on the custom 19" x 9" x 5", ~ 7 lb box will be $18 USPS Ground Advantage It contained a US Military clarinet for my military collection. Note the size of the box.

September 24, 2024, 12:31 pm - USPS in possession of item - PATAGONIA, AZ 85624

September 24, 2024, 2:10 pm - Departed Post Office - PATAGONIA, AZ 85624

September 24, 2024, 7:57 pm - Arrived at USPS Regional Origin Facility - TUCSON AZ DISTRIBUTION CENTER

September 24, 2024 9:03 pm - USPS tracking #: 9534610450924268325484 Expect it Friday 09/27/24.

September 25, 2024, 3:46 am - Departed USPS Regional Facility - TUCSON AZ DISTRIBUTION CENTER

September 27, 2024 9:15 pm - The status went from "delivered no later than 9:00 PM 27 November" to "Your package is moving within the USPS network and is on track to be delivered to its final destination. It is currently in transit to the next facility."

Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:23 pm I see that it's "in transit, arriving late" at the moment.

September 29, 2024 In Transit to Next Facility

November 08, 2024 8:53 pm - I sent a "Missing Mail Search Request" on October 23, at 9:16 AM.

November 22, 2024 5:24 am - The latest from the US Postal Service - after I went to visit the Postmistress at the Post Office, when I got home from Hospice in Texas with my mom. She died November 4.

“Thank you for using USPS.com. The US Postal Service® received the search request you submitted and it's being processed. Your package has not yet been recovered, but every effort is being made to locate your item(s). Search Request Details: We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience.”

The first time my search request was even acknowledged.

A search has been initiated on your item as of 9:16 am on October 23, 2024. The Missing Mail Search Request ID for your item is MRC 24 1927 1387. Status – Alert Class of Mail - First-Class Mail® Special Services - Insured Mail This tracking number is not eligible for an inquiry. The tracking number entered is associated with an item shipped over 60 days ago.



The sender refunded the money for the purchase. I am less interested in the money than I am in the US Military clarinet for my collection. Does anyone else know where I can get a US Property marked clarinet with carrying case?
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Jut a quick search on ebay came up with this -
www.ebay.com

VINTAGE UNIBODY ARTIST PENZEL MUELLER CLARINET US MILITARY MARK METAL CLARINET | eBay

And accumulating!
www.ebay.com

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Ankeny said:
I had a rifle that took over two weeks to go from Wyoming to Idaho via Priority Mail. My brother sent a barrel out of a CZ pistol to me Priority Mail from Boise, Idaho to Wyoming. It showed up 4 months later. I just sent a slide to Cajun Gun Works. CGW sent me e-mails on two occasions advising me the slide hadn't arrived. Tracking showed it spent 4 days in Denver, and another five days in Louisiana. It's Fed Ex for me from now on, even though it's 40 miles round trip to the nearest Fed Ex center.
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Even Fukx fucks up a lot.
 
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Ankeny said:
I had a rifle that took over two weeks to go from Wyoming to Idaho via Priority Mail. My brother sent a barrel out of a CZ pistol to me Priority Mail from Boise, Idaho to Wyoming. It showed up 4 months later. I just sent a slide to Cajun Gun Works. CGW sent me e-mails on two occasions advising me the slide hadn't arrived. Tracking showed it spent 4 days in Denver, and another five days in Louisiana. It's Fed Ex for me from now on, even though it's 40 miles round trip to the nearest Fed Ex center.
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Locally in central La Fedex is the absolute sorriest of the lot.
 
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hlee said:
Choosing shipping is like ordering a shit sandwich, where the only options are the choice of bread.
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I ship my products for a living. That sums it up perfectly. 🤠 Shipping is a freakin scam where if THEY screw up YOU have to provide the insurance. Imagine if Uber tried to charge insurance that their driver won’t “mangle you” on the way. If you don’t buy that insurance you are on your own if the driver rear ends someone.

That said, I use USPS almost exclusively for outbound and have had insanely good luck.

I do follow best practices.

  1. I packed so it can go out of a 2nd story window onto concrete without damage. That is my mindset.
  2. All labels clear USPS’s address verification and get a “zip+”. THIS IS KEY.
  3. If there is an issue with address verification I get the customer on the phone. You’d be surprised how many knuckle-draggers don’t know that just because the package comes to the door via UPS or FedEx doesn’t mean US Postal is going do that. That package goes to where your usps bills and letters go.
  4. In my 24+ years of shipping I have learned that one of the things that will screw up your package transit the quickest is a damaged or defected label. Get that label on securely make sure it’s printed clearly and tape over it. Careful though, I have run into one RMA label that turned black when I taped over it, not sure what the issue was there.
  5. Tape! Tape is cheap! Buy good tape and use a lot of it! Especially if using USPS packaging. A lot of rough house can be mitigated by some well placed tape.
 
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I shipped some smoke detectors to my sister. From PO in Alexandria it went to regional in Dulles, Virginia. Then it went to Ft. Worth, TX. GREAT! Then it went to Aurora, CO; and on to Denver. Huh?

Then it went to Memphis, TN. That's when they took a few days to find a slow mule to Baton Rouge, LA. And a couple days to local PO and on to my sister.
 
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I had sent a thumb drive with a video on it to my HR rep at one of my tutoring gigs. I sent it "Parcel Select" from my house to her office in Tampa, itself. Just one step below "Priority Mail." I figured 2 days max as it was only going 20 miles away, and parcel select did have tracking.

It took 20 days! :mad: It was shipped all the way from my house to LAX and back, before it got delivered. I guess it was just sent in a bulk of pkgs that were going that way for sorting, as opposed to being recognized as only going like 15-20 miles away from my house. It reminded me of shipping something via "Media Mail." (takes forever and you can't track it). Perhaps, I should have sent it "Priority Mail." Anyway,,,

Furthermore, I don't usually have a problem with "deliveries" for me when it comes to USPS. The carrier knows where I live. Where I usually have difficulties is with UPS, Fedex and/or Amazon. They'll not know how to associate my house with the street number they see on the pkg. So, I track the deliveries on-line and when I see the truck is 1 stop away, I'll go outside and wait for it and make sure they deliver to my house. Sometimes, they'll literally walk by me to the next house, not realizing they're going to the wrong house. I have to remind them... "OVER HERE, PLEASE!"

It gets their attention.
 
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Around here Fedex is worse that usps. Our delivery guys like to mark packages "delivered" and then not deliver them for a other 4 or 5 days. Or, they decide to be lazy and mark them "no recipient available" without actually stopping to deliver. I have security cameras abd can verify this bullshit.....complain to cs....no one gives a crap. I have been waiting on 2 new tires for 3 weeks even though I paid for 3 day shipping.
 
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I wasn’t exactly anti usps until they ended up with the contract for Amazon deliveries to us more remote areas. My wife has had multiple items get marked at the local post office as “customer requested to pick up at the post office” which is a flat lie. We never requested any such thing. The idea behind ordering online is that it would be delivered to our rural address without having to drive to town to the post office. Someone mentioned FedEx, but at least around here those bozos are worse than usps. The package gets stuck in the warehouse 60+ miles and no one at FedEx can seem to find where it is to get it to us. More than once the packages just end up lost and a new item gets shipped from the retailer. I’m sure ups has their fair share of screw ups too, but so far we haven’t really had issues with them
 
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Who has ever had an actual repaid claim go through? We used to ship a lot of things. One time we had a box just get wrecked. As in they ran it over several times. No saving that. We had pictures of it packaged because It was pretty fragile and this customer was a Karen. Had it ensured for twice it's value. Despite all that, and months worth of nothing, we gave up. ups stopped getting business for a while. Talking to other business owners, they said they same thing... insurance claimes never got paid.
 
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bdubmkg said:
Who has ever had an actual repaid claim go through? We used to ship a lot of things. One time we had a box just get wrecked. As in they ran it over several times. No saving that. We had pictures of it packaged because It was pretty fragile and this customer was a Karen. Had it ensured for twice it's value. Despite all that, and months worth of nothing, we gave up. ups stopped getting business for a while. Talking to other business owners, they said they same thing... insurance claimes never got paid.
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UPS sucks on insurance claims. Better have the right size box , right packing material and whatever else they can find to deny a claim.
 
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Ask @FJBPrecision how the priority mail envelope I sent him went, mailed sometime in June, he notified me funds hadn't arrived, after I paid via electronic method and he shipped and I received the item, the check still hadn't arrived. He sent me a PM in October the envelope was finally delivered. I wish I still had the tracking number, it was a sad sight.
 
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Caymanboy said:
What's worse-----.
UPS subcontracts out to USPS.
:poop:
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Both UPS and Fedex do that. For UPS, it's called "Surepost." For Fedex, it's called "SmartPost." Basically, the carriers get the packages to one of their final distribution facilities where they are sorted by zip code. But, instead of the carrier (via their contract delivery vans) taking them that final distance (ie. to the end resident), USPS comes and gets the pallets of packages, since, in essence, they have the "final delivery" network to those end residents. This is only for their "Ground" service. The carriers handle the "Air" delivery services themselves.

I know. I used to work at one of those Fedex Ground distribution facilities on the "Smart Post" team. We would handle most items of the proper dimensions and weights that USPS could handle. By the end of the day, we'd have like 40 different pallets ready for USPS to pick up.
 
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Everyone feel better now that you have vented?
Here's the issue. People. Especially government union protected people. They suck.
Never underestimate the ability of humans to fuck up a quality system when there's no repercussions to poor performance.
Not a damned thing can be done about it. Our elected government representatives are getting large amounts of taxpayers money kicked back to them to protect them. Ask any of the elected why we are giving taxpayers money to the Post office and you will get multiple excuses from national security to they're doing a great job.
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Everyone feel better now that you have vented?
Here's the issue. People. Especially government union protected people. They suck.
Never underestimate the ability of humans to fuck up a quality system when there's no repercussions to poor performance.
Not a damned thing can be done about it. Our elected government representatives are getting large amounts of taxpayers money kicked back to them to protect them. Ask any of the elected why we are giving taxpayers money to the Post office and you will get multiple excuses from national security to they're doing a great job.
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(Enter sarcasm mode)
National security?

Have you looked at the nationality of most of our postal workers?
I haven't seen anyone in the last few years that doesn't have a heavy accent. I have seen plenty that speak almost zero English.
 
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wvfarrier said:
Around here Fedex is worse that usps. Our delivery guys like to mark packages "delivered" and then not deliver them for a other 4 or 5 days. Or, they decide to be lazy and mark them "no recipient available" without actually stopping to deliver. I have security cameras abd can verify this bullshit.....complain to cs....no one gives a crap. I have been waiting on 2 new tires for 3 weeks even though I paid for 3 day shipping.
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It's a toss up between those two here. Usps will sign my name to $$packages, leave in mailbox, and also claim that they delivered it into my hands. Postmaster claims that they are short handed and that's just the way it is. I asked him what would happen if I signed a federal document with some one else's name ? Isn't that fraud at a minimum?.............Crickets.

Fudex ground is a lot worse. Driver can't back up a truck and tore up the yard. I called the local office and they didn't return calls, so I called the sheriff and filed a complaint. That got some attention, but 6 months later and still no settlement. UPS is still the best around here.
 
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Mike Casselton said:
(Enter sarcasm mode)
National security?

Have you looked at the nationality of most of our postal workers?
I haven't seen anyone in the last few years that doesn't have a heavy accent. I have seen plenty that speak almost zero English.
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I know a few people that are carriers and since the contract with Amazon they are not happy. One just took early retirement and the others are counting the days. They will be replaced by the new asylum seekers that have anchor babies and work papers.
 
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Mike Casselton said:
(Enter sarcasm mode)
National security?

Have you looked at the nationality of most of our postal workers?
I haven't seen anyone in the last few years that doesn't have a heavy accent. I have seen plenty that speak almost zero English.
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My guess. There is a reason they started favoring hiring "bilingual" people in all these areas. Especially to include the welfare office.
 
#42
As if the shit service is limited to USPS. We live in a world where nobody gives a fuck about their job! They go to earn a paycheck, and fuck anyone that makes their job harder. A portion on this site bitch and complain about their job, YOU are part of the problem.
 
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Bullfrog08 said:
As if the shit service is limited to USPS. We live in a world where nobody gives a fuck about their job! They go to earn a paycheck, and fuck anyone that makes their job harder. A portion on this site bitch and complain about their job, YOU are part of the problem.
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That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with.
 
#44
I thought I would do some more venting - and relay more recent events.

First was as stated above -
A US military clarinet in a 15" x 9" x 5" box (containing the case for the clarinet)
shipped from Arizona (USPS) - Sep 24, 2024
finally admitted "lost" last seen in Tucson Arizona - Dec 2, 2024

Second -
Parts for my military Jeep 2 boxes (including a rear cross member - big part)
shipped from Oregon (FedEx) - Oct 4, 2024
received Southwest Iowa - Oct 8, 2024

Third -
A M1-A1 Rocket Launcher (Bazooka) kit in a big box ;)
shipped from Utah (UPS) - Oct 30, 2024
received Southwest Iowa - Nov 1, 2024


Clarinet, Jeep, and Bazooka? Yes, I have some rather unique items in my rather large collection (10,278 according to my database). :giggle:
 
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Mike Casselton said:
Yeah, I never got all the fishing stuff I ordered from Cabela's in 2003.
Was supposed to be shipped to Diego Garcia.

I hope whoever got it stuck a hook in their finger.
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Made me think of these that used to come in the mail. Spring was fishing/fall was hunting and you could sign up for some one-off's like Auto/ATV catalogs... It was awesome when those came in and I'd spend hours flipping through the pages for months afterwards daydreaming of all the cool shit they had. Damn I miss the old Cabelas.
 
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BPS (the KMart of outdoor stores) bought them and immediately lowered the quality of the Cabela's house branded items.

Only Academy has cheaper, shittier shit.

And yeah, I miss the catalogs too.
 
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Sgtsideways said:
It's a toss up between those two here. Usps will sign my name to $$packages, leave in mailbox, and also claim that they delivered it into my hands. Postmaster claims that they are short handed and that's just the way it is. I asked him what would happen if I signed a federal document with some one else's name ? Isn't that fraud at a minimum?.............Crickets.

Fudex ground is a lot worse. Driver can't back up a truck and tore up the yard. I called the local office and they didn't return calls, so I called the sheriff and filed a complaint. That got some attention, but 6 months later and still no settlement. UPS is still the best around here.
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I have cameras and text & email notifications on my mail box and package delivery bin.
 
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